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UCFanInSC said:
It was I that suggested that. I'd love to see UConn in a league with Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Wake and the other leftovers from the ACC. That would be much better than the AAC.
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I agree. We already left the AAC though. I still don't think the current Big East teams would want to join a hybrid football/basketball conference.
 
NowInStorrs said:
I agree. We already left the AAC though. I still don't think the current Big East teams would want to join a hybrid football/basketball conference.
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I think they would. Bigger is probably better for streaming/television contracts, at least to a point.
 
college football fan@Genetics56 · 53m
Rick Reilly in the Washington Post reported today that the Big Ten will pay Notre Dame $65 million more than the present NBC contract. That's roughly $80 million per year.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 11m
Pete Thamal is reporitng that talks between the Pac 12 and Big 12 are dead. Fricken idiots.
 
MH ver3@MH ver3 · 33m
I have not heard that talks were completely dead but if B12 pulled the plug on them then that’s bad news for wazzu and the beav. That means B12 is going to carve up the PAC and take the best.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 21m
Called my source. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). Talks are indeed dead for a merger.A few tidbits I did get:

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
Replying to @MH ver3
B12 held all the cards.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
Media $$ just wasn’t there to justify a full merger.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
My source fully expects at least 2 schools to get an offer from B12 by the end of the first week of August. AZ and Colorado are the ones most likely.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
B12 could invite 4-6 in total depending on what happens and how it happens. But my source is pretty confident we at least invite those 2.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
Those 2 with their tv markets will increase the payout per school. Adding Utah and AZSU are revenue negative/neutral but…

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 23m
Adding those two with Washington/Oregon make the entire 6 revenue positive for all so literally the ball will be in their court.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 23m
If WA/OR balk then we may take the other 2 anyway, take the slight hit in revenue, and then WA/OR are stuck until ACC/B1G get around to maybe offering them.

SawyerBrown94@RChalk94 · 5m
Replying to @MH ver3
So what’s the plan for Washington State, Oregon State, Cal and Stanford??? If I was their leadership things look pretty bleak now

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4m
I’ve heard Stanford may forge independent. Cal may drop football, some D1 sports/all D1 sports (no one really knows). And MWC may get picked clean.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 14m
The way things have been moving, Colorado might announce earlier than AZ and may even do it before the PAC/espn negotiating window closes…allegedly all it will take is a formal offer from B12.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 7m
But don’t look for any official invitations to come until Yormark officially takes office. Bowlsby has pretty much said as much.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4m
MWC won’t be a winner with no B12/PAC merger. PAC will gut MWC because they would still have autonomy and have the brand name. Maybe they will work out a merger ‍♂️

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3m
Don’t be shocked if OR/WA stay put and just backfill the PAC-to-B12 defections with MWC and does some type of unequal revenue sharing while they hope for an invite from B1G.

Allan@Allan_Janus ·3m
Replying to @MH ver3
Does AZ try and drag it’s feet so that ASU can come as well, or is that line of thinking gone now as other states haven’t show that type of loyalty?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 1m
Not sure. AZ was valued out as the more lucrative option despite AZSU superior football team and ratings. I’m not really sure why honestly. I want them both to come.
 
MH ver3@MH ver3 · 34m
I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 35m
Replying to @MH ver3
So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. Would need to probably add 6.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 35m
Most valuable 6 left of G5 (in PAC footprint-I’m omitting the eastern ones) according to valuations B12 had done

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 35m
SDSU, SMU, Boise (football only), Fresno, UNLV, New Mexico. Maybe add Gonzaga in basketball for the slight revenue bump that would give since they draw a National audience.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 36m
B12 just last year considered adding Boise/Gonzaga as partial members in that same set up.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 32m
Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC.

Stephen Dodd@spdodd74 · 22m
Replying to @MH ver3
Any word on the meeting between Yormark and Phil Knight?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 18m
Yes. I’m about to tweet it.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 28m
Rumor: I havent confirmed it but I just heard AZ and Utah are meeting with their executive board on Wednesday and that’s the same day Colorado is having yet another closed executive session to discuss conference affiliation.

