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If any of this is true (about OU and TX), and it sounds somewhat plausible , then maybe UConn has been (and will continue to) work TX hard. Sell them on UConn and Cincy getting them into OH and New England / New York while bringing quality sports but not threatening them in football (performance or recruiting).

I'm just shocked that TX can't be convinced that this move wouldn't dilute their revenue, wouldn't threaten their sports, and would strengthen the conference. If TX plans on leaving, it's even worse that they won't allow expansion. Why not leave your partners in a better place if you can.
 
FWIW, the petitioner is a UConn history professor.
My guess is he's going to cry about the school spending tens of thousands of dollars on this campaign when they could give all instructors an extra few hundred per semester.

In reality, if this campaign is only slightly successful it will be worth every penny.
 
If any of this is true (about OU and TX), and it sounds somewhat plausible , then maybe UConn has been (and will continue to) work TX hard. Sell them on UConn and Cincy getting them into OH and New England / New York while bringing quality sports but not threatening them in football (performance or recruiting).

I'm just shocked that TX can't be convinced that this move wouldn't dilute their revenue, wouldn't threaten their sports, and would strengthen the conference. If TX plans on leaving, it's even worse that they won't allow expansion. Why not leave your partners in a better place if you can.

Reasons:
(1) TX has too much ego to admit their LHN is not successful.
(2) TX does not partner with anyone so why would they care about anyone's bottom line but their own?
 
Reasons:
(1) TX has too much ego to admit their LHN is not successful.
(2) TX does not partner with anyone so why would they care about anyone's bottom line but their own?
LHN is very successful...for Texas. The fact that ESPN is taking a beating on it isn't Texas' problem.

Edit: Damn it Whaler, you beat me by 4 minutes!
 
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Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire http://m.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra...6c7-5571-5ebe-9392-3911e9337f83.html?mode=jqm

Everything we have said since April...BOOM!!

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 55m55 minutes ago
Oklahoma has been talking with both SEC & B1G.
Both SEC & B1G would take OU in a nano second when they can.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 54m54 minutes ago
All this talk about B1G not taking Oklahoma because they aren't AAU is comical...delusional....stupid.
MSU became B1G before it became AAU.

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @Expansion_Crush
AAU first...contiguous first.
But not ONLY.
AAU candidates will be looked at first..not ONLY.


Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 52m52 minutes ago

Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur


We warned you about the B12 Ice Storm if Texas pulled the rug out from under OU

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 52m52 minutes ago

Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur


We told you on December 27th that you would all be reminded.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 51m51 minutes ago

Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur
https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/681268757893918720

We also to you Boren would speak about this again after Dereg talks.
 
LHN is very successful...for Texas. The fact that ESPN is taking a beating on it isn't Texas' problem.

Edit: Damn it Whaler, you beat by 4 minutes!

LHN network is only successful for one party: TX so that means it is unsuccessful for everyone one else. Everyone else wants it deep-sized/morphed into a Big 12 network (but I am not sure that would be successful either; maybe mildly successful at best).
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 45m45 minutes ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @RedDirtSport @posas13 And honestly the real story is right under your eyes but your not seeing it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 45m45 minutes ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @RedDirtSport @posas13 The B1G & SEC went out of their way to accommodate the B12 but whack the ACC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 44m44 minutes ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @RedDirtSport @posas13 They basically gave the B12 exactly what they wanted but denied the ACC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 47m47 minutes ago
@RedDirtSport @geoffmitchell @BearsTruthS11 @NateHeupel Why would they do that?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 42m42 minutes ago
@RedDirtSport @geoffmitchell @BearsTruthS11 @NateHeupel Because both he B1G & SEC want to poach ACC schools. The B1G has said it publicly.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 46m46 minutes ago
@RedDirtSport @geoffmitchell @BearsTruthS11 @NateHeupel The B1G has publicly proclaimed their intentions & their needs - Va & NC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 45m45 minutes ago
@RedDirtSport @geoffmitchell @BearsTruthS11 @NateHeupel They have also passed on OU & KU.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 42m42 minutes ago
@RedDirtSport @geoffmitchell @BearsTruthS11 @NateHeupel What we saw yesterday was the B1G, SEC & B12 isolate the ACC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 37m37 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell There is no way in bloody hell either the SEC or B1G would ever challenge the B12 GoR.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 37m37 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell And the B1G has zero interest in OU. None.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 36m36 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell Boren has to win votes & convince Texas it give up the LHN. If he keeps up the rhetoric it may backfire on him.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 35m35 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell Texas wants the Big 12. It doesn't need the Big 12. If Boren pushes too had he may find OU in a tough spot.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 28m28 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell Boren may have went to far. He may have just admitted a violation of the Big 12 bylaws.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 23m23 minutes ago
@Hindstr4 @geoffmitchell Boren's threat could be seen as an admission OU has talked to the B1G they forfeit all conf $ & rights until 2025.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 22m22 minutes ago
@Hindstr4 @geoffmitchell The bylaws state a B12 member must inform the conf within 24 hours of any discussion with another conf.
 
