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Top Ten Scorers in ND WBB History

When the team you root for is hot, articles, interviews, posts start dropping from everywhere.

Here's one of those on the Top Ten scorers in ND WBB history, as of this moment.
I have a feeling a certain guard on the current team might displace more than a few of the players on this list.

The names at the very top of this list shouldn't surprise anyone, but it does get interesting after that....

 
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Tough loss to NC St just now. Double OT. Zoe Brooks scored 33 — hadn’t realized until this game that Zoe and Hannah were childhood rivals. But you could really see it today.

Also, it looks like Koval has mainly fallen out of the rotation. Is that just today or has it been the case for a while now?
 
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Rebounding, rebounding, rebounding…
And by the slimest of margins too. NC State had an advantage of 2 total rebounds (ND - 49, NC State - 51).

While ND won on the offensive side with 17, NC State did a great job defending their end as they had 42 defensive rebounds to ND's 32. That's a lot of extra opportunities they prevented ND from having.
 
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I hope this is a good wake up call to the players and staff. Our offense is too much ISO. There were so many poor shot attempts by Hannah and Olivia in the first half. Hannah has spurts where she can score 5-8 quickly, but then take 5 shots on 5 possessions. Olivia's fallen in love with taking tough 3's, and her percentages are rounding out after a hot start. Those two are dominating the ball too much.

Westbeld, Citron, and King need to be involved in the offense earlier than the second half. Westbeld in particular they really need to figure out how to incorporate better. The ISO offense doesn't make that easier.

I also think the moment got them too. They've had some rather easy games in the ACC. Hannah, Olivia, and Niele have done tons of interviews. We became the #1 team in the country. Hannah is pressing recently because of the NPOY race. They were at Unrivaled and were treated very kindly over there. They have moments where they play good team ball, but tonight was so much hero ball. And tbh, if Miles didn't have that double dribble I think they would've stole the win.
 
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Tough loss to NC St just now. Double OT. Zoe Brooks scored 33 — hadn’t realized until this game that Zoe and Hannah were childhood rivals. But you could really see it today.

Also, it looks like Koval has mainly fallen out of the rotation. Is that just today or has it been the case for a while now?
Koval is pretty much out of the rotation against good competition. Unless maybe they have a big post like her.
 
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That was a great game. Tough loss for Notre Dame but nothing to worry about. Just poor shot selection and a few mistakes here and there. Notre Dame will see Nc State again in the ACC tournament. ND will be okay.
 
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I watched this whole thing. Very entertaining. Funny how they kept putting the graphic up showing what a poor FT shooting team NC State is, and they just kept making them. James is the real deal and I think she could make a very solid WNBA player, although she’s not the tallest.

I would hate to have to watch this film back if I was one of the ND players or coaches. Seems like Hidalgo and Miles usually have everything going their way, certainly not this time.
 
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That was a great game. Tough loss for Notre Dame but nothing to worry about. Just poor shot selection and a few mistakes here and there. Notre Dame will see Nc State again in the ACC tournament. ND will be okay.
There was some poor shot selection but imo the larger issue was how ND could be called for 21 fouls and NC State only 9? Which impacted who could play and how they could play not to mention 16 more points from free throws.

I hate to complain about refs but then I can't recall this extreme of a difference before.
 

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There was some poor shot selection but imo the larger issue was how ND could be called for 21 fouls and NC State only 9? Which impacted who could play and how they could play not to mention 16 more points from free throws.

I hate to complain about refs but then I can't recall this extreme of a difference before.
When you beat Stanford on Feb. 6 the fouls We’re 20-11 which was close.
 
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There was some poor shot selection but imo the larger issue was how ND could be called for 21 fouls and NC State only 9? Which impacted who could play and how they could play not to mention 16 more points from free throws.

I hate to complain about refs but then I can't recall this extreme of a difference before.
In Duke's loss to Louisville on Thursday.fouls were 22 (Duke) vs 11 (Louisville), free throws were 25 (L made 22) vs 4 (D made 4).
I"I'll have to look to see who the refs were......
 
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A few thoughts about the NC State loss:

We cannot stop talented bigs with Maddy Westbeld. I wonder what NI is going to do.

That was one clutch shot by Sonia. The offense needs to revolve more around her.

Hannah is in an outside shootng slump at the same time she slumped last year. NI has to make a decision whether to let her keep trying to shoot her way out of it.

OM is too much "show time" oriented. NI needs to put the breaks on that.

I've said before that NI needs to work the refs more. Wes Moore did and got rewarded.

If NC State can play like that every game they can beat anybody. Or, their big had a career game because we play a player at the 5 who can't defend a quality big. We'll see.

We have a big hole defensively. I hope it gets filled.
 
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There was some poor shot selection but imo the larger issue was how ND could be called for 21 fouls and NC State only 9? Which impacted who could play and how they could play not to mention 16 more points from free throws.

I hate to complain about refs but then I can't recall this extreme of a difference before.
To be fair State shot 6 free throws in the final minute of regulation when ND was fouling on purpose and 6 more in the final minute of the 2nd over time when ND was down by multiple possessions and fouled. Thats 12 of the 26 attempts. Take those purposeful fouls away and it’s 14 to 10 on attempts.

State also leads the nation in fewest fouls. It’s part of Wes’s philosophy - they don’t press up on teams usually, typically play drop coverage, and he’s often quoted as saying they preach to let the other team make or miss a tough shot rather than give them 2 free throws.

Being at the game there was obviously some missed calls. In my red tinted glasses HH was very handsy and aggressive and yet went into the 4th quarter with 1 foul. Azaiah James left the game after knocking heads with king when king reached in for a steal that led to a lay up without a foul call. I feel like both coaches had things they could pick out they would want called the other way at times. But that’s pretty typical for every game.

At times I thought ND settled for a contested 3 they could have got at any point. I thought they should have tried to feature Citron and King more. Miles and HH are fantastic, but a few times it just looked like HH was trying to do too much. Kings quickness against Tilda could have been exploited more IMO.

It was a high level game in a raucous atmosphere and at the end of the day, if Olivia Miles doesn’t double dribble on a semi fast break up 2 with under a minute in over time, the Irish very likely win the game.
 
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There was some poor shot selection but imo the larger issue was how ND could be called for 21 fouls and NC State only 9? Which impacted who could play and how they could play not to mention 16 more points from free throws.

I hate to complain about refs but then I can't recall this extreme of a difference before.
ND has a large portion of their fouls at the end of regulation and in the second OT. Aside from that the free throws weren't that uneven. Hannah gets away with a ton of contact playing defense, if those were all called she would have played way less. The fouls were hardly the issue.

The issue was coaching, gameplan, offense, whatever.. things that are in ND's control. For as bad as we played, we still could've won. That's promising. It is discouraging seeing Koval get 4 minutes in a game where the other freshman bug had a field day inside. We need her presence down low against teams with a good center. We let their young big look like an AA. Imagine when we actually face an AA center. I hope we don't matchup with Beers before the FF.
 

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ND has a large portion of their fouls at the end of regulation and in the second OT. Aside from that the free throws weren't that uneven. Hannah gets away with a ton of contact playing defense, if those were all called she would have played way less. The fouls were hardly the issue.

The issue was coaching, gameplan, offense, whatever.. things that are in ND's control. For as bad as we played, we still could've won. That's promising. It is discouraging seeing Koval get 4 minutes in a game where the other freshman bug had a field day inside. We need her presence down low against teams with a good center. We let their young big look like an AA. Imagine when we actually face an AA center. I hope we don't matchup with Beers before the FF.
ND was gassed late in regulation and in the OTs. Some fouls were due to fatigue
 

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