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[whaler11]

Would you be willing to show some examples of things he's said on Twitter that have proven to be wrong about? I'm curious because people say how much he's been wrong, but I honestly don't believe I've seen a seen any supporting examples.

Pay closer attention?

Arizona State hockey to the Big 10. Then he was actually playing two sides - one for the empire and one for BIG TEN MAN.

UConn and Cincinnati to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

After the Big 12 got their feelings hurt by the ACC network it was
UConn/Cincinnati/BYU/Houston to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

Literally everything since that one wrestling tidbit.

Then once everyone stopped thinking about expansion the last two days of nonsense with a 24 month window.

He's as full of crap as the Dood. He just freaks out less often and people here like that he is pro-UConn.

 

[whaler11]

I fail to see how people actually in the college sports business couldn't see UT/OU leaving the L8 out to dry once the expansion train started last year.

I do see the possibility of them
making the incredibly dumb decision to add SMU, Rice, UTEP, and the South Texas School of Welding.

You think that part of the story is a little implausible? That's probably only the second most ridiculous piece of his 2 day bender.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It depends on your definition of favorable. Would it be identical to what they have now, no. Would it be favorable as compared to the conference blowing up in 2024 and the leftovers scrambling to throw something together in time for the coming season, yes. At least it affords them the opportunity to put together a group of schools, add some if need be, negotiate, see where the market is, and come to the best possible conclusion while not be under any immediate time pressure.

Basically, Iowa St, K State, TCU, Baylor, etc. saw what happened to the old Big E school like UConn who suddenly found themselves without a lifeboat when the conference sank. No university athletic director nor president wants to go through that. Plus, if the XII survivors can ban together, it likely give them enough cloudt to grab some of the best of the rest of the G5 versus being picked-off themselves. Its all about survival.

 

[kyleslamb]

Pay closer attention?

Arizona State hockey to the Big 10. Then he was actually playing two sides - one for the empire and one for BIG TEN MAN.

UConn and Cincinnati to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

After the Big 12 got their feelings hurt by the ACC network it was
UConn/Cincinnati/BYU/Houston to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

Literally everything since that one wrestling tidbit.

Then once everyone stopped thinking about expansion the last two days of nonsense with a 24 month window.

He's as full of crap as the Dood. He just freaks out less often and people here like that he is pro-UConn.

You're taking some of those things way out of context.

He wasn't playing both sides on the ASU thing. He said he was wrong about it. He said "BTM" said it wouldn't be the Big Ten before the announcement was made. He clarified his opinion was different.

Anyhow, he's never made a matter of fact proclamation about UConn and Cincinnati.

This is what people tend to do... they read something, even a generic statement, and equate it to a specific prediction. There haven't been many of those that have been wrong. Everyone misses on a few things. Especially someone that's got 20,000 tweets. However, I think you had it in your mind he was full of it, so you're looking for anything you can to discredit him.

 

[Jae-VT]

Agree with the posts above - therefore, as mentioned by @frankthetank ... Wouldn't it be in those schools best interest to vote as a block for expansion by 4 ASAP, thereby maximizing revenue until a departure by OU/UT?

If Flug is correct, then the answer to your question is that there are less than eight schools that will be looking for the controlled implosion plan to work. i.e. OU, UT, and ..... KU or OSU or (insert school X) will find landing spots in other power conferences. The information that Flug puts out there sounds reasonable, but I cannot say how reliable he is, only that what he reports sounds reasonable. At the very least, in order for Flug's reported theory to make sense, less than eight schools must realize by now that the Big 12 has a limited future.

 

[whaler11]

You're taking some of those things way out of context.

He wasn't playing both sides on the ASU thing. He said he was wrong about it. He said "BTM" said it wouldn't be the Big Ten before the announcement was made. He clarified his opinion was different.

Anyhow, he's never made a matter of fact proclamation about UConn and Cincinnati.

This is what people tend to do... they read something, even a generic statement, and equate it to a specific prediction. There haven't been many of those that have been wrong. Everyone misses on a few things. Especially someone that's got 20,000 tweets. However, I think you had it in your mind he was full of it, so you're looking for anything you can to discredit him.

