Non-Key Tweets

[1999.2004.2011]

That moment when non-key tweets turns into a discussion on Nebraska football....

 

[billybud]

You can't corner free associating...it will go where it wants to go.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

My buddy was a farm boy in a small town in Nebraska ,his HS was so small it played 7v7 football .In those days every graduate of a state accredited school had to be accepted at The U of N. He was a walk on running back who played a year or two before he gave it up. It was also very inexpensive.
He lives a few houses from me and on football days the Husker red flag is planted in his front yard replaced by an AZ Cardinal flag on Sunday. (he is a season ticket holder and a member of the hardcore 20,000 who bought season tickets when Phoenix got a pro team. )
His wife is just as dedicated
Their are a number of other Nebraska families here all still loyal to their old State University.
A few years ago The B12 women 's played a golf tournament at my course.
On the 11th hole a Nebraka fan with a golf course lot had a huge Husker banner in their back yard. That had to make the girls feel real proud .Its like being part of a family.
I think UConn is family also but in a more Northeast type way. Football however is the prodigal son whose long awaited return is yet to come,

 

[dayooper]

I can't believe I am writing this but the Dude of WV just made a good point.

Dayooper correctly pointed out the real purpose of the B12 GOR is to maximize the media contract. So theoretically if the media contract was voided due to departures then the GOR's purpose would cease to exist. But that is not what the B12 GOR states. It is left vague and those open for interpretation. It is not tied to the media contract in any way.

Programs like WVU will try and use the GOR to force other B12 programs to remain in the conference. As the Dude stated the conference owns the GOR not the media partner. Will it work? Probably not...if the media money is in conference realignment then the money wins. But it will be ugly and there is no doubt programs like WVU will recognize their very future is in holding the Big12 together till the B12 GOR expires in 2025. So far no conference has succeeded in keeping a team once it has announced its intention to leave but it will be a messy court battle over the GOR if a B12 teams tries to bolt.

Depends on what the media companies say. If the above assumption is true (Not saying it is) than Fox and ESPN can say who can join. They can blackball anybody until the conference releases the schools they want. If Fox wants Oklahoma in the Big10 and ESPN wants Kansas in the SEC, they can say you can't add two to get you back to 10 unless you release OU and KU from their GoR.

Lot's of assumptions, the biggest is that ESPN and Fox would make more money with the above scenario than keeping things the same. That's the premise of the rumor, at least.

 

[huskymedic]

Key... Non-Key... Key... Non-Key: Paging @Dooley

KevinGehlTV 3:16pm via Twitter for iPhone
#Cincy, #UConn to #Big12 look like the only well-rounded options available. Sizable media markets, competitive football, attractive hoops.

KevinGehlTV3:18pm via Twitter for iPhone
BYU won't schedule Sunday games and West Va needs more eastern opponents. UCF/USF offer recruiting ground in FL, but weak in most sports.

KevinGehlTV3:20pm via Twitter for iPhone
#UConn should just open a satellite office in Irving, TX to be in Big 12's face every day. The American looks like slow death right now.

BTN Play-by-Play http://www.kevingehl.com/resume.html

 

[MTHusky]

Momentum builds momentum. Does anyone here feel like Michigan State has been a historically powerful program? They haven't. They landed a great coach, and are riding the momentum. Go back pre-Saban, and Alabama wasn't doing much of anything. They had a tough stretch. Kentucky basketball has had tough stretches too. Ohio State football too, and not long ago. Michigan is just now coming out of a rough stretch. Indiana basketball still hasn't recovered from the Knight era.

Nebraska has amazing fan support. So all they need is the right coach, a strong season or two to build momentum and they'd be back in the thick of it.

 

[FDNY99]

Key... Non-Key... Key... Non-Key: Paging @Dooley

KevinGehlTV 3:16pm via Twitter for iPhone
#Cincy, #UConn to #Big12 look like the only well-rounded options available. Sizable media markets, competitive football, attractive hoops.

KevinGehlTV3:18pm via Twitter for iPhone
BYU won't schedule Sunday games and West Va needs more eastern opponents. UCF/USF offer recruiting ground in FL, but weak in most sports.

KevinGehlTV3:20pm via Twitter for iPhone
#UConn should just open a satellite office in Irving, TX to be in Big 12's face every day. The American looks like slow death right now.

BTN Play-by-Play http://www.kevingehl.com/resume.html

Non-key works for these @huskymedic ...especially if you define key tweet as a tweet from a journalist with credible source that something is happening, or a tweet from conference or school.

 

[MTHusky]

"Go back pre-Saban, and Alabama wasn't doing much of anything."

And here I always thought Paul Bear Bryant coached at Alabama, Guess I was wrong.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I would think tweets from BTN reporters are fairly key and certainly much, much more credible than some guy in his basement.

 

[uchusky32]

I would think tweets from BTN reporters are fairly key and certainly much, much more credible than some guy in his basement.

The guy in his basement is more credible than the guy (35+) in his parent's basement.

 

[junglehusky]

(it's Texas High School realignment though.)

 

[HuskyHawk]

"Go back pre-Saban, and Alabama wasn't doing much of anything."

And here I always thought Paul Bear Bryant coached at Alabama, Guess I was wrong.

Good grief...I obviously mean immediately preceding Saban. The Mike Shula era would be a good example.
DuBose and Franchione weren't that great either. No better than Nebraska has been in recent years.

