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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Undefeated Miami playing in front of maybe 30k and people trash our attendance.
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AND the 1987 Canes team was there today for a ceremony commenting their season. Crazy how that used to be the Only show in town and now.... Not so much
 
Syracuse is far from a bad team. Tough D, good Oline play and a gritty QB. I hope we look like them next year.
 
BC is always going to out recruit us. They offer a P5 conference schedule and have decades of tradition that we cannot match. A.J. Dillon is never going to pick us over BC.

Where we can win is by having a better coach. BC has to develop most of their talent just like us. I'm not worried about losing recruiting battles over 3 and sometimes 4 star recruits to BC. The coaching is far more important. Not to knock HCRE, but Brown or Moorhead would be better and give us a real shot at beating BC.
 
NE Football said:
BC is always going to out recruit us. They offer a P5 conference schedule and have decades of tradition that we cannot match. A.J. Dillon is never going to pick us over BC.

Where we can win is by having a better coach. BC has to develop most of their talent just like us. I'm not worried about losing recruiting battles over 3 and sometimes 4 star recruits to BC. The coaching is far more important. Not to knock HCRE, but Brown or Moorhead would be better and give us a real shot at beating BC.
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Not if we get invited into the Big Ten. Believe it or not, UMD and Rutgers are working on rivalry trophy. As we all know, UConn would fit in perfectly into the Big Ten's eastern seacoast expansion.

We can name our Rutgers game trophy in honor of Diaco: The Big Apple Conflict. We also have plenty of tradition, just need to appreciate it as it's own. Our tradition has been Ivies, Little Ivies, the Yankee Conference, the Big East and now the AAC so far.
 
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NE Football said:
BC is always going to out recruit us. They offer a P5 conference schedule and have decades of tradition that we cannot match. A.J. Dillon is never going to pick us over BC.

Where we can win is by having a better coach. BC has to develop most of their talent just like us. I'm not worried about losing recruiting battles over 3 and sometimes 4 star recruits to BC. The coaching is far more important. Not to knock HCRE, but Brown or Moorhead would be better and give us a real shot at beating BC.
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Edsall is just as good as those guys would be when supported by the right coordinators. Crocker seems to be getting his guys together and Lashlee is proving to be a Moorhead type OC. For now, it isn’t a reasonable concern to have. This staff is 100% capable of beating BC consistently if they stay together.

Until Lashlee leaves, we need not worry about coaching. He is a rare find and we need to find a way to keep him here for as long as possible.
 
Butch said:
Not if we get invited into the Big Ten. Believe it or not, UMD and Rutgers are working on rivalry trophy. As we all know, UConn would fit in perfectly into the Big Ten's eastern seacoast expansion.

We can name our Rutgers game trophy in honor of Diaco: The Big Apple Conflict. We also have plenty of tradition, just need to appreciate it as it's own. Our tradition has been Ivies, Little Ivies, the Yankee Conference, the Big East and now the AAC so far.
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The whole Power 5 thing is the key. I have always felt that there is no reason Connecticut can't be at the level that we have seen Syracuse, BC, or any other Northeastern team that has had a good run in the past. It can't be done under this current situation though. You have to be able to offer players the chance to be on a bigger stage when you are trying to build up a program. We can't do that, and we are also at a disadvantage compared to the Central and South Floridas of the world, who can find enough players in their area that are maybe just shy of being offered by the big programs in Florida but end up staying in state. It's just a bad position to be in.
 
Butch said:
Not if we get invited into the Big Ten. Believe it or not, UMD and Rutgers are working on rivalry trophy. As we all know, UConn would fit in perfectly into the Big Ten's eastern seacoast expansion.

We can name our Rutgers game trophy in honor of Diaco: The Big Apple Conflict. We also have plenty of tradition, just need to appreciate it as it's own. Our tradition has been Ivies, Little Ivies, the Yankee Conference, the Big East and now the AAC so far.
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I still cannot figure out why the Big doesn't jump on solidifying it's NE presence and block the ACC. We are last good state flagship for quality expansion and BIG membership is a self fulfilling prophecy in terms of generating requisite levels of market interest. With Rutgers, Penn State, Connecticut and Maryland they have a strong presence in the Northeast with natural rivalry potential.
 