I'm taking none of it out of context. He proclaimed these things dozens if not hundreds of times.

He proclaimed the Big 12 was expanding with UConn and Cincy. When they didn't he melted down and said he would no longer share anything from BIG TEN MAN.

After that lasted about 48 hours - when the Big 12 had their feelings hurt he proclaimed they were expanding by 4. BYU/UConn/Houston/Cincinnati.

When that didn't happen he dreamed up the last two days.

I know you faux insiders need to stick together but he said these things constantly and many of those tweets are copied right here in this and other threads. If you want to pretend BIG TEN MAN is real knock yourself out. I'm not your google monkey.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

If Flug is correct, then the answer to your question is that there are less than eight schools that will be looking for the controlled implosion plan to work. i.e. OU, UT, and ..... KU or OSU or (insert school X) will find landing spots in other power conferences. The information that Flug puts out there sounds reasonable, but I cannot say how reliable he is, only that what he reports sounds reasonable. At the very least, in order for Flug's reported theory to make sense, less than eight schools must realize by now that the Big 12 has a limited future.

KU should be 'safe' between their basketball image and AAU status, they would be attractive to the B1G and SEC as long as the state of Kansas is willing to potentially sacrifice K State to G5 status to save KU as a P4 school. OK is a wildcard as the state of Oklahoma may have to think about the same; but, with some credibility in football and basketball and a deep pocketed donor, I can see the SEC grabbing them with OU going to the B1G similar to who the SEC took 'risk' with TA&M to open the door to a new market as they could not get the big name in U Texas.

 

[JSM1970]

Maybe it's me, but I recall one of the big things with Manuel was he suposedly had great relations with the BCU AD and would build support with the next event.

The next event occurred and Manuel was "monitoring" while Jurich was dealing.

Amazing Manuel got the Michigan job. He's 9000 pounds or more by now, a total slob. Does he take credit for the UConn Women's hoops or Field Hockey Championships?

 

[The Funster]

Just search this thread for flug's tweets. A quick search found two tweets where "he" admitted he was wrong. He's made other suppositions that turned to be way off. To be fair, he has provided some well thought out and plausible scenarios that he has been consistent about. One of these is a "controlled implosion" of the Big 12 which he broached as early as May this year. Looking at his history though and how he has evolved its kind of obvious that BTM is a device created to lend credibility to his theories.

 

[CTMike]

Maybe it's me, but I recall one of the big things with Manuel was he suposedly had great relations with the BCU AD and would build support with the next event.

The next event occurred and Manuel was "monitoring" while Jurich was dealing.

Amazing Manuel got the Michigan job. He's 9000 pounds or more by now, a total slob. Does he take credit for the UConn Women's hoops or Field Hockey Championships?

Maybe it's me, but you're a .

 

[bobbyinaz]

You're taking some of those things way out of context.

He wasn't playing both sides on the ASU thing. He said he was wrong about it. He said "BTM" said it wouldn't be the Big Ten before the announcement was made. He clarified his opinion was different.

Anyhow, he's never made a matter of fact proclamation about UConn and Cincinnati.

This is what people tend to do... they read something, even a generic statement, and equate it to a specific prediction. There haven't been many of those that have been wrong. Everyone misses on a few things. Especially someone that's got 20,000 tweets. However, I think you had it in your mind he was full of it, so you're looking for anything you can to discredit him.

He absolutely played both sides on ASU. And his announcement was the same day that it was announced that ASU wasn't going to B1G.

He then followed it up with the announcement that he was done reporting what his "BTM" was telling him. That lasted for a couple days before his his psychosis kicked back in & the voices in his head told him to start blogging again.

Because he has been the only one of the CR blogger buffoons to say favorable things about UConn this board, desperate for any good news, grabbed onto him & anointed him as the CR guru. There was even a point where people were trying to say that he was sharing info from Burton in an effort to justify his nonsense.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Let's not confuse Flug's hockey information with his football information. He's been wrong on most things hockey related, CR and otherwise, in anything he tweets about, but he's never claimed to be much of a hockey fan despite being from Minnesota. College hockey exists in its own little world and people who are "insiders" there would in all likelihood not be insiders in much related to football and other CR issues.

