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Vowelguy said:
But their total viewers (6.9M) is still 8th.
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Here is the explanation for BC's TV ratings. Remember, TV ratings are driven by the school itself, the opponent, the time slot, time slot competition, and the broadcast network.

BC had 4 games that were rated and 8 games that were not. The ones not rated were on the ACCN, SECN, CW, and ACCNX (streaming). Here are the 4 games:

9/2 Labor Day at 7:30 PM @FSU on ESPN at 7:30 PM. This is the prime Labor Day college football time slot against a popular opponent on one of the top networks, ESPN. Viewers = 4.44 million.

10/17 Thursday night at Virginia Tech on ESPN at 7 PM. The prime college football game on Thursday night against a name opponent on ESPN. But, half of the game was up against an NFL game. Viewers = 712k.

10/25 Friday night vs Louisville on ESPN2 at 7:30 PM. Friday night marquee game against a solid opponent with limited football competition, but on ESPN2. Viewers = 879k.

11/16 Saturday @SMU on ESPN at 3:30 PM. Prime ESPN TV slot, but against stiff competition and this was the second lowest rated game in the slot by a large amount. Viewers = 957k.

So, 64% of BC viewers in 2024 came on the Labor Day prime time game against FSU.

With the new revenue share model, I would think ACC schools will be fighting for attractive opponents, good time slots, and main networks
 
UConnJim said:
Here is the explanation for BC's TV ratings. Remember, TV ratings are driven by the school itself, the opponent, the time slot, time slot competition, and the broadcast network.

BC had 4 games that were rated and 8 games that were not. The ones not rated were on the ACCN, SECN, CW, and ACCNX (streaming). Here are the 4 games:

9/2 Labor Day at 7:30 PM @FSU on ESPN at 7:30 PM. This is the prime Labor Day college football time slot against a popular opponent on one of the top networks, ESPN. Viewers = 4.44 million.

10/17 Thursday night at Virginia Tech on ESPN at 7 PM. The prime college football game on Thursday night against a name opponent on ESPN. But, half of the game was up against an NFL game. Viewers = 712k.

10/25 Friday night vs Louisville on ESPN2 at 7:30 PM. Friday night marquee game against a solid opponent with limited football competition, but on ESPN2. Viewers = 879k.

11/16 Saturday @SMU on ESPN at 3:30 PM. Prime ESPN TV slot, but against stiff competition and this was the second lowest rated game in the slot by a large amount. Viewers = 957k.

So, 64% of BC viewers in 2024 came on the Labor Day prime time game against FSU.

With the new revenue share model, I would think ACC schools will be fighting for attractive opponents, good time slots, and main networks
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Nice analysis. I wonder how the unequal revenue distribution adjusts for ratings inflation due to opponent? If it doesn't, I would expect that teams with bad drawing power will be scheduled in the worst times slots to avoid the kind of pump up that we saw with the FSU game above.
 
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UConnJim said:
With the new revenue share model, I would think ACC schools will be fighting for attractive opponents, good time slots, and main networks
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So which schools will want to play BC if viewership drives revenue? Can’t say I like that model, I would prefer more pay for success like the basketball tournament or a combo. That said I hope every old BE school, especially BC, gets screwed by the ACC.
 
CL82 said:
Nice analysis. I wonder how the unequal revenue distribution adjusts for ratings inflation due to opponent? If it doesn't, I would expect that teams with bad drawing power will be scheduled in the worst times slots to avoid the kind of pump up that we saw with the FSU game above.
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The FSU’s and Clemson’s have to play some of lower half of the league, otherwise whats the point of being in a league. They should go independent, play top 25 schools only and go 6-6. The boosters will love that.
 
Stinger92860 said:
The FSU’s and Clemson’s have to play some of lower half of the league, otherwise whats the point of being in a league. They should go independent, play top 25 schools only and go 6-6. The boosters will love that.
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Correct, but if you put those games in less desirable slots, then you minimize the ratings boost the lower end teams get from playing those games, which in turn lowers their share of discretionary conference distributions, which in turn keeps them at the bottom of the league. They are in a death spiral now, well, if not death, let's call it a coma spiral, where they are still alive, but just not relevant anymore.

That is the gift that the FSU/Clemson settlement gave to the rest of the league. They're still gone at the earliest opportunity, but now they will leave a poison pill behind that will taint the remaining members.
 
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Vowelguy said:
The B12 could’ve had Stan/Cal when the PAC broke up.
And the ACC took them precisely because of the extra revenue from exposure to new markets. Give them up and the revenue goes away.

Rule #1 of conference realignment: there is not some deity who gets to do whats best for everyone. Instead each discrete move needs to make the participants better. This 3-3 swap fails that test right off.
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Cal and Stanford didn’t want to go to the big12 they preferred the ACC because it was a better fit for academics and Olympic sports (minus the travel). I believe Cal/Stanford have produced more gold medalists than any other universities. Cal/Stanford administration and alumni might have more in common with the sec schools than the big12, which is to say not much.
 
bendm said:
Cal and Stanford didn’t want to go to the big12 they preferred the ACC because
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Is there proof of that or was that merely a narrative floated to justify their move to the ACC?
 
Vowelguy said:
Is there proof of that or was that merely a narrative floated to justify their move to the ACC?
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That was The message conveyed by the administration to the alumni association after not getting an invite to the BIG
 
Vowelguy said:
So, no proof.
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you’re asking me to prove a negative… As an alum I didn’t want them joining the big12 either. The travel sucks but it would suck in the BIG too. at least the ACC supports Olympic sports. The big12 doesn’t even have soccer…
 
bendm said:
you’re asking me to prove a negative… As an alum I didn’t want them joining the big12 either. The travel sucks but it would suck in the BIG too. at least the ACC supports Olympic sports. The big12 doesn’t even have soccer…
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Since soccer is a non rev sport, I would think UConn could find a near buy conference to park the soccer teams and any other non-rev sport not offered by the B12. Hockey would stay put in Hockey East.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
Since soccer is a non rev sport, I would think UConn could find a near buy conference to park the soccer teams and any other non-rev sport not offered by the B12. Hockey would stay put in Hockey East.
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We would probably stay in the Big East for soccer as field hockey did in AAC days. AAC didn’t offer it.
 
freescooter said:
We would probably stay in the Big East for soccer as field hockey did in AAC days. AAC didn’t offer it.
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First world problem, but conferences often dont let any of your teams stick around when you bolt.
BE/American was a unique largely mutually agreeable split. Any other schools leaving likely isnt. Eg, when JMU announced they were leaving the CAA they were immediatley barred from any conference tournaments.
 
Vowelguy said:
First world problem, but conferences often dont let any of your teams stick around when you bolt.
BE/American was a unique largely mutually agreeable split. Any other schools leaving likely isnt. Eg, when JMU announced they were leaving the CAA they were immediatley barred from any conference tournaments.
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It's probably more attributable to the fact that it was mutually beneficial to both the big east and Connecticut for our soccer program to stay with them.
 
Purple Stein said:
If Netflix had any balls at all they would make the show about the trials and tribulations of a plucky, overlooked, Independent team with a massive chip on their shoulder...
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The Cinderella effect....the formula worked for the guys when they made the movie "Rudy".. kid with a dream.
 
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