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[freescooter]

Were we not previously hearing how some B12 schools are already sick of traveling to WVU? Really makes one wonder how seriously they're considering these schools like UCF, USF and now SDSU. And what does CSU have to offer besides very recent success? Recruiting? Markets?

marijuana is legal in Colorado. beyond that?

 

[SubbaBub]

No problem at all, 25. I just can't do emoticons, if that leads to the occaisional misunderstanding dem's the breaks. I think one-liners are funnier when done with a straight face.

Dry humor is the best humor.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 18m
RT @ScottDochterman: MSU AD Mark Hollis on more B1G expansion: "In my opinion, no. We're settled at the number we have."

 

[husky91]

Yep, stuck in the AAC. I agree with the concept of going Indy in fball (if we even keep fball) and join the big east again.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken 18m
RT @ScottDochterman: MSU AD Mark Hollis on more B1G expansion: "In my opinion, no. We're settled at the number we have."

 

[freescooter]

Yep, stuck in the AAC. I agree with the concept of going Indy in fball (if we even keep fball) and join the big east again.

Honestly, the cluelessness of some of our "fans" is just incredible. Beyond belief really.

 

[Hoophound]

We can't keep listening to ADs, they don't know. If we are going to the B1G, only the presidents and Delany know it. President Herbst might not know, because she doesn't need to at this point. Delany knows she'd accept. Any leak that UConn to the B10 is imminent will create an emergency meeting of ACC presidents to approve an invite. If we get invited anywhere, it will be a surprise.

 

[HuskyJ]

MH 3 ‏@MH 3 1h
But what happens when B12 stops getting P5 OOC games and those matter the most? Expansion is imminent.


He may have hit on something here. With all the Out Of Conference against In Conference teams talk online today, what does a 10 team 9 game round robin conference do for Strength of Schedule games when the other P5’s don’t need to play you? Expansion by 4 would help us nicely, by 2 and we aren’t one of them, a total disaster.

 

[Point6]

Honestly, the cluelessness of some of our "fans" is just incredible. Beyond belief really.

OK, I have one that might be just as dumb. What if we could get NDs deal in the ACC? ACC in all sports like ND except FB. Assuming ACC won't add us for FB until ND joins (if ever), they agree to give us at least 5 FB games to help with our scheduling. This gives ACC (1) an even number of hoops/Olympic teams, (2) the best basketball school in the nation and (3) puts us on hold to block B1G expansion until ND (or another #15) joins in FB. I doubt we could get the same bowl package as ND so we would have to sacrifice some bowl access while we wait or make our own deals.

Be kind.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Honestly, the cluelessness of some of our "fans" is just incredible. Beyond belief really.

Agreed. The inability of fans to see that $5MM a year is a bigger number than $2MM a year blows my mind.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

MH 3 ‏@MH 3 1h
But what happens when B12 stops getting P5 OOC games and those matter the most? Expansion is imminent.


He may have hit on something here. With all the Out Of Conference against In Conference teams talk online today, what does a 10 team 9 game round robin conference do for Strength of Schedule games when the other P5’s don’t need to play you? Expansion by 4 would help us nicely, by 2 and we aren’t one of them, a total disaster.

The only way computer models will be able to determine which leagues are the best, and therefore which leagues provide their teams with the best SOS, is for league teams to beat teams from other leagues in OOC games. That is why the ACC and SEC didn't go to a 9 game schedule.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

We should have a poll question posted: Which idea is more bat- crazy- 1) Expanding the Rent when there is no demand 2) Going independent in Football

 

[noeynox]

We should have a poll question posted: Which idea is more bat- crazy- 1) Expanding the Rent when there is no demand 2) Going independent in Football

Totally Different In That Expanding The Rent Shows Your Trying In Football. Going Independent To Me Shows Your Ready To Bail On Football, Unless Fox Throws Us A Sweetheart Deal In Football.

 

[Dooley]

Oh for the love of God, not this again.

 

[SubbaBub]

OK, I have one that might be just as dumb. What if we could get NDs deal in the ACC? ACC in all sports like ND except FB. Assuming ACC won't add us for FB until ND joins (if ever), they agree to give us at least 5 FB games to help with our scheduling. This gives ACC (1) an even number of hoops/Olympic teams, (2) the best basketball school in the nation and (3) puts us on hold to block B1G expansion until ND (or another #15) joins in FB. I doubt we could get the same bowl package as ND so we would have to sacrifice some bowl access while we wait or make our own deals.

Be kind.

Question: How many P5 teams would be willing to play a game against ND in November? How about away games?

Answer: Nearly all of them

Now substitute UConn for ND.

Answer: Almost none.

This is why Uconn can't go independent in FB as we'd be playing a less than AAC quality schedule.

 

[Point6]

Swafford said in the past few days that they were still considering whether BYU and/or Army as independents would be considered P5 for purposes of the P5 scheduling requirement that will apply to ACC teams. I assume games vs. AAC will not be counted towards the P5. UND is already counted as one of the P65. Just saying, there may be arrangements to be made that keep us in the top echelon if it comes to that.

 

[tzznandrew]

We should have a poll question posted: Which idea is more bat- crazy- 1) Expanding the Rent when there is no demand 2) Going independent in Football

I guess I'm bat-shit crazy. Expand the stadium. Do it. It takes away another criticism people have when discussing UConn's inclusion. Rutgers and Cincy have done it (although Cincy had more demand).

 

[Kolumbo]

No timeframe, just makes the absolute most sense to lock up NYC and DC. The B1G would add a basketball power in UCONN and in UVA they get another top flight school while simultaneously destabilizing the ACC.

That would also be a win for Cinci since it would be called to back-fill UVA. Or could it be ODU?