BlueDogs said:
I still cannot figure out why the Big doesn't jump on solidifying it's NE presence and block the ACC. We are last good state flagship for quality expansion and BIG membership is a self fulfilling prophecy in terms of generating requisite levels of market interest. With Rutgers, Penn State, Connecticut and Maryland they have a strong presence in the Northeast with natural rivalry potential.
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Gotta be easy on the Joe Schmoes. Can you imagine the meltdowns that would have happened if we were added already? We have to be patient, keep developing the program and pay dues.
 
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The B1G has what they want in the NE with PSU and RU. They are waiting for the Big 12 to break up to add teams 15 & 16. OU or Texas and KU are their prime targets. They need icon programs to bring in the revenue so no current member takes a cut in payout. OU vs Nebraska in football and KU vs Indiana in hoops are marquee tv draws.

We need to focus on winning the AAC every year. The more we talk about not being in a P5 conference the more it hurts recruiting.
 
NE Football said:
The B1G has what they want in the NE with PSU and RU. They are waiting for the Big 12 to break up to add teams 15 & 16. OU or Texas and KU are their prime targets. They need icon programs to bring in the revenue so no current member takes a cut in payout. OU vs Nebraska in football and KU vs Indiana in hoops are marquee tv draws.

We need to focus on winning the AAC every year. The more we talk about not being in a P5 conference the more it hurts recruiting.
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You know the Big Ten is still focused on eastward expansion, correct?

If you think they're going to get Texas, keep dreaming. UT is now bigger and more powerful than every school in the Big Ten. The Pac-12 is the conference who would bend over for UT.
 
The B1G is not focused on any expansion right now, least of all in the northeast.
 
NE Football said:
The B1G is not focused on any expansion right now, least of all in the northeast.
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Media market and HHI analysis would dictate otherwise. There are other growing regions as population shifts occur but the Northeast corridor remains the golden goose and ground zero for media dominance. I-95 from DC to Boston is a goldmine if the B1G can generate enough regional presence. Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and West Vigina don't cut it and Texas isn't moving and diluting its market dominance. They could literally bring in UMass and their affiliation with B1G would be a self fulfilling prophecy within 5 years. They would suck the life out of BC and likely Syracuse from a recruiting perspective. If Rutgers is pulling $$ into the conference, they get even more leveraging effect by adding UConn by driving interest in a contiguous expanded market.

As blasphemous as it sounds, the quality of football program is secondary to quality and type of school and market dynamics.
 
NE Football said:
The B1G is not focused on any expansion right now, least of all in the northeast.
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And you know this how? You don't.

Just trust me when I say we are on their radar. I am not saying it blindly.
 
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Butch said:
And you know this how? You don't.

Just trust me when I say we are on their radar. I am not saying it blindly.
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Are you saying is wistfully? Unless you are part of the super secret B1G search committee, you are likely basing it on second hand/hearsay information.

The demographics and HHI numbers mean a lot less than they did 5 years ago. The paradigm has shifted. As is well discussed on the conference realignment board, cord cutting is real. I did it last month. I no longer am forced to pay for the B1G network, the SEC Network or the ACC Network. I still get Watch ESPN and can see any game I want. The CBSSN games, I go to a bar to watch if I really want to. I also did the 7 day free trial one week with Hulu Plus for 1 game I wanted to see.

Win the conference 5 out of the next 7 years and win every bowl game/OOC game against a P5 opponent and things might happen. When ND makes its move to a conference for FB when it is shut out of the CFB with 1 loss multiple times over the next few years, that will be Uconn's time. But only if they are pereceived as being a strong, competitive add.
 
Nobody is expanding. The numbers are going to make zero sense for expansion going forward.

Notre Dame is also not getting shut out of the playoffs with one loss multiple times. They aren’t getting shut out of the playoffs with one loss once.
 
whaler11 said:
Nobody is expanding. The numbers are going to make zero sense for expansion going forward.

Notre Dame is also not getting shut out of the playoffs with one loss multiple times. They aren’t getting shut out of the playoffs with one loss once.
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They are likely going to be shut out this year too. The loser of the SEC CG will still be in with one loss UGA or Bama (opposite divisions), either PSU or WI is in from the B1G (maybe both because again they are opposite divisions) and the fourth will come down to the winner of the Big 12 (possible undefeated team) or the ACC (1 loss team). ND's ACC wins will mean nothing because they did not play Clemson, Lville or VaTech. ND has no shot to move up after the season ends because they do not have the championship game to get a vital win against a strong opponent. If they sit anywhere below #6 going into championship week, they have no chance of getting in this year. At some point, ND will see the value of the championship game as the path to the CFP.
 
