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[TheCatsLair]

Is that true? I thought Marinato resigned immediately when the Big East was dropped from the power structure. Even still, they were not dropped because of anything Aresco did.

He was, the Big East was only a BCS conference when Aresco took over because they were playing out the BCS contract. Aresco couldn't do anything to keep the Big East a power conference.

 

[TheCatsLair]

Disagree. The Big East was BCS conference when Aresco took over the helm. So its pier organizations were not such the current G5, but were the current P5. Aresco was at the helm when it was relegated.

That is only telling part of the story. They were only peers because the BCS contract had not expired yet. To say that Aresco had a power conference slot and lost it because of mismanagement is not true at all. The Big East lost its AQ status in April of 2012, Aresco took over as Commissioner in August of that year, four months later. So how is it his fault?

Bye Bye AQ Status

 

[CL82]

That is only telling part of the story. They were only peers because the BCS contract had not expired yet. To say that Aresco had a power conference slot and lost it because of mismanagement is not true at all. The Big East lost its AQ status in April of 2012, Aresco took over as Commissioner in August of that year, four months later. So how is it his fault?

Bye Bye AQ Status

I didn't say it was his fault. What I said was we were a peer conference to the P5. Comparing us to the G5 without acknowledging that is misleading.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

All true, but none of that supports Aresco as being a quality president, in fact just the opposite. He never created a situation in which it was desirable to be in that conference. Now, if you were asserting that his attention was only to create "a waystation" I think you are revising history.

He showed up to a situation where he had absolutely no leverage. NONE, and everyone knew it. He may not have made lemonade out of lemons, but he didn't make p p either. I think he has done a fine job under the circumstances.

 

[Jimdish255]

So every conference is a failure except Big and SEC?
Saying Aresxo failed is so dumb.
The AAC became the defacto 6th best league. He got the first non P5 school to the playoffs.

What else could that guy do? It’s not his fault UConn’s time in his league paralleled a football divestment and a tailspin by the basketball program.

Had Ucon been in BE for basketball those same years, I doubt things would have been different.

The networks and the conference membership ultimately decided who was worth what. No batch of statistics or dog and pony presentations would have changed that. Winning might have changed that for us, but we went old school and and floundered, then went PT Barnum and RE2 and fell off a cliff. Bad timing and not enough friends in the club. Are we ultimately worth a lot? Seems that way but there's always that networking you have to be good at.

 

[CL82]

He showed up to a situation where he had absolutely no leverage. NONE, and everyone knew it. He may not have made lemonade out of lemons, but he didn't make p p either. I think he has done a fine job under the circumstances.

No, he was the hotshot CBS Sports executive who had the expertise to get us a great deal... that never materialized.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

No, he was the hotshot CBS Sports executive who had the expertise to get us a great deal... that never materialized.

You weren't looking for a commissioner. You were looking for a miracle worker. That wasn't in the jon description.

 

[Bongo Fury]

No, he was the hotshot CBS Sports executive who had the expertise to get us a great deal... that never materialized.

It was a decent conference performance Wise . The networks had already paid up for prime time P5. I imagine he got the best of G5 but really did not have leverage to do much better. Will be interesting to see what the PAC gets. Will they be satisfied? Or are they thinking they should have and are worth more?

 

[huskymedic]

 

[CL82]

You weren't looking for a commissioner. You were looking for a miracle worker. That wasn't in the jon description.

No, I was looking for someone who could actually do the job successfully. By any metric whatsoever Aresco did not.

 

[ScottVib]

No, I was looking for someone who could actually do the job successfully. By any metric whatsoever Aresco did not.

Where I think Aresco failed, was not recognizing the degree to which the basketball schools were against the final few 'football' members. They were good (although not thrilled) with the UCF, Memphis, SMU, Houston all sports additions. Then started to panic with Tulane coming in for all sports (replacing Rutgers) and were apoplectic about the thought of ECU (and the shift from Louisville's RPI to ECU).

Ultimately the split worked out for the best for everyone, except UConn... Rule #1 of conference realignment at work.

 

[CL82]

Where I think Aresco failed, was not recognizing the degree to which the basketball schools were against the final few 'football' members. They were good (although not thrilled) with the UCF, Memphis, SMU, Houston all sports additions. Then started to panic with Tulane coming in for all sports (replacing Rutgers) and were apoplectic about the thought of ECU (and the shift from Louisville's RPI to ECU).

Ultimately the split worked out for the best for everyone, except UConn... Rule #1 of conference realignment at work.

Largely agree. I'm not sure that Aresco gets any credit for the fact that institutions are doing better because they left the American.

 

[Slasher]

Now Pac-12 mouthpiece is touting Memphis because he's trying protect his precious Pac-12. What a joke. Memphis is not close to additive to Big 12.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Aresco was just kind of there as commissioner. He was not the reason that the American was so disastrous for UConn. The American was a terrible fit for UConn, which everyone should have been able to see before it happened.

I kind of agree with @businesslawyer that a commissioner can only run the organization he has. There is a meaningful possibility that the SEC and Big 10 Commissioners are making huge mistakes right now but everyone thinks they are brilliant because those two leagues happen to be sitting on big TV contracts.

