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[CL82]

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 9h9 hours ago
Informed by my old BigEast(AAC) contact that several CUSA schools have been contacted regarding possible membership. Marshall included.

Oh my god, we are Marshall?!

 

[Marty Jackson]

People just like to blather for no reason...The Big 12 isn't dissolving.

Top 5 Athletic Departments:
Texas

Top 10
Oklahoma

Top 25
Oklahoma State
Kansas

Top 50
West Virginia
Texas Tech
Kansas State (40)
(TCU)
(Baylor)
Iowa State (50)

Connecticut (48)

Cincinnati (51)

So there are two premium properties that people would take on a non top 50 AD, but Kansas doesn't have enough sway to bring along Kansas State, and Oklahoma doesn't have to take care of Oklahoma State persay. When 6 of your teams are not very valuable, they aren't going to vote to destroy the conference which pays assloads of money.

Now when the GOR expires, well Iowa State and Texas Tech might be joining us in the AAC(k)...(please God, no...get us all out of here...)

imagine if uconn had p5 revenue streams

 

[UConn Dan]

imagine if uconn had p5 revenue streams

Yes. I would love for someone with the time to review all P5 conf team's individual revenues and then put us in each conference pulling out AAC TV/Bowl money and replacing it with each conferences TV/Bowl money to see where we would rank. I assume we would be in the top half of most conferences.

 

[Dooley]

Yes. I would love for someone with the time to review all P5 conf team's individual revenues and then put us in each conference pulling out AAC TV/Bowl money and replacing it with each conferences TV/Bowl money to see where we would rank. I assume we would be in the top half of most conferences.

I would like this too...but am FAR too lazy to put it together. UCONN jumps up into the Top 30 I would think, right?

 

[UConn Dan]

I would like this too...but am FAR too lazy to put it together. UCONN jumps up into the Top 30 I would think, right?

I would think so. We are significantly under valued in the marketplace. It's all damn politics.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Big10 - You have 18 teams instead of 16. I believe, if any conference goes to 20, it's the Big10. I think that if your scenario presents itself, Delany will grab that in a heartbeat. They would need 2 more teams to get to 20 (18 would be a mess to schedule). Who would those teams be? In a perfect scenario, the two teams would be split up between the East and West. It would allow for pods to bring back some original groupings.

Pod A: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Some Western School
Pod B: Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois
Pod C: Indiana, Michigan, MSU, OSU, Purdue
Pod D: UConn, Rutgers, PSU, UMD, Some Eastern School

The groupings would be consistent with prior arrangements and historical rivalries, at least in Pods A,B, and C. Geographically, you couldn't ask for anything better. In Pod D, you have Paterno's Eastern league started in PSU, Rutgers, and UMD. UConn fits in there very well. One other Eastern school would top it off.

Depending on who the other two teams are, this is a powerhouse of unquestioned merit in both football and basketball.

In my dream, I'm waking up right when Kate Upton and Marilyn Monroe are trying to seduce me.

The wildcard there is with the access to Texas and the Northeast, would ND finally suck it up and be that 20th team in the B1G. Imagine that. ND would be the 5th team in the Eastern Pod. The football schedule would be 4 pod games, 3 (1 against rotating cross division games and then an 8th game that would be a conference semi-final for the 4 pod leaders and an additional cross-over for everyone else. That allows for each team to still have 3 non-conf games and a championship game.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 @MH ver3 · 1h 1 hour ago
Interesting...not to be outdone by Memphis, BYU offering to join B12 in football, keep espn deal till next tv contract, and only take bowl$?

 

[TerryD]

The wildcard there is with the access to Texas and the Northeast, would ND finally suck it up and be that 20th team in the B1G. Imagine that. ND would be the 5th team in the Eastern Pod. The football schedule would be 4 pod games, 3 (1 against rotating cross division games and then an 8th game that would be a conference semi-final for the 4 pod leaders and an additional cross-over for everyone else. That allows for each team to still have 3 non-conf games and a championship game.