Exorcist of Stupidity@JamieExorcistof · 17m
Replying to @MH ver3
one of the best inside Arizona sources was on 365 sports today and confirmed that right now Arizona is on track to be a member of the Big 12 by 2026. He also said Colorado has the jump on everyone as they've already had 3 executive meetings for conference Athletics. The odd thi..

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 15m
Because AZST is not in a drivers seat to do anything. Sadly they may not get a B12 offer. I hope they do though!

Exorcist of Stupidity@JamieExorcistof · 11m
This is a great point! Jason Scheer said the two schools tend to do stuff together, but two different cultures. Arizona Tuscon is college town. ASU has all professional sports of Phoenix. He said Arizona would leave ASU behind. You're right. They might be last to join or left out

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 22m
Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming.




college football fan@Genetics56 · 53m
RIP Pac 12.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 40m
It's anyone's guess these days of what will happen outside of the Big Ten and SEC. With the news tonight we will not be getting a large third conference to house the left overs. IMO, some schools will end up at places like the Moutain West and AAC.
 
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college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
One thing he mentioned is that NBC doesn't want Notre Dame football to be an orphan, hence the drive to have a game around a Notre Dame football game.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 55m
Also, unequal revenue sharing is likely to come to the ACC....it's one of the other things he mentioned. I know there is a tweet out there he said that about the Pac, but it's the ACC he was talking about. It's why I dig for facts.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 24m
Quick recap on today's "intel": Big Ten doesn't want Oregon and Washington. ACC may add members. Unequal revenue sharing in ACC may happen (obviously means renegotiated TV deal). Sankey "no conf. will stay at 17". NBC part of TV deal may mean ND to Big Ten (Thamel).

college football fan@Genetics56 · 16m
If Oregon and Washington end up in the ACC, their football recruiting will go to trash. They would be isolated out of the most populated regions out west for recruiting purposes. It would be castration.


Jason Scheer@jasonscheer · 5h
Pete Thamel saying that if Oregon and Washington stay in the Pac-12, there will be unequal revenue sharing. If that's the case, any school president that agrees to that should rethink their position in athletics.
 
Side comment, I've always felt guys like Stew Mandel represent the classic old school media that programs use to circulate disinformation. You dont send dis info through the young/new/unknown reporter, you find the old school guy that will be more than happy to send out a little misdirection. Just saying.
 
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college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
Also, they said USC doesn't want Oregon in the Big Ten.
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USC Old Money Influence > Oregon Phil Knight Nouveau Riche
 
Jim Phillips, ACC commissioner speaks this morning at ACC meeting...OOPS !

From transcript...

"So I know where our 17 — or our 15 schools are. We are really aligned to try to find some solutions to that revenue gap, but it can’t be at the expense of all the other things that we’re doing. So there’s I think a really good plan for us as we move ahead. Again, considering all of are our options. In these kinds of times you have to do that. This is unique what’s happened over the last 12 months."

Q. 17 schools?

JIM PHILLIPS: That was an error. 15 schools. Sorry about that. Thinking about your expansion number. (Laughter).
 
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billybud said:
Jim Phillips, ACC commissioner speaks this morning at ACC meeting...OOPS !

From transcript...

"So I know where our 17 — or our 15 schools are. We are really aligned to try to find some solutions to that revenue gap, but it can’t be at the expense of all the other things that we’re doing. So there’s I think a really good plan for us as we move ahead. Again, considering all of are our options. In these kinds of times you have to do that. This is unique what’s happened over the last 12 months."

