Greg Flugaur @flugempire 15m15 minutes ago
TV-related revenue for 2017-18,on a per-school basis: SEC: $35.6 million Big Ten: $33 million (8 mil BTN/25 mil Tier1) Pac12: $22.95 million
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 14m14 minutes ago
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https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/718508682938576896… I'm seeing lots of crazy numbers being thrown (low & high) on what to expect from new Big10 TV media deal.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 13m13 minutes ago
TV related Revenue for Big10 after new Tier 1 deal starting in 2017 will have schools reach a level of 33 mil..45 mil after all Conf payouts
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 11m11 minutes ago
B1G schools only receive about 14 mil each right now on their old 2006 Contract...it's the BTN $ (pure TV only) that has kept B1G up in cash
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 10m10 minutes ago
Now the 33 mil (25 mil on new tier 1 contract) will rise..those numbers only are for 2017 ( projected) If B1G doubles 2006 contract?...
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 8m8 minutes ago
...if B1G doubles old contract then numbers go to approx 36 mil in TV related revenue (only)...48-49 mil per school on full Conf payout
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 8m8 minutes ago
Of course new B1G TV contract is going to be much more than 10-15% of current Contract. And it's not going to get tripled either....
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 7m7 minutes ago
Many people on Twitter get all these numbers screwed up because they get their apples and oranges all screwed up...so be careful.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 6m6 minutes ago
What the B1G will succeed in doing (besides double or near double $) is more exposure..better platforms. Example: no more ESPNU.
Kevin Hagemeier @KevinHagemeier 19m19 minutes ago
@flugempire 2017-2018 will be under the new TV deal. Is this right? I think legacy B1G members have payouts around $35 million in 16-17
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 8m8 minutes ago
@KevinHagemeier Actually you may be correct..because B1G have been receiving more payout vs past projections Example: 1mil BTN profit share
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 6m6 minutes ago
My point is...well....most people actually have no clue what B1G schools are receiving from ESON/ABC deal right now (2006) Clue: not much
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 2m2 minutes ago
I would highly suggest people be prepared that the Big Ten gets doubled on 2006 deal..or shade under. Not triple...not 10-15%..how stupid
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 18s19 seconds ago
If the Big Ten only received a 10-15% increase from last contract they would receive less than B12 schools in tier 1 money in 2017.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire now2 minutes ago
It's very difficult to explain all this on Twitter... But let's keep in simple. B1G TV only $ starting in 2017 - 33-36 mil per school.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire now1 minute ago
And that number will only rise through the length of the contract which is the gap Boren and others are concerned about...
Mr. Belvedere @brocktoon73 14m14 minutes ago
@flugempire what about this talk of adding six acc teams? Legit or nonsense?
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 3m3 minutes ago
@brocktoon73 ACC GOR is real....however GOR's have teeth vs 1 or 2 schools trying to bolt. But implosion is another deal. We've heard nada
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
Ok so I'm good to actually mention the Big10 by name again.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
And I can finally share some things I've been quietly sitting on.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
Pac12 network has been a disaster. No secret there. But would distribution improve if the BTN and Fox jointly purchased 50% of it?
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
I'm not saying it's happening but I'm also not saying it isn't being discussed.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
I do know there is much unrest in P12 regarding their failed network and if something doesn't happen soon look for some to leave after GOR
eric maier @maiereric 8m8 minutes ago
@MH ver3 where are they going? Come on man
MH ver3 @MH ver3 2m2 minutes ago
@maiereric couldn't tell you. I just know there are rumblings.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
And I have heard that B10 wants to keep Pac12 strong due to Rose Bowl and history
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
As it stands now only ucla,usc,cal, and Oregon truly pull their weight in ratings. And cal is slipping.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
What if the Big10 were to expand to 20 and then not stop?
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
What if their end game was a coast to coast entity that included 2 conferences ?
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
An eastern B10 and a central/pacific PAC12(trimmed of some fat)?
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
In that scenario what do schools like Utah, Washington state, Arizona St, Oregon state, and maybe even Cal bring to the table(cont)
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
(Cont) when that table relies on a model that only needs the flagship state schools to produce revenue and maximize profits?
mdmost @mdmost 3h3 hours ago
@mh ver3 Ha ha. This should scare you WVU people the most because the Big 10 might want Texas, OU, and others in the Pac 12.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@mdmost WVU would be fine if the B12 fails. I have that on the best authority
Marion @Rossjc4 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 you forgot colorado
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@Rossjc4 they are an iffy one. Population is relatively small but they do help bridge the gap geographically
Marion @Rossjc4 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 are you saying Utah isn't the flagship school of Utah... Ouch
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@Rossjc4 they aren't but the issue with them is population.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
The BTN revenue model does have a ceiling for profitability and having too many mouths to feed would become a drain.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
They would take Duke to get UNC because the bball ratings would be a windfall
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
In a Pac12 merger scenario they would take 2 schools in Cali because of the state size and ucla and usc have huge followings.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
It just doesn't remain as profitable if you add Stanford and Cal.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
Again I'm not saying that this going to happen. Just that it's been discussed.
Dan @MartinisNCognac 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 The Pac12 Networks problem has never been distribution, it's the Time zone they play in.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@MartinisNCognac no it's a lot of both.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
But back to earth and less hypothetical discussions, the B10 is spitefully trying to gut the ACC.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
The ACC reached out to a few B10 schools about leaving B10 and joining them just this past fall.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
This is how swofford works.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
And it's why B10 totally blocked ACC plans for restructuring who could play in a CCG.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
ACC went hunting with a bb-gun, got embarrassed, and pisses off Delaney.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
I thought the rumors of them going after B10 schools was a joke but have had it corroborated by many different sources since.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
This summer should be very interesting. It could be a bloodbath.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
But swofford is crafty and has dodged these bullets before. Perhaps he can again.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
He has a silver tongue that makes board members at large institutions appear to have the naive intellect of a 5 year old.
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
But I still believe the B12 makes the first move this summer. Most likely by inviting Uconn and Cincy adding a network and a CCG.
ScoBro @scobro1 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 why would B12 add Cincy and UConn when ACC schools may be in play in a year if GOR challenged?
MH ver3 @MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@scobro1 to get a profit all network to make them attractive to those ACC schools.