It would be better than the current Big Ten, that is for sure.

But, just a fan's opinion here, I doubt ND would want anything to do with even this Frankenstein of a Big Ten.

Where is the playing of games in the Southeast for recruiting exposure?

Eight games is too many, not leaving room for series with other conferences (games against schools like FSU, Miami, Georgia, Arizona State, , the Navy game and the Southern Cal and Stanford games for West Coast exposure).

It would still be putting ND under the thumb of the Big Ten, which ND has struggled mightily to avoid. I don't think ND would join it.

There are also the small matters of the ACC GOR, the ACC exit fee and the contract that says that if ND is forced to join any conference for football before 2027, it has to be the ACC.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

This more of an olympic sport issue and not football, correct?

Obviously, gridiron games are not an issue for BYU as so few college games are scheduled on Sundays. Yes, it's primarily an issue for other sports (men and women) and not just possible NCAA tourney hoop games. The further a school travels, the more often 2 games are scheduled, e.g., Friday night and Sunday afternoon. Maybe not a limiting factor looking forward, but it's certainly been cited as a past issue for BYU.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 9h9 hours ago
Informed by my old BigEast(AAC) contact that several CUSA schools have been contacted regarding possible membership. Marshall included.

Well, isn't that special?

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It would be better than the current Big Ten, that is for sure.

But, just a fan's opinion here, I doubt ND would want anything to do with even this Frankenstein of a Big Ten.

Where is the playing of games in the Southeast for recruiting exposure?

Eight games is too many, not leaving room for series with other conferences (games against schools like FSU, Miami, Georgia, Arizona State, , the Navy game and the Southern Cal and Stanford games for West Coast exposure).

It would still be putting ND under the thumb of the Big Ten, which ND has struggled mightily to avoid. I don't think ND would join it.

There are also the small matters of the ACC GOR, the ACC exit fee and the contract that says that if ND is forced to join any conference for football before 2027, it has to be the ACC.

I agree that ND will only join a conference if it has no other way to ensure itself a path to the football playoffs and that the ACC is ND's preferred destination. Thus, assuming that ND does have to join a conference, would a B1G with members in the Northeast and Texas plus lower Olympic Sport travel costs as ND can take a bus to schools in IL, IN, OH, and MI than the ACC (assuming they West Virginia, Cincinnati and another school or two)? ND's football team would get 2 east coast games a year (alternating home/away games with Penn St, Maryland, Rutgers, and UConn), and an opportunity to play 1 game every other year in the south central (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska) and still have 3 to 4 (assumes an 8 game league schedule) open slots for it's rivalry games with Navy, USC, etc.

Pods
East: 1) Maryland, 2) ND, 3) Penn St, 4) Rutgers, 5) UConn
North: 1) Indiana, 2) Michigan, 3) Michigan St, 4) Ohio St, 5) Purdue
West: 1) Illinois, 2) Iowa, 3) Minnesota, 4) Northwestern, 5) Wisconsin
South: 1) Kansas, 2) Missouri, 3) Nebraska, 4) Oklahoma, 5) Texas

Each team schedule: 4x Pod games, 3x cross-pod games with 1 from each pod, 1x 'open' game with pod leaders playing each other (semi-final) & everyone else assigned, 1x optional conference champion game for 2 teams (semi-final winners) = 8 league games, 3 or 4 OCC games.

As for the contract, it's ND, I am sure there is a loophole or an out clause in the ACC contract somewhere just based on the experience that the Big E had with ND.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Intra-state political issues with KState, but which philosophical differences do you perceive between KU and the SEC?

It's the south for one. Lawrence, KS is not the south. B1G would work just fine. SEC? No. (this is my take a native of KS, 4 generations back and a graduate of the school).