Q. 17 schools?

JIM PHILLIPS: That was an error. 15 schools. Sorry about that. Thinking about your expansion number. (Laughter).
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Their "really good plan" is to ask ESPN to pay them both more money than they're getting and more money than they're worth. It's equivalent to my "really good plan" for sleeping with Brooklyn Decker.
 
college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
Jim Phillips is failing, IMO, today to answer some tough questions. It's NOT the job of the Big Ten and SEC to make sure all conferences are healthy. It's not like that in the business world either. It's called competetion.



college football fan@Genetics56 · 1h
I understand Jim Philips has to say certain things for various reasons, but that was a very poor speech today. The ACC should, though, be allowed to try and make things work, but if the members decide to "close the conference" then it is what it is.
 
businesslawyer said:
Their "really good plan" is to ask ESPN to pay them both more money than they're getting and more money than they're worth. It's equivalent to my "really good plan" for sleeping with Brooklyn Decker.
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If you’re going to ask Brooklyn Decker to pay you for sleeping with her, please, I’m begging you, get someone to video it and post it to The Boneyard. The Boneyard glory will be well worth the blackeye and inevitable TRO you will get.
 
CAtlantic said:
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www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

SBJ College: Are Notre Dame football media rights undervalued?

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

->How much could Notre Dame command? Take the SEC’s most recent deal as an example. ESPN took CBS’s package and will pay the conference $300 million annually for 15 football games and eight men’s basketball games. Those aren’t just any games -- they are the first pick of games each week throughout the football season.

That’s an average of close to $20 million for each of 15 top-shelf games. If Notre Dame got the $75 million it seeks, that would be a little over $10 million each telecast as part of a seven-game home games. The Fighting Irish should be asking for more. <-
 
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I understand why Swofford did it, and in truth it is the only thing keeping the ACC together, but that GOR way past the SEC and B1G renegotiating their deals is really an albatross for them. Had they done it for a few years past those leagues windows, maybe they could have squeezed more money for themselves in the near future. With them being locked in till 2036, why would ESPN offer them more money? Even the PAC and Big 12 redo their deals before then no?
 
businesslawyer said:
Their "really good plan" is to ask ESPN to pay them both more money than they're getting and more money than they're worth. It's equivalent to my "really good plan" for sleeping with Brooklyn Decker.
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BL,

I imagine that you could come up with a far better plan for your goal than what the ACC is currently devising for theirs. That said, I am fully confident that neither you nor the ACC can pull it off.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
BL,

I imagine that you could come up with a far better plan for your goal than what the ACC is currently devising for theirs. That said, I am fully confident that neither you nor the ACC can pull it off.
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Define "good." Does drugging and kidnapping count?
 
MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2h
So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. My source can confirm Colorado is. I’ll update as I get more info. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 1h
Guys, I’m still hearing from@multiple sources that there is a meeting for AZ tonight. And Utah as well. ‍♂️ super secret squirrel shit?

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 53m
I hate to throw cold water on any rumor but the ACC schools can’t just vote to dissolve their GOR without voiding their current tv deal. It would also take more than 8 votes to do it.



Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 4h
While having 8 ACC schools vote to dissolve conf is an extreme long shot play it’s inaccurate to portray this scenario as narrowly as having it require 8 ACC schools to be invited to Big Ten & SEC.

In 3 yrs new Big 12 media contract May look compelling to couple ACC schools.




college football fan@Genetics56 · 2h
Kevin Warren the last two years.... big accomplishments

1: Conference expansion with USC and UCLA
2: Derailed the college football playoff to force an open bid process.
3: Soon to be signed billion dollar lucrative media rights deal and a new in-house multimedia rights


college football fan@Genetics56 · 2h
Up next....

1: A signed billion dollar annual media rights deal
2: Stanford + Notre Dame to the Big Ten
3: A new position on the college football playoff

Under Kevin Warren the Big Ten Conference left it's 100+ year history footprint and became national.
 
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MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
Baylor Athletic Director Mack Rhoades: "If you don’t act, you’re going to get acted upon. Right now, the Big 12, we’re in this process of trying to act rather than the opposite."