 

[Dooley]

Going Independent in football would be imposing a death penalty on ourselves. Warde is having a difficult time as it is with OOC scheduling and we are still playing under the old scheduling rules. Once it changes, we will go back to Yankee Conference schedules.

Honestly, is anyone really worried about basketball? We just won a friggin' NC as a member of the AAC. We can schedule OOC opponents at the snap of a finger. Moving from the AAC to the Big East would give us an additional $3M/yr. Sure. But it also permenantly locks out of the P5 model and an additional $15-30M/yr. And for what? So we can schedule almighty Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul types??? Ridiculous.

 

[Point6]

Question: How many P5 teams would be willing to play a game against ND in November? How about away games?

Answer: Nearly all of them

Now substitute UConn for ND.

Answer: Almost none.

This is why Uconn can't go independent in FB as we'd be playing a less than AAC quality schedule.

I hear you but if we got 5 games against ACC, we would have more P5 games in a season than we do now. We could maybe score one more P5 game and back fill with AAC, MWC, BYU, Army we might have a better schedule. Of course its all a strawman because I recognize the ACC has not offered us that deal. Nothing to see here.

 

[djct1999]

Agreed. The inability of fans to see that $5MM a year is a bigger number than $2MM a year blows my mind.

What happens when Providence blocks us from coming back to the Big East because they want to remain New Englands team for that conference? Then what? The A-10?

 

[freescooter]

Question: How many P5 teams would be willing to play a game against ND in November? How about away games?

Answer: Nearly all of them

Now substitute UConn for ND.

Answer: Almost none.

This is why Uconn can't go independent in FB as we'd be playing a less than AAC quality schedule.

Exactly! I htink most people would agree that BYU at this point is considered a higher 'get' than UConn. Here's BYU's November schedule: @Middle Tenn, UNLV, Savannah State, @Cal. Ours would be lucky to be that good. Our current schedule, with UCF and Cincy in November is superior.

 

[Husky25]

We should have a poll question posted: Which idea is more bat- crazy- 1) Expanding the Rent when there is no demand 2) Going independent in Football

#2, by process of elimination, because expanding Rentschler Field is not exactly BSC.

 

[husky91]

Exactly, if we don't land in a P5 league then to me I would kill fball or return to FCS, what is really the point.

I guess the question is how long do we wait for a date to the prom or that phone call??

Agreed. The inability of fans to see that $5MM a year is a bigger number than $2MM a year blows my mind.

 

[SubbaBub]

Exactly! I htink most people would agree that BYU at this point is considered a higher 'get' than UConn. Here's BYU's November schedule: @Middle Tenn, UNLV, Savannah State, @Cal. Ours would be lucky to be that good. Our current schedule, with UCF and Cincy in November is superior.

I also think people a deluding themselves in thinking there is a future in a non-FB league if we drop FB? The AAC would be out and then where. The BE isn't taking us. It's A-10 or MAC and really what's the point then?

We can't turn back time, we are a FB playing school and need to start acting like it.

 

[Kolumbo]

I also think people a deluding themselves in thinking there is a future in a non-FB league if we drop FB? The AAC would be out and then where. The BE isn't taking us. It's A-10 or MAC and really what's the point then?

We can't turn back time, we are a FB playing school and need to start acting like it.

Just imagine where UCONN would be if it hadn't made the jump to FBS when it did. UCONN is in a much better place than it would have been. Thankfully.

 

[freescooter]

I also think people a deluding themselves in thinking there is a future in a non-FB league if we drop FB? The AAC would be out and then where. The BE isn't taking us. It's A-10 or MAC and really what's the point then?

We can't turn back time, we are a FB playing school and need to start acting like it.

Right. And why pray tell would we even want to go back to the Big East? It is not the Big East of old. It is just a collection of mid-sized urban schools of varying levels of commitment.

 

[CL82]

I also think people a deluding themselves in thinking there is a future in a non-FB league if we drop FB? The AAC would be out and then where. The BE isn't taking us. It's A-10 or MAC and really what's the point then?

We can't turn back time, we are a FB playing school and need to start acting like it.

The BE would take us in heartbeat if we dropped FB. It makes no sense for us but they would do it in a nano second.

 

[upstater]

Eventually all these non P5 conferences are going to fall off the wayside and be unable to compete. It's going to happen. I'm talking about basketball. Joining the BE doesn't save the program.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

The BE would take us in heartbeadropped FB. It makes no sense for us but they would do it in a nano second.

I disagree ,they don't want to compete with a state flag ship much larger in size than their model. They hated us for our co-opting of their Casa.
They would take us only if it meant their survival. See ACC takes Louisville.
Their preference is UConn dead, same as our Former ACC brethren.
They actually thought we were and have remained extremely silent since the NC.
I have no use for them or our former brethren in the ACC.
We have few options at this time .
Actually the best is to pursue the course were on in the AAC
Improve our football ,continue BB dominance,and get some of our lacking metrics up to standard. If we fail at least we went down swinging. If we succeeed we will enter a P5 conference as a competitor.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Eventually all these non P5 conferences are going to fall off the wayside and be unable to compete. It's going to happen. I'm talking about basketball. Joining the BE doesn't save the program.

But staying in the AAC does?

If UConn wants more money now, UConn should join the Big East and go football independent.

If UConn wants to protect its basketball program long-term in case the Big 10 or ACC don't invite UConn, UConn should join the Big East and go football independent.

If UConn wants to encourage the ACC and Big 10 to make a move, UConn should join the Big East and go football independent.

If UConn wants a TV partner that will support it, UConn should join the Big East and go football independent.

The only rational reason to stay in the current league is the old Big East exit fee payouts, and those will end in just a few years. Joining the Big East is so overwhelmingly obvious to anyone who thinks about the strategic implications, or can add, that my biggest concern is that UConn has already asked to join and been turned down.