 

[kyleslamb]

He absolutely played both sides on ASU. And his announcement was the same day that it was announced that ASU wasn't going to B1G.

He then followed it up with the announcement that he was done reporting what his "BTM" was telling him. That lasted for a couple days before his his psychosis kicked back in & the voices in his head told him to start blogging again.

Because he has been the only one of the CR blogger buffoons to say favorable things about UConn this board, desperate for any good news, grabbed onto him & anointed him as the CR guru. There was even a point where people were trying to say that he was sharing info from Burton in an effort to justify his nonsense.

Well I can't speak for this board or whether people are anointing him a 'guru' just because he's giving out optimistic news. But speaking for myself, since I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm looking at him objectively and I think he's legit. Has be been wrong before? Sure. Everyone has. Does he have an ego? Probably. I think everyone that has thousands and thousands of posts on Twitter probably has an ego. Do these things mean he doesn't have a credible source of information? No.

It's also possible that he does have the legitimate source he claims and that he's also exaggerated or conflated some things. It doesn't have to be either/or.

 

[whaler11]

Well I can't speak for this board or whether people are anointing him a 'guru' just because he's giving out optimistic news. But speaking for myself, since I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm looking at him objectively and I think he's legit. Has be been wrong before? Sure. Everyone has. Does he have an ego? Probably. I think everyone that has thousands and thousands of posts on Twitter probably has an ego. Do these things mean he doesn't have a credible source of information? No.

It's also possible that he does have the legitimate source he claims and that he's also exaggerated or conflated some things. It doesn't have to be either/or.

If twisting yourself into a pretzel to ignore facts when creating your worldview is your thing - you are in the right place.

 

[Fishy]

Here's where I leave it Flug...

When has he been right?

I don't know what he knows or who he knows - I'm not passing judgement on anyone here.

But when has he been right?

(If you mention anything about some wrestling addition to the Big 10 or anything like that, you get punched in the throat, so don't.)

 

[noeynox]

Here's where I leave it Flug...

When has he been right?

I don't know what he knows or who he knows - I'm not passing judgement on anyone here.

But when has he been right?

(If you mention anything about some wrestling addition to the Big 10 or anything like that, you get punched in the throat, so don't.)

He had Coastal Carolina going fbs long before every one else. I will give him that one.

 

[psilotic]

Maybe it's me, but I recall one of the big things with Manuel was he suposedly had great relations with the BCU AD and would build support with the next event.

The next event occurred and Manuel was "monitoring" while Jurich was dealing.

Amazing Manuel got the Michigan job. He's 9000 pounds or more by now, a total slob. Does he take credit for the UConn Women's hoops or Field Hockey Championships?

Manuel wasn't 100 pct. perfect but he was a damn sight better than his skinny-ass predecessor. Got Michigan to come to Rent (and show us what the place could really be) and re-started BCU series. IMO it was far less Jurich outworking him than Clemson & FSU pushing for Louisville. BTW, the fat jokes are beyond tiresome, champ.

 

[upstater]

I think so. The thing the Big 12 has always had going for it is that while they lack dominant powerhouse football programs outside of OU/Texas (when they actually are), they have a lot of mid-level programs that are almost all large state schools with respectable followings. Basically, they don't have any Wake Forests, BCs, or Washington States. Sure, a WVU-Kansas State game isn't going to be a ratings bonanza, but it'll be respectable. Not to mention KU basketball is a valuable commodity, and if those eight decided to tack on some additions, they could create a good, though not incredible, football conference that would still be P5 and could garner a decent TV deal, certainly larger than the AAC or MWC. All of the B12 schools are miles ahead of Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, ECU, and Temple in terms of program value to a TV network. Those five aren't even close.

watch what happens to their followings when they are not in a P5 conference. Things change. Kansas St. = Colorado St. in such a scenario.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Here's where I leave it Flug...