 

[FDNY99]

I would think tweets from BTN reporters are fairly key and certainly much, much more credible than some guy in his basement.

Those were his own opinions though...he wasn't reporting something based on facts. Now if that had been a report on the B-12 meetings it would have been different.

 

[SubbaBub]

From a different thread

We don't know what will happen, but to make a blanket statement like that really doesn't make sense to me. College sports is all about coaching. Since joining the Big10, Nebraska has had a mediocre coach in Pelini and a wtf coach in Mike Riley. Since Tom Osborne retired, there has been a series of lousy coaches in Lincoln. In fact, they really weren't doing all that well while playing in the Big12. There were 15 Big12 championship games while Nebraska was part of the Big12. They played in only five, winning two of them. Three of those were in the first four years. Two of them while Osborne was coach. The worst part of it is they played in a division with ISU, Colorado, Kansas, KSU, Missouri. Nebraska's slide was started well before they went to the Big10. If they get a bluechip coach they will be back.

Nebraska was sliding after Osborne left. He took a lot of questionable kids, both academically and behaviorally (Lawerence Phillips) and won with those kids that no one would touch.

And Nebraska made its name running the wishbone and the option where you need two skill guys and a bunch of beefy guys. Nebraska could always find beefy guys. You can't recruit to the option anymore unless you are the Naval Academy. The game has passed by N's ability to recruit nationally.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

And here I always thought Paul Bear Bryant coached at Alabama, Guess I was wrong.

And, when Bryant died, Bama began a gradual decline. See Perkins, Curry, DuBose, Shula ... and a quick rebound with Saban.

 

[JSM1970]

Really not comparable given the current demographics. Alabama is in a rich recruiting market, Neb isn't. Alabama is in a warm weather (not really that accurate) market and Nebraska isn't, Alabama is a national program and Nebraska has never really been a national program. Bear Bryant and Saban are legends, I'd never view Osborne as a legend.

Who are Nebraska's most famous alums? Johnny Rodgers? I can think of 10+ Bama ones.

And, when Bryant died, Bama began a gradual decline. See Perkins, Curry, DuBose, Shula ... and a quick rebound with Saban.

 

[FDNY99]

Really not comparable given the current demographics. Alabama is in a rich recruiting market, Neb isn't. Alabama is in a warm weather (not really that accurate) market and Nebraska isn't, Alabama is a national program and Nebraska has never really been a national program. Bear Bryant and Saban are legends, I'd never view Osborne as a legend.

Who are Nebraska's most famous alums? Johnny Rodgers? I can think of 10+ Bama ones.

Nebraska was most definitely a national program. When other teams started to play on tv that's when Nebraska started to decline. Example on the 1983 roster Irving Fryar and Mike Rozier were from NJ (Fryar from Mount Holly, Rozier from Camden); Turner Gill from Texas (Ft. Worth); Doug DuBose was from CT (Montville).

 

[Husky25]

And, when Bryant died, Bama began a gradual decline. See Perkins, Curry, DuBose, Shula ... and a quick rebound with Saban.

Convenient to leap over Gene Stallings.

 

[BoatShow]

A discussion on the UConn board about how irrelevant Nebraska football is...Cmon guys. They may be becoming the Indiana of football but far from irrelevant

 

[DDaileyuconn]

All I want is a power 5 invite

 

[UC1995]

Happy 10,000 replies everyone...

 

[jostar1]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@Juddrock @smm140 The entire B12 would vote for expansion if they had 2 who added value.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@Juddrock @smm140 The B12 isn't against expansion. They are against the angst of exp without the $ to make it worthwhile.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@Juddrock @smm140 the problem is that nobody in the G5 adds value.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@HabibHaddad @GregGregoryKJ I honestly feel bad for them all.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
@HabibHaddad Remember how it was with Eer fans & the SEC rumors after we knew Mizzou was in...

Ben Desrochers ‏@desrochers_ben · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @Juddrock @smm140 I know you don't believe it, but Uconn will be added somewhere, and the value for the Huskies is there.

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @desrochers_ben I do see it. Access to NY would move UCONN to the top of the list if the B12 had a network

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@desrochers_ben What's your best guess as to UCONN's B12 value if the B12 had a network?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@desrochers_ben If the carriage fee model persists it would be about $35M per year - if I recall correctly.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@desrochers_ben Without a B12N it's about $8-12M per year. Again off the top of my head. Big difference.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1h1 hour ago
@desrochers_ben The problem for UCONN & everyone except BYU is they are judged on program history & not potential.

 

[Fishy]

Attendance at Nebraska's 2015 spring game - 76,881.

Are they in a down cycle? Yep.

Irrelevant? Don't be stupid.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Convenient to leap over Gene Stallings.

Nah, I hear ya, yet just forgot Stallings. Upon further review, Stallings' win/loss record, albeit with 1 readily acknowledged national championship, was on par with Curry as both shared a part of Bama's "gradual decline" from Bryant's ridiculous success. As crazy as it is for reasonable people, .700 records were a significant downturn and don't equal success in Tuscaloosa nor anywhere else Crimson Tide fans live. Imagine the rancor as Bama continued declining toward losing records, and failed to offer Cam Newton as big a contract as Auburn.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

What's that old saying about confessions and souls?