 

[HuskyJ]

Notre Dame isn’t joining any conference until it gets screwed. And Notre Dame’s a screwdriver, NEVER a screw.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

It's the south for one. Lawrence, KS is not the south. B1G would work just fine. SEC? No. (this is my take a native of KS, 4 generations back and a graduate of the school).

Fair enough, but that's more geographic and cultural than a philosphical difference.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Fair enough, but that's more geographic and cultural than a philosphical difference.

See history on Bleeding Kansas. Lawrence was the center of it. I think it would take an awful lot for KU to join the SEC, not impossible, but not likely.

 

[pj]

See history on Bleeding Kansas. Lawrence was the center of it. I think it would take an awful lot for KU to join the SEC, not impossible, but not likely.

All it would take is the SEC to offer and the B1G to refuse an offer.

But, the B1G is more likely to offer Kansas than the SEC, so ... they'll be in the B12 or B1G. Remote chance at the Pac.

 

[ZooCougar]

It's the south for one. Lawrence, KS is not the south. B1G would work just fine. SEC? No. (this is my take a native of KS, 4 generations back and a graduate of the school).

The only things that could pull KU to the SEC is money, Mizzou and Kentucky.

 

[NickyNewark]

See history on Bleeding Kansas. Lawrence was the center of it. I think it would take an awful lot for KU to join the SEC, not impossible, but not likely.

Jayhawks vs Redlegs history?Quantrill? raiders I assume!?! Interesting bloody history. I think Lawrence was headquarters?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Jayhawks vs Redlegs history?Quantrill? raiders I assume!?! Interesting bloody history. I think Lawrence was headquarters?

Yes. There is a reason the brewery in Lawrence is called the Free State Brewery. Still Zoo Cougar is right that with no other options, they'd consider the SEC. But that won't happen.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 @MH ver3 · 1h 1 hour ago
Heard today that if B12 gets a waiver for CCG it will only be used with 10 teams for 2015-after that they plan to be larger

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 43m43 minutes ago
B12 likely lost $14 million by being snubbed in the playoffs this year

Robert Brandi ‏@BYUBuff 37m37 minutes ago
@MH ver3 that's a $14 million loss they don't have to share with more teams. You know what they say about Karma.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 34m34 minutes ago
@BYUBuff So by not having a CCG and not making the playoffs the B12 may have actually lost $ or at the least broken even vs having 2 more

MH ver3 @MH ver3 · 45m 45 minutes ago
Not to mention CCG revenue we could have-appx $20 million from FOX or ESPN and an additional $5 million from Jerry

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 39m39 minutes ago
FOX has pledged to rework the B12 contract if the additions can increase the conference's national footprint by 1 timezone and at least 25%

Sean F Hosley ‏@sfhosley 38m38 minutes ago
@MH ver3 25% in miles or people?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 37m37 minutes ago
@sfhosley tv sets

rip van winkle ‏@ripvdub 22m22 minutes ago
@MH ver3 Florida...

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
@ripvdub florida would add nearly 8 million more so there is value there. Ohio adds about 4 million more and thats appx what they need

rip van winkle ‏@ripvdub 17m17 minutes ago
@MH ver3 Now that they are actually in and playing games, no one really cares that Maryland and Rutgers suck in FB. #B1G

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 14m14 minutes ago
@ripvdub the brand elevates the team. We witnessed this when the New BigEast elevated Louisville, USF, and cincy

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 27m27 minutes ago
Big12 currently has a footprint of a paltry 16 million tv households. So any additions will have to add at least 4 million more

Lawrence Ewaldt ‏@ProfsrChaos 25m25 minutes ago
@MH ver3 #UCF & #USF TV markets combine to be ranked 4th in the nation = win

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 23m23 minutes ago
@ProfsrChaos sets by state. Not just Markets

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 22m22 minutes ago
@ProfsrChaos although WVU gets credit for more than the .8 million households in our state thanks to some overlap in DC and PA

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 22m22 minutes ago
@ProfsrChaos the same is true for the Kansas schools and the overlap in Missouri

MH ver3‏@MH ver3 26m26 minutes ago
The extra timezone gives Fox an extra slot to put a B12 match-up in every other week.

