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nelsonmuntz said:
I would be willing to take a little less money from the ACC for hoops if we got a similar deal for football that we were getting with the Big 12.
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Really?
Given that the league could be decimated in the next 2-3 years? Would need to see some guarantees to protect UConn should a bulk of the league leave.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I would be willing to take a little less money from the ACC for hoops if we got a similar deal for football that we were getting with the Big 12.
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You mean less BB money and still not having FB in until 2031. Yeah, no.

Now if the ACC were bringing FB into the fold right away, then maybe. We would certainly jump to the ACC if offered rather than continuing to get dicked around by the Big 12.

But if the two offers on the table were the same from both, you go with the Big 12. They are argueably more stable and better positioned to stay in the P3 slot. There are way more teams in the ACC that would get poached by the B1G and SEC if/when they implode and would be a shell of themselves.

Of course, we don't have an offer from either, so it's moot.
 
uconn_jack said:
You mean less BB money and still not having FB in until 2031. Yeah, no.

Now if the ACC were bringing FB into the fold right away, then maybe. We would certainly jump to the ACC if offered rather than continuing to get dicked around by the Big 12.

But if the two offers on the table were the same from both, you go with the Big 12. They are argueably more stable and better positioned to stay in the P3 slot. There are way more teams in the ACC that would get poached by the B1G and SEC if/when they implode and would be a shell of themselves.

Of course, we don't have an offer from either, so it's moot.
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Your last sentence summarizes it perfectly.
 
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buddy said:
Don't kid yourself. It's all a club, just like conference realigment in general.
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Yet schools have been kicked out of the AAU by their P4 conference mates in the last 20 years.

When you get in front of that board and say, "These are my friends, I want them in" you will be laughed at, because so many schools are on the verge of getting the heave-ho in an era when we have cutbacks everywhere; they'll insist on the sanctity of the metrics, because that's all they have to cull their membership.

The vast majority of schools, including the Canadian schools, don't even have big time sports.
 
uconnyankee said:
Really?
Given that the league could be decimated in the next 2-3 years? Would need to see some guarantees to protect UConn should a bulk of the league leave.
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It isn't going to happen. It's increasingly clear that FSU and Clemson have no place to go. Nor do UNC and UVA. Long term, for UConn, the ACC is a better choice if we have that option. Right now we do not. So the Big XII is the lifeboat that may or may not arrive. Have to get on if we can.

When the ACC is "decimated" it's because the top schools took their ball and formed a super league. That means Vandy will be out, most of the Big XII will be out, a few of the ACC schools will be in. Rutgers probably will be out. Then the leftovers of all those conferences need to realign in some fashion. An ACC without FSU, Clemson or Miami but with Vandy and Cinci is probably not a bad spot.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It isn't going to happen. It's increasingly clear that FSU and Clemson have no place to go. Nor do UNC and UVA. Long term, for UConn, the ACC is a better choice if we have that option. Right now we do not. So the Big XII is the lifeboat that may or may not arrive. Have to get on if we can.

When the ACC is "decimated" it's because the top schools took their ball and formed a super league. That means Vandy will be out, most of the Big XII will be out, a few of the ACC schools will be in. Rutgers probably will be out. Then the leftovers of all those conferences need to realign in some fashion. An ACC without FSU, Clemson or Miami but with Vandy and Cinci is probably not a bad spot.
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people dont wanna hear that but it's probably true. even getting into the big12 doesnt guarantee anything if there's eventually a "breakaway league" for football. we're all assuming the entire "p3" would breakaway but wouldnt it make more sense for individual schools to form a new league rather than for entire conferences to go together? if these admins are that greedy why would any dead weight be included e.g northwestern, rutgers, vandy, UConn?
 
bendm said:
people dont wanna hear that but it's probably true. even getting into the big12 doesnt guarantee anything if there's eventually a "breakaway league" for football. we're all assuming the entire "p3" would breakaway but wouldnt it make more sense for individual schools to form a new league rather than for entire conferences to go together? if these admins are that greedy why would any dead weight be included e.g northwestern, rutgers, vandy, UConn?
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That’s my view of where it’s headed once they are paying players. There is zero chance UConn is in that group. Schools will need to make some tough decisions. I don’t think even Kentucky, BC, Indiana or Virginia will have much appetite for it. Schools like Colorado or OK State are borderline. Then you put Olympic sports back together in a way that makes sense or combine it with the new sub tier football.

