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Notre Dame Loses - who is the #1 seed now? (Merged thread)

'nuff sed said:
Now isn't this kinda stuff a whole lot more fun/interesting than one or two undefeated's running the table.

Tournament starts in Round 1 this year instead of Round 3 or 4. And some of these conf tournaments are gonna be great watches.

The Cream, not Creme, will come to the top.

Game on.
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No! Dynasty beats parity. The universe is temporarily out of balance but, hopefully, will right itself soon.
 
jaydee602 said:
Charlie Creme just tweeted: "Here is the update at the top. #1’s Baylor, Louisville, Oregon, UConn. #2’s ND, Miss St, Stanford, Marquette. Just like that, UConn is back on the 1-line thanks to Miami. "
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It’s all silliness until the season is over.
 
Just watched the end of ND-Miami replay. The timeout at the 19.5 sec mark of last quarter, the ND huddle with some kind of confusion going on, unlike a Muffet team. When play was to resume, ND had an "unofficial" substitution player on court, refs had to bring Mabrey back on court.
 
Maine fan said:
Always good to see ND go down. Looking at the box, it appears that they had their shooting woes that our women have been trying to deal with.

Right now, I'm not really concerned about tourney seed. Would really like to see more consistent play, that we saw last night. They looked like the players we know they are. Just continue to focus and play UConn BBall. The rest will come, regardless of seed.
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What does this win say about Miami? Are they a sleeper team, just now beginning to peak?
 
geewago said:
Charlie Creme is so smart. Every time a team loses he says, "oops I need to change my mind".

I've often said, a third grader could do his job just as efficiently. Just look at the polls on Tuesday morning and go with top 4 as #1 seeds 5 through 8 as #2 seeds, so on and so on.
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While I hesitate to defend Crème, he is one of the only one who follows women's basketball. At least his assessments create PR for the sport. We need as much as we can get.
 
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I agree it feels good, almost, that ND lost. However along with that joy goes the realization the ND team Uconn seriously defeated wasn't the ND we all knew, which makes that a downer.

Also, as to parity: Much Much too early to assign that title to this year. It appears to not be so much parity of high-level teams competing at the highest of levels--it seems to be teams have some bad games when their personnel would suggest they are very highly ranked.
To me Parity occurs when top teams playing at the very highest of levels compete head to head for superiority. That is the standard that Uconn had heaped upon those that choose to play Women's basketball.
 
Notre Dame has a lot of talent. One begins to wonder how they lose with all of that talent?
 
UCBaller2012 said:
He put out an article today with the following:

Chicago - Baylor, Marquette
Albany - UConn, MSST
Portland - Oregon, ND
Greensboro - Lousiville, Stanford

UConn to Albany is just over 2 hours. ND to Chicago is an hour and a half!! There is no way they are not going to put ND in Chicago - it would be crazy if they didn't.
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I would agree that's unlikely. Though putting Marquette, which is even closer to CHIC, does partially mitigate.
 
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The NCAA will put the big draws close to home in order to fill the seats. ND needs to be near ND. UConn in the East. SC near SC etc. It puts fannies in the seats and dollars in the NCAA. If any of the teams that draw are shipped elsewhere fans wont show up like they would and the NCAA will loose money. Just think many UConn fans have already purchased their Regional tickets for NY. If UConn was shipped out west next year UConn fans would not purchase their tickets in advance.
 
Monday nite is huge for seeding as well as for us to see if UConn is a true one seed and out of their slump. Im expecting alot of energy from our girls. This game will tell us alot about where UConn is as a team heading to the NCAA tournament
 
Tonyc said:
The NCAA will put the big draws close to home in order to fill the seats. ND needs to be near ND. UConn in the East. SC near SC etc. It puts fannies in the seats and dollars in the NCAA. If any of the teams that draw are shipped elsewhere fans wont show up like they would and the NCAA will loose money. Just think many UConn fans have already purchased their Regional tickets for NY. If UConn was shipped out west next year UConn fans would not purchase their tickets in advance.
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Considering next year's regionals are in Dallas, Fort Wayne, Greenville, and Portland.... I'd doubt many UConn fans would be purchasing tickets far in advance regardless of what the Ncaa does this season.
 
The bottom line is UConn will be a 1 or 2 seed, most likely in Albany. ND is facing the same problem for their projected region.

To get to the final 4, you have to win 4 games in your region. 2 more wins and its a National Championship. The rest is all noise.
 
huskeynut said:
The bottom line is UConn will be a 1 or 2 seed, most likely in Albany. ND is facing the same problem for their projected region.

To get to the final 4, you have to win 4 games in your region. 2 more wins and its a National Championship. The rest is all noise.
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Tell that to the UConn team that won in 2013.
 
bballnut90 said:
ND has possibly the worst depth in the countey. They dont rely on anyone off the bench and if a starter isnt "on" there isnt a suitable backup to help. Catch Arike on an off shooting night and pound the boards and you can win.
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Keep ND out of transition and you can win. ND is unstoppable in transition but, similar to many teams, can get bogged down in the half court. Spacing can be a problem for ND. Hof and Mompremier hardly left the lane on defense last night. Turner moved out to the arc and her defender wasn't within 10 feet of her. Maybe Hof stepped out a foot or 2 when guarding Shepard but even that was unnecessary as Shepard rarely shoots even mid-range jumpers. Shepard made 26 three-pointers as a soph at Nebraska but has yet to make one at ND.
 
