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noeynox said:
Every time I read this stuff, I get that awful pit in my stomach, and have to remind myself it's just some star wars character in a tuxedo, or a toothless hick in his mom's basement.
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Tuxedo Yoda is one of the least credible sources out there. IMO, he's worse than The Dude, and that's saying something.
 
dayooper said:
Tuxedo Yoda is one of the least credible sources out there. IMO, he's worse than The Dude, and that's saying something.
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I hope that he is not correct in leaving UConn out of the picture. I would hope that Warde is burning up phone lines and making reservations to be in the hotel where the B12 convention is with all necessary lobbying information. If it is the last lifeboat out, UConn better be on it.
 
The prospect of Cincy & Memphis ahead of UConn in CR is truly stomach curdling if true. From BG12 perspective only thing they may have over UConn are location& idea that football matters to people in Tenn & Ohio but not so much in New England. A false assumption especially if you include TV eyeballs of NYC metro region. Memphis State over UConn....dear God wake me from this nightmare. Can the ACC or BG10 have some mercy and rescue us from the prospect of Temple becoming our biggest rival....1 day of that is 1 day too much let alone 2-3 years.
 
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Don't be so quick to dismiss Temple. We take the stairs and they take the subway. Plus they just tar and feathered Kansas.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Don't be so quick to dismiss Temple. We take the stairs and they take the subway. Plus they just tar and feathered Kansas.
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I love Temple....they are a wonderful program....but if it's UConn & Temple on an island with SMU and the other misfits...not so much.
 
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dayooper said:
Tuxedo Yoda is one of the least credible sources out there. IMO, he's worse than The Dude, and that's saying something.
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Has there ever been a non-media twitter account to break actual CR news? Chip Brown doesn't count, I think he has media credentials and is a de facto mouthpiece for UT's administration. Closest I can think of is UConnMoney though his(/her) sources didn't have the political links to predict the ACC's eventual decision.
 
buddy said:
I hope that he is not correct in leaving UConn out of the picture. I would hope that Warde is burning up phone lines and making reservations to be in the hotel where the B12 convention is with all necessary lobbying information. If it is the last lifeboat out, UConn better be on it.
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If Texas adds those teams without UConn, than they are just biding time.
If the long range goal is to save the B12 only Connecticut can help them with that.
If they really were strategic thinkers ,add Cinn, UConn, and any two of
Memphis,Temple,UCF, or BYU.


They just went from a regional to a National Conference. And doubled their potentential viewership
I don't think WVA would mind the eastern company especially their BB fans.
 
Hers a few reasons why the Big 12 would add UCONN over Cincy, Memphis and really any school being mentioned.
#1 the DMA
#2 academics - UCONN is a very high research institution with stong state backing. UConn ranks higher than any other school mentioned.
#3 it's a public school that fits the profile of other BXII schools. All other schools mentioned are largely private commuter schools with the exception of UCF. UCONN fits the mold of an ACC school IMO.
Many of the P5 schools don't deserve to be in the P5. The ones that don't deserve to be there are schools that aren't willing to make the investment necessary to be competitive. They are content to cash checks because they're grandfathered into the P5. I'm talking to you Purdue and Wake Forrest. Of the 65 P5 schools, only about 20 make a profit on their own before TV revenue is kicked in. So, somehow, the fact that UCONN would be instantly profitable gets so few mentions befuddles me. The Big Ten, ACC, & Big12 should be tripping over themselves to invite UConn.
I'm a fan of the Hoosiers and Butler Bulldogs and would LOVE to see UConn/Butler/IU games every year. I've said many times that my first preference is to see Oklahoma and Kansas to be the next members to join the Big Ten. I think it makes more sense to have those 2 because they're in the Midwest. But if the Big Ten is serious about the NE and NYC markets they shouldn't hesitate to invite UConn.
 
BTW, I've only been to Connecticut once. I stayed in the Marriott in downtown New Haven. I was surprised at how urban and populous it was. People were out walking everywhere. It's not like that in Indiana unless you're at a park or hiking trail. I had a guy ask me for a cigarette outside and he mentioned my southern drawl. Up to that day I didn't know I had a southern drawl.
 
Pretty discerning bum to recognize a southern Indiana accent. Probably dropped out from the Yale linguistics program. There's a lot of down-on-their-luck linguists in New Haven.
 
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You have to understand that we are Big 10 or worse case scenario ACC. Why would we be presenting ourselves in such a way that screams look at us Big 10 only to run off to the Big 12. I am confident that we already know where we are headed and when we are headed there. Our President and AD are way to confident and relaxed about where we are without knowing something. We aren't acting like these crazy presidents at Cincy or sugar daddies at Memphis offering their souls to get in. I think because we already know we don't have to....
 
Limbo Land said:
You have to understand that we are Big 10 or worse case scenario ACC. Why would we be presenting ourselves in such a way that screams look at us Big 10 only to run off to the Big 12. I am confident that we already know where we are headed and when we are headed there. Our President and AD are way to confident and relaxed about where we are without knowing something. We aren't acting like these crazy presidents at Cincy or sugar daddies at Memphis offering their souls to get in. I think because we already know we don't have to....
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I've had this feeling Dr. Herbst and Manuel know when and where they are going as well. However, even if that's true, if the Big 12 is the first conference to come up with an official invite, and if the Big Ten or ACC don't counter with an immediate invite, it would be hard to turn down the invite. Then the Big Ten and ACC can rue the day they ceded control of New York.
 