When has he been right?

I don't know what he knows or who he knows - I'm not passing judgement on anyone here.

But when has he been right?

(If you mention anything about some wrestling addition to the Big 10 or anything like that, you get punched in the throat, so don't.)

Which reporter should we go to?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Pay closer attention?

Arizona State hockey to the Big 10. Then he was actually playing two sides - one for the empire and one for BIG TEN MAN.

UConn and Cincinnati to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

After the Big 12 got their feelings hurt by the ACC network it was
UConn/Cincinnati/BYU/Houston to the Big 12. Then no expansion.

Literally everything since that one wrestling tidbit.

Then once everyone stopped thinking about expansion the last two days of nonsense with a 24 month window.

He's as full of crap as the Dood. He just freaks out less often and people here like that he is pro-UConn.

Flug's reporting has tracked fairly closely with Barry Thamel's,, except Flugs is usually posting it first, which means they are probably getting their information from the same or similar ultimate sources. Which ironically, is exactly what Flugs is saying.

Boren himself can't predict where expansion is going, but you are mad at Flugs.

 

[whaler11]

Berry knows BIG TEN MAN? Should be able to turn that into a Pulitzer.

It really is amazing what people will believe.

I'm not mad at Flugs - I don't care what he dreams up - I'm mocking people who think he is providing inside information.

 

[BlueandOG]

Manuel wasn't 100 pct. perfect but he was a damn sight better than his skinny-ass predecessor. Got Michigan to come to Rent (and show us what the place could really be) and re-started BCU series. IMO it was far less Jurich outworking him than Clemson & FSU pushing for Louisville. BTW, the fat jokes are beyond tiresome, champ.

This

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12h12 hours ago
@theDudeofWV
The goal of West Virginia is to obtain its best possible future post 2024.
Not watching "Atlanta" burn down to the ground.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12h12 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush
Today is 2016
In 2019-20-21 there will extrodinary pressure on WVU to cut a deal.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@NebGradDubDub @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush
Put it this way Dude..
Everything you said about ACC"others" needing to do(2011-15)is now WVU

Doug‏@NebGradDubDub
@theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
B12 will extend GOR to 2035 in the next couple of years or it will dissolve. Plain and simple

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12h12 hours ago
True
There is only one way to get B12 GOR extended in 2019-20 w decent $ deal from networks.
Release current GOR

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12h12 hours ago
And what OU Contacts mean by"decent deal" is below P5 standards..but above what "others" could get in open market.

Alex ‏@mason5plumlee · 12h12 hours ago
@flugempire
This makes zero sense, why would ESPN pay P5 money for a Big 12 without OU/UT?

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@mason5plumlee
They wouldn't pay P5 money.
Not even close. But pay would be more than "others" could get in open market without OU/UT

 

[Charley Horse]

Flug's reporting has tracked fairly closely with Barry Thamel's,, except Flugs is usually posting it first, which means they are probably getting their information from the same or similar ultimate sources. Which ironically, is exactly what Flugs is saying.

Boren himself can't predict where expansion is going, but you are mad at Flugs.

There have been broad similarities. Like Flug, Tramel once believed expansion was likely and he once identified BYU, Cincy and UConn as excellent additions. Unlike Flug, however, I don't believe Tramel ever included Houston in any scenario.

And like Tramel, Flug has cooled his heels on the likelihood of expansion but Flug certainly didn't draw that conclusion before Tramel. Flug was still chanting "Four to get two" horse trading mantra weeks after Tramel and Bohls opined that expansion seemed less likely.

One thing Tramel never did that Flug has done from time to time is blame Texas. According to Flug's BTM guy, Texas has been opposed to expansion, onboard with expansion, ESPN's voice, a proponent of westward expansion while ESPN was a proponent of eastward expansion, a proponent of Houston while ESPN was an opponent of Houston, for BYU, against BYU, etc. etc.

Yes, I'm a Texas fan defending Texas. Everybody knows Texas is to blame for something and I don't mind that. But Flug could just never settle on exactly what Texas was to blame for. He was all over the board with contradictory assertions.