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
Big12 quietly approaching full consensus on drafting and signing their next GOR. Trying to get out in front of things early and lock up the 12 we have. Yormark is making it a top priority for when he takes over. All 12 are on board to sign.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
Length will be 7 years with an option to extend it based on length of next tv deal. Obviously B12 is shooting for a 7 year deal. (Would go to market again before the next ACC deal).

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 5h
Just heard that one proposal the PAC is looking at with their uneven distribution model is to distribute playoff money unequally yearly and staggeringly unequally if one of their teams makes the playoff.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
Starting to get a few reports from Colorado’s meeting. Cannot confirm yet if they decided to officially seek out B12 membership but I did get a nice tidbit of claims being made that Washington and Oregon are holding the entire conference hostage right now.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
Colorado has still not made a decision on applying for B12 membership. They will meet again on Friday (so I’m told).

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
Colorado very unhappy with unequal revenue sharing. Looks like it’s the only way Washington and Oregon are agreeing to stay in the conference and not entertain offers from B12 or ACC(!).

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
Interesting that Washington/Oregon are making it widely known to conference brethren that they have been talking to ACC and B12 and using that to further their own ends.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
ACC made a play for Washington/Oregon/Stanford/Cal and was shot down. No proof of it but Colorado AD said it has been implied.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
ORWA also balked at being locked into the ACC GOR through 2036.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
ORWA was on board for a B12 merger provided it came with no GOR and allowed for PAC to control the distribution model for their teams until a new tv deal was reached for all.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 4h
The merger would’ve allowed TX/OK/USC/UCLA early outs, Big12 to take control of Pac12 networks and Espn/Fox would honor remainder of Pac12 contract and extend it out until the new entity could negotiate a new deal

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h
Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…
 
MH ver3@MH ver3 · 9m
Newsome can’t block the UCLA move to B10 but the regents may force UCLA to share the B10 money with Cal

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2m
Hearing that Pac is going to invite 2 schools to replace USC/UCLA defections. ESPN changing course on additions and wants Pac to act quickly. SDSU for sure. Either Fresno or SMU for the second.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2m
ESPN also advising the additions will not increase their current tv offer. B12 contact thinks this is ESPN being proactive to get ahead of AZ/CU defections to B12 and to keep PAC stable-ish.



 
CAtlantic said:
MH ver3@MH ver3 · 9m
Newsome can’t block the UCLA move to B10 but the regents may force UCLA to share the B10 money with Cal

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2m
Hearing that Pac is going to invite 2 schools to replace USC/UCLA defections. ESPN changing course on additions and wants Pac to act quickly. SDSU for sure. Either Fresno or SMU for the second.

MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2m
ESPN also advising the additions will not increase their current tv offer. B12 contact thinks this is ESPN being proactive to get ahead of AZ/CU defections to B12 and to keep PAC stable-ish.



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These guys have negative credibility.
 
noeynox said:
I understand why Swofford did it, and in truth it is the only thing keeping the ACC together, but that GOR way past the SEC and B1G renegotiating their deals is really an albatross for them. Had they done it for a few years past those leagues windows, maybe they could have squeezed more money for themselves in the near future. With them being locked in till 2036, why would ESPN offer them more money? Even the PAC and Big 12 redo their deals before then no?
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And everyone in the negotiating room but Swofford knew it was a sucker deal presented by a man who needed something to hold his conference together back then. The only reason ESPN did it was due to the length of the deal; that was the part which hooked the addict. It made no sense for ESPN to offer a 5-10 year deal to the ACC. It had to be ridiculously long.

It was basically a pay day loan shop giving you that pay day cash you so desperately need.
 
Waquoit said:
That way of thinking kept us out of the ACC more than anything else, imo.
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Agree. UConn didn't have the 2-3 generation deep relationships in the rooms where decisions were being made. And, that's where the actions by Dickie B to personally sue individuals burned fences. That was a case where people who have been yachting and skiing the Alps together for years would have talked to Dick about not being that guy who thinks he can waive cash or a contract in the air and get people to move their positions.
 
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