Is this what Herbst was talking about?




Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2m2 minutes ago
@Gmunz1876 @IRaiseMyFlag @jr_mckee ESPN told me last night it would nearly be impossible to open up the B12 contract & give back rights.
 
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He has said it's more than one person.
Correct. But if I had to guess that's just a cover in case his employer catches wind of how much he tweets during business hours - assuming that's his real name.
 
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Royal We, he is king of the Twitter Rumor Mongerers and the Dude is the Jester.
 
Reasons:
(1) TX has too much ego to admit their LHN is not successful.
(2) TX does not partner with anyone so why would they care about anyone's bottom line but their own?

(1) LHN has made money for Texas and word was ESPN broke even on it last year after years of losses. I think Texas is going to be more focused on making LHN successful than on abandoning it.
(2) Texas will partner with anyone who makes more money for them. Sadly for the B12, that is not the #3,#4, #5 schools in Texas and #2 schools in Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa. However, it is the ACC, ESPN, and Notre Dame.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
BTM dinner on January 30th.

DocBunyan ‏@DocBunyan · 16m16 minutes ago
@flugempire @Expansion_Crush ask him if big 12 will dissolve if half of members want to leave.

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @DocBunyan @Expansion_Crush
He has answered this already but I will ask again
BTM says B12 will not dissolve in total if implosion happens.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 11m11 minutes ago
@DocBunyan @Expansion_Crush Which I know is against conventional wisdom..but there are reasons for this.
Will talk later

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 37s38 seconds ago
@Expansion_Crush @DocBunyan I will make sure this question is part of the Jan 30 convo with BTM. But in past BTM has stated B12 stays
 