Alex ‏@AlexAmend08 25m25 minutes ago
@MH ver3 so..what combination with byu gets the b12 to the 25% footprint increase?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
@AlexAmend08 BYU brings about 1 million(not nationally-just state and market) so realistically florida, ohio, NC, NY/NJ metro, Tenn

 

[pj]

So UCF gets credit for all of Florida, Cincy for all of Ohio, WVU for West Virginia, DC, and Pennsylvania?

If these are really the metrics Fox is looking at, then UConn has to rank highly.

 

[amory]

So UCF gets credit for all of Florida, Cincy for all of Ohio, WVU for West Virginia, DC, and Pennsylvania?

If these are really the metrics Fox is looking at, then UConn has to rank highly.

We probably don't even get credit for all of CT, let alone the boston/NY metro areas.

 

[Durks07]

We probably don't even get credit for all of CT, let alone the boston/NY metro areas.

You are probably correct. According to the 10 Commandments of Realignment, #1-#6 are: If it kicks UConn in the nuts, then it is best for realignment purposes. Thy will be done, Amen.

 

[Stinger92860]

We probably don't even get credit for all of CT, let alone the boston/NY metro areas.

Tampa is 1.822M households and Orlando is 1.472, both sizable top 20 markets. Together that's about 3.3M which would trail only Chicago, LA and NYC.

Hartford-New Haven is .968M, Fairfield county approximately .380M and Springfield is .258M for a total of approximately 1.6M. Easily a top 20 market.

Taken together in one fell swoop, the B12 could add 4.9M households. Almost the equivalent of adding Los Angeles overnight. It would be a bold move. It would a lot of sense if they had a conference network, like the BTN.

Edit: removed typos, sorry, but typing with one hand due to rotator surgery

 

[pj]

Tampa is 1.822M households and Orlando is 1.472, both sizable top 20 markets. Together that's about 3.3M which would trail only Chicago, LA and NYC.

Hartford-New Haven is .968M, Fairfield county approximately .380M and Springfield is .258M for a total of approximately 1.6M. Easily a top 20 market.

Taken together in one fell swoop, the B12 could add 4.9M households. Almost the equivalent of adding Los Angeles overnight. It would be a bold move. It would a lot of sense if they had a conference network, like the BTN.

Edit: removed typos, sorry, but typing with one hand due to rotator surgery

Why take USF and UCF both? USF's market of Tampa is mostly retirees without local athletic allegiances. UCF would provide 80% of the USF-UCF combo.

But I agree, if it is TV households you want, UConn and UCF or BYU would be the way to go. UConn, UCF, BYU, Cincy if you go to 14 gets you in the 5 million household range.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
http://foxct.com/2014/12/11/uconn-receives-select-designation-for-healthcare-research/ based on investments that the taxpayers made in NextGen CT and Bioscience CT, we were able to bring in and retain....

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
.... "the very best faculty and compete for this major designation. We join an elite group of only 11 universities across North America"..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
..."including John’s Hopkins, Vanderbilt, and Brown who have these premier evidence synthesis groups."

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
http://foxct.com/2014/12/11/uconn-receives-select-designation-for-healthcare-research/… "will generate substantial funding for researchers, and raises the national visibility of University of Connecticut"

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
UCONN designation Evidence-based Practice Center is something which will be glossed over by 99% of those interested in the politics of...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
...Conference Realignment/ Conference Expansion. But it should be paid attention by all who is interested. A couple months I tweeted about..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
...the huge 1.5B financial backing the state of CT was giving to its flagship university in terms of expanding its research portfolio....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
I also have been tweeting about how Delany is still East...creating and building relationships. MSG will be holding B1G Basketball Tourney..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
...and having B1G Hockey at MSG in 2018 and beyond. Delany is spreading the brand of Coca Cola....er....I mean the Big Ten out East.

g Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
What makes the Big 10 Presidents stand up and take notice? Not college basketball championships....nor Football....Wrestling...Hockey..ect..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
Its about what a University can do to expand and grow the economic engine of the Big 10 universities.....RSEARCH. The championships are...