Those top football schools don’t want to share the revenue with the NCAA or conference mates (like FSU and Clemson). They barely do now, basketball tournaments fund the whole operation. The status quo is absurd and isn’t sustainable.
 
BullDawg said:
Wrong!
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Wise up. Membership is by invitation only with no defined criteria. Suppose Big Ten membership requires AAU membership and a certain school is viewed by the Big 10 as someone they would like in their conference. Say, Michigan representative lobbies other members to invite that particular school ( say, ND). There is no doubt that they would be swayed for a quid pro quo. Merit is important. There are many schools that could easily be in the AAU, but as they say it is not what you know, but whom you know that matters.
 
buddy said:
Wise up. Membership is by invitation only with no defined criteria. Suppose Big Ten membership requires AAU membership and a certain school is viewed by the Big 10 as someone they would like in their conference. Say, Michigan representative lobbies other members to invite that particular school ( say, ND). There is no doubt that they would be swayed for a quid pro quo. Merit is important. There are many schools that could easily be in the AAU, but as they say it is not what you know, but whom you know that matters.
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If they thought adding UConn would get THEM more money (or not having UConn would risk credibility) they'd do it in a heartbeat. Maybe if we had a senator or two pushing dollars our way...
 
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At 1:33:00 Flugaur talks again about Fox wanting to play football on non-traditional days. He says this is Fox, not ESPN. He says that Yormark is in deep discussions with Fox about this. He says the other part of this discussion with Fox is UConn.


 
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Hamms30 said:
not one of .. we'd be THE top school academically
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If that story were true, I think it would just be more proof that the schools that don't like us have some really weird view of us that doesn't match reality. Like they were told something by some rando 30 years ago that they still believe
 
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JMick said:
If that story were true, I think it would just be more proof that the schools that don't like us have some really weird view of us that doesn't match reality. Like they were told something by some rando 30 years ago that they still believe
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Reinhart is an idiot and he is regurgitating some mid-level flunkie at one of the athletic departments trashing UConn.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Reinhart is an idiot and he is regurgitating some mid-level flunkie at one of the athletic departments trashing UConn.
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That's what I mean though. If someone did tell him that, it furthers my belief that the people responsible for these decisions don't have accurate information to support those decisions. Or they do have accurate information and cast it aside for built in biases.
 
JMick said:
That's what I mean though. If someone did tell him that, it furthers my belief that the people responsible for these decisions don't have accurate information to support those decisions. Or they do have accurate information and cast it aside for built in biases.
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Just a jackhole being a jackhole. I wouldn't read more into it than that.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Now would be a great time for UConn leaders to visit ACC headquarters.
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And say what? What new information do we have for the ACC that they don't already know?

No one is going to do anything until the landscape changes, which it is about to. Just try not to cake our pants for a few months, and see how the House settlement plays out.
 
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amory said:
We’re running at the football again, and Lucy’s got that familiar glint in her eye
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Charlie Brown Football GIF
 
The timing of the leaks and Uconn visits just did not make sense.
Why do it right before season kickoff? Why not wait until season over or when Uconn BB is cooking???
 
nelsonmuntz said:
And say what? What new information do we have for the ACC that they don't already know?

No one is going to do anything until the landscape changes, which it is about to. Just try not to cake our pants for a few months, and see how the House settlement plays out.
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What new info did Texas or Okl have for the SEC, or USC or UCLA for the B10, or even Rutgers or Md for the B10. You don't have to tell them something new. They may do something proactive before the B12 starts looking at UConn again.
 
BigTenFan said:
The timing of the leaks and Uconn visits just did not make sense.
Why do it right before season kickoff? Why not wait until season over or when Uconn BB is cooking???
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How much cooking does BB have to do? These things tend to always leak or happen right before FB season. The leaks were intended sabotage.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
What new info did Texas or Okl have for the SEC, or USC or UCLA for the B10, or even Rutgers or Md for the B10. You don't have to tell them something new. They may do something proactive before the B12 starts looking at UConn again.
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Rutgers and MD were the Big 10 chasing cable boxes as its network got bigger. USC/UCLA and Texas/OK were recognizing that Alston was about to rock everyone's world.

Now the House case is hitting. The ACC knows everything they need to know about us.

I think the P4 is going to spend some time deciding whether it needs to break football off, and not much will happen on the realignment front until it does.
 
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