 

[huskymedic]

McFeely: AAC commissioner says NDSU football 'outstanding,' but mum on Bison's chances of joining league

With more college conference realignment likely and some at NDSU wanting to move, Mike Aresco says American Athletic Conference has 'strength in numbers' and has 'no expansion plans at the moment'

www.inforum.com

-> FARGO — American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco made clear multiple times that he was not referring to any specific schools during our phone conversation last week, that he was only speaking in generalities. I requested an interview with Aresco to discuss the longshot possibility of North Dakota State joining the AAC in the next round of college conference realignment and the affable Aresco agreed, with the understanding that he wouldn't answer questions specifically about NDSU.

"We don't discuss teams that might have an interest in our conference and where the interest might be reciprocated," Aresco said. "That said, I will say this: They have an outstanding program at the FCS level and it's been shown that FCS schools can move up and be successful in FBS. That's been shown by multiple schools. James Madison, Coastal Carolina, Appalachian State a few years ago. "You've got a nice football program up there." <-

-> That's a lot of "mights" to a moonshot scenario that already includes a ton of "ifs" and "buts," but if NDSU wants to move from the Football Championship Subdivision to the higher level FBS, the AAC is one of only a few leagues that would be a possibility. The Mountain West Conference and Conference USA would be others. Joining the AAC seems the most remote.

For what it's worth, Bison head coach Matt Entz is on the record advocating for a spot in the AAC. "Just in terms of football, I think our best fit is the American," Entz told The Athletic web site in January. "From a geographical standpoint, there are (four) in Texas, plus Tulsa. Those are in the Central time zone and (others are) in the East, so it would fit for our fans and TV. From a travel standpoint, flying to Dallas is just as fast as Youngstown or Macomb, Illinois." <-

-> On whether the conference would consider adding another football-only member, Aresco responds: “It's not something we would rule out by any means. You don't rule out anything, but right now we are focused on our incoming schools and we really don't have any expansion plans at the moment. But you never know." <-

 

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[drayenob]

Pac 12 media rights: Is the conference network going direct-to-consumer (D2C)? Latest update and rumors surrounding the deal and expansion news

After months of negotiations over a new media rights deal, it looks like Pac-12 won’t strike an agreement with any television network.

www.sportskeeda.com

 

[TheCatsLair]

I didn't say it was his fault. What I said was we were a peer conference to the P5. Comparing us to the G5 without acknowledging that is misleading.

But being "peer" conferences when you only have two years left is ignoring the fact that the only benefit in that is money. You can't build a recruiting class or a reputation when you're not truly a peer conference after being publicly stripped of your status amd only maintaining it in order to run out a contract. And make no mistake, once the AQ status was taken away it was pretty much common knowledge that the Big East wasn't going to get invited to the new club.

 

[GoKU]

Now Pac-12 mouthpiece is touting Memphis because he's trying protect his precious Pac-12. What a joke. Memphis is not close to additive to Big 12.

Memphis is not even being considered lol. That dude is a joke.

 

[CL82]

But being "peer" conferences when you only have two years left is ignoring the fact that the only benefit in that is money. You can't build a recruiting class or a reputation when you're not truly a peer conference after being publicly stripped of your status amd only maintaining it in order to run out a contract. And make no mistake, once the AQ status was taken away it was pretty much common knowledge that the Big East wasn't going to get invited to the new club.

I'm not so sure that things were as certain as you seem to believe in hindsight. Aresco failed therefore there was no way for him to succeed isn't an argument, it's an excuse. His supposed expertise was in media deals and yet the American was barely earning more for all sports than the Big East was for basketball only. That's hardly a testament to his negotiating acumen.

 

[huskypantz]

Pac 12 media rights: Is the conference network going direct-to-consumer (D2C)? Latest update and rumors surrounding the deal and expansion news

After months of negotiations over a new media rights deal, it looks like Pac-12 won’t strike an agreement with any television network.

www.sportskeeda.com

CW, ION and streaming. If that’s not a steaming pile of poo I don’t know what is.

 

[CL82]

CW, ION and streaming. If that’s not a steaming pile of poo I don’t know what is.

Hey, being the lead in for the CW's Flash is a big responsibility!

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I'm not so sure that things were as certain as you seem to believe in hindsight. Aresco failed therefore there was no way for him to succeed isn't an argument, it's an excuse. His supposed expertise was in media deals and yet the American was barely earning more for all sports than the Big East was for basketball only. That's hardly a testament to his negotiating acumen.

Every team I. His conference was begging for a P5 invite when he arrived. What leverage did he have?

 

[CL82]

Every team I. His conference was begging for a P5 invite when he arrived. What leverage did he have?

For a television contract? His supposed area of competence? Content, pretty much like everyone else. Again, it's always easier to come up with excuses for failure than strategies for success. You seem content with the former.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

For a television contract? His supposed area of competence? Content, pretty much like everyone else. Again, it's always easier to come up with excuses for failure than strategies for success. You seem content with the former.

I am content with my rational grasp of reality. Why would a network pay top dollar for games from a conference when no one knew which teams would be in the conference the following year? All content isn't equal.

Apparently he was so bad at his job the university presidents have refused to replace him. I guess they are in the same boat of contentment I am riding. But, OK.