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
...important to the Athletic Directors...Fan bases....and yes, it does have some direct influence on the universities budget and economy.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
The Big 10 is going to expand again...why? Because all organizations expand if it brings in more money, influence, power and stability.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
The Big 10 in the short term had to once again give up some of its today's dollars (BTN $) give to Rutgers & UMD to cushion blow.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
The Big 10 is not interested in what it can harvest for todays crops. The Big 10 wants to buy more land and bigger plows and what not.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3h 3 hours ago
The Big 10 Presidents scoreboard is Research Dollars and potential Research Dollars. Delany will not put forward a school to the Prez.....

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
...unless the scoreboard looks good. UCONN just lit up the scoreboard today. I'm not predicting or saying UCONN to the Big 10 in 2019.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@expansion_crush 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire Maybe in time for the 2018 tournament?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@expansion_crush I don't think so, but a lot of it depends on the B1G new 2017 teir 1 TV contract...what that actually does to landscape.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
@expansion_crush I don't think so, but a lot of it depends on the B1G new 2017 teir 1 TV contract...what that actually does to landscape.

CTMike ‏@CTMike78 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire hopefully your tweets open a few minds. Thanks.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 I think my tweets bore people to death. Big Ten Presidents loved the research $ of RUT and UMD beyond all other variables.........

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 Delany only put forward RUT & UMD as candidates for votes in expansion. Delany worked out a few other scenarios....but....

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 ...he only put forward the combo he knew the Presidents who vote %100 yes on. UCONN is turning into a Big 10 flagship research...

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 ...institution. This is much important to the 100 years commitment to the goals and ideals of the Big 10 than championships.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 I don't think many people outside of CT knows whats going on at UCONN. But its significant. UCONN is using their advantages...

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@CTMike78 ...as being the only true major college in the state...to raise its research dramatically. Big 10 Presidents love this profile.

junglehusky ‏@junglehusky 3h3 hours ago
.@flugempire tweets are like hot dogs. Dunno where they come from, but damn they are addictive comfort food for #UConn fans

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@junglehusky I don't tweet stuff out to comfort anyone. UCONN still has hurdles it really can't do much about....but this is a big deal.

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
Remember when Delany said Penn St was a bridge to the inclusion of Rutgers & Maryland. Then Delany said Maryland will someday be a bridge..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
wel.....http://trainingcenter.umaryland.edu/Pages/The-Evidence-Based-Practice-Center.aspx…. Maryland is one of the 11 universities who have the Evidence Based Pratice Center....and now does UCONN

 

[Dooley]

I don't know who Greg Flugaur is, but at the very least, he is definitely giving us a bit of hope.

 

[don356]

Delaney better spend some time figuring out why the majority of teams in the big 10 are below 50 in the rankings. You can have all the tv's you want to but if you want them on you need better football.

 

[Dooley]

Delaney better spend some time figuring out why the majority of teams in the big 10 are below 50 in the rankings. You can have all the tv's you want to but if you want them on you need better football.

Not for nothing, but the B1G is represented in the Playoff. Ask the B12 how they feel about their football right now.

 

[Stinger92860]

Why take USF and UCF both? USF's market of Tampa is mostly retirees without local athletic allegiances. UCF would provide 80% of the USF-UCF combo.

But I agree, if it is TV households you want, UConn and UCF or BYU would be the way to go. UConn, UCF, BYU, Cincy if you go to 14 gets you in the 5 million household range.

I believe the premise was take UCF and get both the Orlando and Tampa markets.