To me, that reeked of a very low-level "Oklahoma insider" caught up in the passions of an onfield rivalry rather than a high level "Oklahoma insider" cognizant of the fact that Oklahoma and Texas actually share most values and common interests - which is how Tramel speaks of Texas.

 

[jostar1]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@MurrDCU @NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
Is Flugar still talking about OU leaving? Lol.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @MurrDCU @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
Its BS. Complete & utter BS.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @MurrDCU @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
B12 has more security than B1G then because B12 contract 2 years longer.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
The idea that ESPN/Fox would give a long term contract to a B12 without UT & OU is absurd.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
The idea that the B12 would give up the $ on the current deal & let UT & OU out is absurd.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
To cure the harm done ESPN/Fox would have to pay more than the B12 gets now for a longer term.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
For a less valuable product. Cheaper to wait.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
Plus I guarantee you that ESPN & Fox want the Big 12 intact with UT & OU as members.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
The only year anyone gets out of the GoR is 2025. Not 2019, not 2020 or 2022 but 2025.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire 2025.
All of you need to own this simple fact: The GoR expires in 2025.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @Expansion_Crush @flugempire
No amount of wishful thinking or deception is going to change that simple fact so accept it.

 

[NYUConn]

Manuel wasn't 100 pct. perfect but he was a damn sight better than his skinny-ass predecessor. Got Michigan to come to Rent (and show us what the place could really be) and re-started BCU series. IMO it was far less Jurich outworking him than Clemson & FSU pushing for Louisville. BTW, the fat jokes are beyond tiresome, champ.

Also got home and home with Missouri, Boise State, BYU, Indiana and Illinois.

Oversaw UConn's jump to Hockey East.

Helped get the Basketball center built on campus.

Warde was great for UConn. Because he couldn't wave a magic wand and get us into the ACC isn't on him.

Also, not for nothing, but during the Cuse-Ville game earlier this year they had someone (I forget who) from Louisville on and they were praising Syracuse for helping the Cardinals get into the ACC. So it wasn't just BC, Clemson and FSU that lined up against us and I would venture to guess that, despite initial media reports, we probably were never the real front runners.

 

[Charley Horse]

Having said all that about Flug and Tramel, I think I need to add something else. I don't think either one actually knows what's going to happen and if I had to bet, I'd say they're both wrong.

I'm no insider and I have no desire to deceive anybody with lies.

But I have reason to believe expansion has not actually cooled. To the people selling conjecture, it's been an up and down thing. To the people involved (who signed non-disclosure statements) it has been a steady process.

There's talk like Texas and OU's unwillingness to sign a GOR is a shift but it has been their consistent stance from day one.

I still think the conference will expand. Probably by two. Probably Cincy and Houston. I'm sorry, UConn fans. You were my favorite, but these things are just my hunch at this moment in time, based on conversations with people who know people who shouldn't be talking.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Berry knows BIG TEN MAN? Should be able to turn that into a Pulitzer.

It really is amazing what people will believe.

I'm not mad at Flugs - I don't care what he dreams up - I'm mocking people who think he is providing inside information.

He is just another news source. Mocking people for following him is like mocking people for watching football because they listen to TV announcers that can't predict which play will result in a touchdown or an interception.

 

[whaler11]

He is just another news source. Mocking people for following him is like mocking people for watching football because they listen to TV announcers that can't predict which play will result in a touchdown or an interception.

He is just a guy talking out of his rear end. It's like calling HFD a news source.

The comparison to predicting plays is funny from someone who is always talking about false equivilencies.

 

[noeynox]

He is just another news source. Mocking people for following him is like mocking people for watching football because they listen to TV announcers that can't predict which play will result in a touchdown or an interception.

I wouldn't call him a news source in the least, but I also don't get hell bent out of shape on what he says. @Charley Horse did a good job showing his many flip flops on various things. I don't doubt he knows someone somewhere he feeds him morsels from time to time, but like you said Bowlsby or Boren don't know where this is going so how good of a source does he really have?