06029 said:
They are likely going to be shut out this year too. The loser of the SEC CG will still be in with one loss UGA or Bama (opposite divisions), either PSU or WI is in from the B1G (maybe both because again they are opposite divisions) and the fourth will come down to the winner of the Big 12 (possible undefeated team) or the ACC (1 loss team). ND's ACC wins will mean nothing because they did not play Clemson, Lville or VaTech. ND has no shot to move up after the season ends because they do not have the championship game to get a vital win against a strong opponent. If they sit anywhere below #6 going into championship week, they have no chance of getting in this year. At some point, ND will see the value of the championship game as the path to the CFP.
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Okey dokey.
 
If ND wins out they have a very good chance to make the final four. There are still a lot of games to be played but I'll wager there in if they go 11-1.
 
whaler11 said:
Okey dokey.
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I'm with you.

It's not about whether Notre Dame SHOULD get shut out of the playoffs with one loss. It's about whether they WILL get shut out. And they won't. Unfortunately, I'll believe it when I see it...
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I'm with you.

It's not about whether Notre Dame SHOULD get shut out of the playoffs with one loss. It's about whether they WILL get shut out. And they won't. Unfortunately, I'll believe it when I see it...
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They won’t be left out with one loss because if they somehow miraculously go 11-1 there aren’t going to be three undefeateds and if there were the only 1 loss team that would have an argument is Georgia.

But when you loses matters and it would be back to back Alabama/Georgia games? Yeah right.

They aren’t winning the last five anyway - NCSU/@ Miami/@Stanford plus Wake and Navy is no picnic.
 
06029 said:
Are you saying is wistfully? Unless you are part of the super secret B1G search committee, you are likely basing it on second hand/hearsay information.

The demographics and HHI numbers mean a lot less than they did 5 years ago. The paradigm has shifted. As is well discussed on the conference realignment board, cord cutting is real. I did it last month. I no longer am forced to pay for the B1G network, the SEC Network or the ACC Network. I still get Watch ESPN and can see any game I want. The CBSSN games, I go to a bar to watch if I really want to. I also did the 7 day free trial one week with Hulu Plus for 1 game I wanted to see.

Win the conference 5 out of the next 7 years and win every bowl game/OOC game against a P5 opponent and things might happen. When ND makes its move to a conference for FB when it is shut out of the CFB with 1 loss multiple times over the next few years, that will be Uconn's time. But only if they are pereceived as being a strong, competitive add.
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No, I am saying it with solid proof. But can't go into that. The Big Ten will eventually expand again. They know there's way more land to take up here. VA and CT are definitely of interest to the Big Ten.
 
B1G is looking for icon programs/national brands. Each new addition has to bring in 40 million in new TV money just to break even. Believe me, we are not on their radar. If the B1G were actually interested in another NE team it would be BC and the Boston market they bring with them. It would still be very difficult for the Boston market to bring in an additional 40 million per year in revenue. The revenue is just not there.

I think the B1G will get OU, but team #16 will not be a slam dunk choice.

Let's win the AAC and focus on getting the G5 champion in the playoffs. It's a great niche for us to develop.
 
Notre Dame should be shut out of the football playoffs. They should be forced to join a conference full time. Maybe this will be the leverage needed.
 
06029 said:
They are likely going to be shut out this year too. The loser of the SEC CG will still be in with one loss UGA or Bama (opposite divisions), either PSU or WI is in from the B1G (maybe both because again they are opposite divisions) and the fourth will come down to the winner of the Big 12 (possible undefeated team) or the ACC (1 loss team). ND's ACC wins will mean nothing because they did not play Clemson, Lville or VaTech. ND has no shot to move up after the season ends because they do not have the championship game to get a vital win against a strong opponent. If they sit anywhere below #6 going into championship week, they have no chance of getting in this year. At some point, ND will see the value of the championship game as the path to the CFP.
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That was quick. ND is #3 already. I'm not a huge ND fan but I will admit that they are the only team in the nation that doesn't need to be in a conference and still make the playoff. Speaking of conference championship games let me give you a nightmare scenario for the Big 10. Ohio St. loses one of their remaining conference games but because they beat Penn St. they still go to the conference championship. OSU beats an undefeated Wisconsin team in the conference championship game and the Big 10 gets shut out of the final four.
 
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