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UConnCat said:
Keep ND out of transition and you can win. ND is unstoppable in transition but, similar to many teams, can get bogged down in the half court. Spacing can be a problem for ND. Hof and Mompremier hardly left the lane on defense last night. Turner moved out to the arc and her defender wasn't within 10 feet of her. Maybe Hof stepped out a foot or 2 when guarding Shepard but even that was unnecessary as Shepard rarely shoots even mid-range jumpers. Shepard made 26 three-pointers as a soph at Nebraska but has yet to make one at ND.
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Spot on! Horrible half court team that often takes bad shots.
 
Bigpetunia said:
Like it or not (I like it), the era of parity in WBB has finally arrived. Sure, in individual seasons, like in every sport, one team or another will exhibit relative dominance over the rest of the pack, but the dynasty dynamic that has characterized the women’s game for so long (with the UConn example being the most illustrious), well, that’s almost certainly a thing of the past. While some may bemoan the new reality, the inevitable resultant heightening of fan interest around the country and surrounding so many more programs is a welcome development, at least to me. Upsets will be more the new order of the day...I like that. But, my friends, even though it is increasingly less surprising, doesn’t it feel especially good to see that Notre Dame lost yet again last night?
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The only game I really want them to lose is the next game they play against UConn. Nothing else really matters. :D!
 
veryolddog said:
Notre Dame has a lot of talent. One begins to wonder how they lose with all of that talent?
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being the hunted instead of the hunter requires a lot of intestinal fortitude........................as Geno said after UConn beat ND earlier this season, it's hard to maintain that winning chemistry for a second year even when you have the same or even better players.............
 
Bigpetunia said:
Like it or not (I like it), the era of parity in WBB has finally arrived. Sure, in individual seasons, like in every sport, one team or another will exhibit relative dominance over the rest of the pack, but the dynasty dynamic that has characterized the women’s game for so long (with the UConn example being the most illustrious), well, that’s almost certainly a thing of the past. While some may bemoan the new reality, the inevitable resultant heightening of fan interest around the country and surrounding so many more programs is a welcome development, at least to me. Upsets will be more the new order of the day...I like that. But, my friends, even though it is increasingly less surprising, doesn’t it feel especially good to see that Notre Dame lost yet again last night?
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you are most likely correct but I'm waiting to see UConn's 2020 and 2021 recruiting classes before I go along with your premise 100%..........
 
Bama fan said:
The only game I really want them to lose is the next game they play against UConn. Nothing else really matters. :D!
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Or, they are welcome to lose any NCAA Tournament game preceding that possible UCONN Meeting.
 
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Oldbones said:
Or, they are welcome to lose any NCAA Tournament game preceding that possible UCONN Meeting.
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Yes, I am okay with that. Perhaps I should have put emphasis on the really want them to lose. :)
 
triaddukefan said:
Considering next year's regionals are in Dallas, Fort Wayne, Greenville, and Portland.... I'd doubt many UConn fans would be purchasing tickets far in advance regardless of what the Ncaa does this season.
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Greenville SC is hosting the East Region next year? Really? That's where I live. I am sooooooooooooooooooooo there already!
 
Synonym for "parity" is "equality." What produces "equality" is the really interesting issue. Does parity result from WCBB teams getting better or from UConn getting less better? I believe that the Huskies have better players in total than any other team, including this year. But does that make them the best team? The answer is obvious; they're not the best team this season (and, predictably, not for next when player superiority will not be present). Their two losses were not flukes. On both occasions they were beaten. Why? Because they lacked team chemistry. In the ECU game, they rediscovered the missing ingredient: it doesn't matter if you have the best individuals, it only matters if you have the best team. Should the Huskies return to the form of their last game, no one will beat them. Will they? Stay tuned.
 
oldude said:
ND didn’t have any depth last year, so I am reminded of Geno’s wise comment after UConn’s upset win at ND in December. “Just because you have everyone coming back doesn’t mean you have the same team.”
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They had Koko Nelson as a solid sub who could spot Shepard or Westbeld for 10-15 mpg. But I agree, not the

Thing is, winning in a year when there isnt a clear cut #1 all comes down to getting hot at the right time. ND lost by 33 to Louisville last year and went on to knock off UCONN and Mississippi State to win it all. They're still a v
UConnCat said:
Keep ND out of transition and you can win. ND is unstoppable in transition but, similar to many teams, can get bogged down in the half court. Spacing can be a problem for ND. Hof and Mompremier hardly left the lane on defense last night. Turner moved out to the arc and her defender wasn't within 10 feet of her. Maybe Hof stepped out a foot or 2 when guarding Shepard but even that was unnecessary as Shepard rarely shoots even mid-range jumpers. Shepard made 26 three-pointers as a soph at Nebraska but has yet to make one at ND.
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They badly miss Westbeld. She was a fantastic glue player for ND and brought different elements to the table that Turner doesnt--namely hitting from the high post and executing the high low. Obviously Turner is the stronger player at facevalue, but the spacing issue between Shepard and Turner is still apparent with just a month before the NCAAs start.
 
I think that UCONN would have trouble with Miami also, both the personnel and the style of play. Miami would keep UCONN out of transition and Hof and Mompremier would be a formidable duo in the middle at 6'3" and 6'4". Notre Dame and Miami starters played each other about even, but Mason came off the bench with a great game. Evans did the same sort of thing against UCONN for Louisville.
 
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