I think our Pres and AD know exactly where we'd be the best fit, but I don't think anything is etched in stone. We're just trying to look as good we can every day and hoping someone asks us to the prom.
 
CL82 said:
I think our Pres and AD know exactly where we'd be the best fit, but I don't think anything is etched in stone. We're just trying to look as good we can every day and hoping someone asks us to the prom.
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I don't buy it. UConn needs to be aggressive. Cannot sit by the phone waiting for prince charming to call. Must lobby and campaign. Make a sales pitch. Our AD I would hope has learned something from the Louisville AD who basically stole his lunch and ate it. If the B12 expands now and UConn positions itself for an invite, they better take it. Cannot wait a decade for another chance.
 
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Limbo Land said:
You have to understand that we are Big 10 or worse case scenario ACC. Why would we be presenting ourselves in such a way that screams look at us Big 10 only to run off to the Big 12. I am confident that we already know where we are headed and when we are headed there. Our President and AD are way to confident and relaxed about where we are without knowing something. We aren't acting like these crazy presidents at Cincy or sugar daddies at Memphis offering their souls to get in. I think because we already know we don't have to....
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It's hard not to have this feeling but good god set the date so I can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
If the Big 12 wants to continue as a member of the P-5 with no defections in the future they should go to 14 now. Add Cinci, UCONN, UCF and Memphis. It helps create the East/West division format, adds to hoops interest in big markets, and the football will be fine, us included. Going small here does not inspire confidence in the long term business model.
 
jdb50 said:
If the Big 12 wants to continue as a member of the P-5 with no defections in the future they should go to 14 now. Add Cinci, UCONN, UCF and Memphis. It helps create the East/West division format, adds to hoops interest in big markets, and the football will be fine, us included. Going small here does not inspire confidence in the long term business model.
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I know this sounds crazy, but if you are setting up east/west you take one of Cinn and Memphis, then look to Philadelphia for the 4th team.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I know this sounds crazy, but if you are setting up east/west you take one of Cinn and Memphis, then look to Philadelphia for the 4th team.
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It's not crazy. Temple would add more than Memphis to the B12.
 
Hi-Low said:
The prospect of Cincy & Memphis ahead of UConn in CR is truly stomach curdling if true. From BG12 perspective only thing they may have over UConn are location& idea that football matters to people in Tenn & Ohio but not so much in New England. A false assumption especially if you include TV eyeballs of NYC metro region. Memphis State over UConn....dear God wake me from this nightmare. Can the ACC or BG10 have some mercy and rescue us from the prospect of Temple becoming our biggest rival....1 day of that is 1 day too much let alone 2-3 years.
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Cincy is understandable, but not Memphis. I roll my eyes every time I read or hear somebody mention them like they're a full-fledged football factory when they've been more irrelevant than UConn for over half a decade prior to this season.
 
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buddy said:
I don't buy it. UConn needs to be aggressive. Cannot sit by the phone waiting for prince charming to call. Must lobby and campaign. Make a sales pitch. Our AD I would hope has learned something from the Louisville AD who basically stole his lunch and ate it. If the B12 expands now and UConn positions itself for an invite, they better take it. Cannot wait a decade for another chance.
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Buddy, the fact that Uconn is not being mentioned in any of these rumors (even as the overall biggest jewel left in the conference realignment shuffle) should be telling us all something. I doubt anyone is waiting by the phone (outside or Boneyarders), our administration has a plan and we stick to it to get us to the best situation wherever else that might be other then AAC.
 
Between Connecticut, Philly and Orlando-Tampa you add approximately 8 million tv households and 4 of the top 21 tv markets.

Cinn brings the 36th market and another 900k households.

In one bold move you add a huge number of TV sets to your conference.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Between Connecticut, Philly and Orlando-Tampa you add approximately 8 million tv households and 4 of the top 21 tv markets.

Cinn brings the 36th market and another 900k households.

In one bold move you add a huge number of TV sets to your conference.
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Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
 
Ldandy said:
Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
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Agreed with your first paragraph ... but, if the B1G and ACC are not ready yet to move, then the B12 can maximize their individual warchests and build up their attraction to future suitors by (a) finding the most lucrative additions and negotiating cut-rate deals so that everyone benefits; and (b) getting exposure for themselves in the largest national markets, hopefully building up a national following, or at least a regional following in markets held by conferences they might ultimately want to join (B1G, ACC, SEC).

Both of those are do-able with an expansion in which the adds come in as junior partners getting $4-6 mn each. This makes the conference even more unstable, but every entrant and every incumbent can get a small bump in income and exposure. If the conference is already destined to blow up, the instability is acceptable.

If UConn knows the timetable for B1G or ACC expansion is at the end of the current contracts, ca 2025, then UConn would take 10 years at $6 mn per year in the B12 as its best holding pattern.
 
Other than a potential payout from their sugar daddy, Memphis offers NOTHING to any Power conference. TN football recruiting?? Please. You can get as much recruiting exposure by playing Middle Tennessee State. Horrendous academics but the B12 doesn't care about that. Average, at best, basketball. Small market in which they file in at #3 behind Tenn and Vandy/SEC. NOTHING.

But, because we're talking about conference realignment here, I fully expect them to get a B12 invite soon because, oh man, what a kick in the sack that would be to us UCONN fans. Cinci, UCF, Memphis, and ECU to add an eastern wing.
 
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