My view of the XII should Oklahoma leave because of the Sooners do figure out how to bolt in advance of the GOR expiring, the conference is dead because without Oklahoma, the XII offers little value to Texas and Texas will bolt because Texas only cars about Texas. P4 = ACC, B1G, PAC, & SEC. G4 = MAC, Conf USA + AAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West
  • Baylor - P4
    • ACC: Unlikely, only if the ACC takes U Texas and needs additional teams in Texas to get to 20 programs
    • B1G: None
    • PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options
    • SEC: Possible if SEC wants to get 20 and decides it needs a second program in Texas, which the state can support, that does not threaten A&M nor carry the baggage that U Texas does
  • Iowa State - G4
    • ACC: None
    • B1G: None, has Iowa
    • PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options
    • SEC: None, not going that far north
  • Kansas - P4
    • ACC: None
    • B1G: Likely depending on which way the B1G wants to expand, East versus Southwest, with Basketball, AAU status and land bridge to Oklahoma being of interest; but, will not take them if Kansas St is a requirement
    • PAC: None, B1G or SEC will take them first
    • SEC: Possible as would significantly add to SEC basketball and would pair nicely with Missouri
  • Kansas St - G4
    • ACC: None
    • B1G: None
    • PAC: Possible if the PAC wants to get to 20 programs
    • SEC: Slight possibility if the SEC wants 20 programs as they offer decent football
  • Oklahoma - P4 (guaranteed)
    • ACC: None, B1G, PAC or SEC would get there first
    • B1G: Likely depending on which way the B1G wants to expand, East versus Southwest, assuming B1G can get over AAU status and possible contiguous footprint issue (solved by adding Kansas) while adding huge football brand and makes other members (Nebraska) very happy, Oklahoma has expressed interest
    • PAC: Unlikely just because the B1G and SEC would get the Sooners first and would only go to the PAC as a package deal to get Okalahoma
    • SEC: Likely if the B1G does not add them first, would add a major football brand to the SEC and decent basketball
  • Oklahoma St - P4
    • ACC: Unlikely as PAC or SEC would get there first
    • B1G: None, even if taking Oklahoma requires that the B1G takes Oklahoma State
    • PAC: Possible as part of a package deal with other XII teams, PAC has expressed interest before
    • SEC: Likely with or without Oklahoma as the have a decent football and basketball products, opens-up a new market to the SEC and access to a deep pocketed donor
  • U Texas - P4 (guaranteed)
    • ACC: Likely if the ACC is foolish enough to offer Texas a 'ND like' deal where the Long Horns can keep the LHN
    • B1G: Possible as they match well on and off the field; but, Texas would have to learn how to play nice with others
    • PAC: Likely if no 'special' deal from the ACC is available and this option would likely allow Texas to take care of its cousin, Texas Tech, prior discussions already conformed interest
    • SEC: Unlikely as while on paper looks like a perfect match of major football powerhouses, Texas has shown it wants special treatment and Alabama, Florida, LSU won't give them such, plus A&M would likely block
    • Wildcard: Independent
  • TCU - G4
    • ACC: Unlikely, only if the ACC takes U Texas and needs additional teams in Texas to get to 20 programs
    • B1G: None
    • PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options
    • SEC: Unlikely, same as Baylor above, i.e. second Texas team with less baggage; but, Baylor offers more than TCU
  • Texas Tech - P4
    • ACC: Unlikely, only feasible if part of a package deal with U Texas
    • B1G: None, even if they are part of a package deal with U Texas
    • PAC: Likely, as part of a package deal with U Texas or with the remainders of the XII in an effort to get to 20 programs
    • SEC: None
  • West Virginia - P4
    • ACC: Likely, a backfill option should the B1G (UVA, V Tech, UNC) or SEC (V Tech, UNC, NC State, Louisville) steal a team
    • B1G: None
    • PAC: None
    • SEC: Unlikely, unless the SEC needs to backfill should a team that the B1G steals (Missouri) or if the conference expands to 20 and wants to challenge to the B1G in the Midwest (OH & PA) with a decent football brand
 
Texas, Oklahoma and maybe Okie Lite and Kansas end up in P4 if Big 12 dissolves. The rest have a 1% chance of a miracle.
 
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And now for some comic relief: Got out for lunch & had Sirius 84 on. After coming back from the break, Jack Arute asked Lou Holtz which would happen first Big XII expansion or hosting a championship game?
Dr Lou's response was expansion with Memphis-nice school, good location, nice stadium, & possibly Tulsa for keeping inside the footprint.
 
And now for some comic relief: Got out for lunch & had Sirius 84 on. After coming back from the break, Jack Arute asked Lou Holtz which would happen first Big XII expansion or hosting a championship game?
Dr Lou's response was expansion with Memphis-nice school, good location, nice stadium, & possibly Tulsa for keeping inside the footprint.

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Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2m2 minutes ago
The B12 is investigating if OU violated conference bylaws by communicating with another conference meaning they have called Boren's bluff.
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2m2 minutes ago
The B12 is investigating if OU violated conference bylaws by communicating with another conference meaning they have called Boren's bluff.
LMFAO. As if Texas, Okie State, Kansas, KSU, etc haven't reached out through backchannels to the SEC, B1G, PAC.
 
LMFAO. As if Texas, Okie State, Kansas, KSU, etc haven't reached out through backchannels to the SEC, B1G, PAC.

They 100% did in 2011 when half the conference was thinking of heading to the Pac 12.
 
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