Non-Key Tweets

[Husky25]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

This is just stupid. They should have thought about the loophole not meant for G5 teams when they executed the contract. The Big 12 LOST 3 P5 teams and were on the verge of collapse when they signed the deal. What level programs did the networks think they were going to attract? So now the idea is to spend $20 million (the same money used to grow the brand) on lawyers and court costs because the original lawyers were to stupid to write it into the original contract? No wonder ESPN (among other reasons) is losing subscribers.

 

[Hoophound]

This is just stupid. They should have thought about the loophole not meant for G5 teams when they executed the contract. The Big 12 LOST 3 P5 teams and were on the verge of collapse when they signed the deal. What level programs did the networks think they were going to attract? So now the idea is to spend $20 million (the same money used to grow the brand) on lawyers and court costs because the original lawyers were to stupid to write it into the original contract? No wonder ESPN (among other reasons) is losing subscribers.

That's more BS, ESPN always knew that Cincinnati and UConn were possible Big 12 targets. It's been talked about for several years. The issue is the American has turned out to be much better than expected and it can grow. ESPN would not back Cincinnati to the Big 12 over UConn for any reason except to keep the American viable. UConn produces a product that gets ratings in the New York metro and helps grow the league. Cincinnati cannot do that. This is ESPN trying to preserve the American and destroy the Big 12. It is disgusting.

 

[upstater]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

Not meant for G5 additions?

Oh, they were meant for ACC additions?

The ESPN wanted the B12 to raid its domain?

How silly and stupid.

 

[Hoophound]

That's more BS, ESPN always knew that Cincinnati and UConn were possible Big 12 targets. It's been talked about for several years. The issue is the American has turned out to be much better than expected and it can grow. ESPN would not back Cincinnati to the Big 12 over UConn for any reason except to keep the American viable. UConn produces a product that gets ratings in the New York metro and helps grow the league. Cincinnati cannot do that. This is ESPN trying to preserve the American and destroy the Big 12. It is disgusting.

To add to this, the perception being fed to the public that UConn won't support it's teams even if they are in the Big 12 is preposterous. It is very easy for anyone to either look up or be shown a full Rentschler Field or a full Gampel Pavilion going crazy for UConn sports on the web. How about MSG for Michigan State? Michigan football at the Rent was electric and featured star studded audience. A writer stated the other day that our fanbase wouldn't support a game in NYC more than once every few years. Further, he was saying that in regard to football games against OU and UT. That's so insane it is borderline slander. It's outrageous.

So, it would be very easy for any conference to take us knowing full well that once they see our stadium for a game featuring Texas or Oklahoma or Florida or Alabama or even Texas Tech, we belong. An administrator voting for us wouldn't have to worry about blow back because the evidence is all there that we belong. It doesn't matter that Joe Schmoe in South Texas or some writer in Oklahoma City don't get it. They will very quickly see it and that stuff will be put to bed immediately. Compare that to what would happen if you brought in schools like UCF or Memphis. Those schools have few fans at all and even when they are good, they aren't there in droves. They don't have big fanbases over many generations like we do. We have video evidence of average UConn teams selling out like crazy in a good conference. The good t UConn teams matching up with Texas and OU would warrant expansion of the stadium.

 

[CTMike]

Did the term G5 even exist when they signed their contract? When did they sign it? Because we weren't G-anything coming up in the Big East.

 

[Santini35]

That's more BS, ESPN always knew that Cincinnati and UConn were possible Big 12 targets. It's been talked about for several years. The issue is the American has turned out to be much better than expected and it can grow. ESPN would not back Cincinnati to the Big 12 over UConn for any reason except to keep the American viable. UConn produces a product that gets ratings in the New York metro and helps grow the league. Cincinnati cannot do that. This is ESPN trying to preserve the American and destroy the Big 12. It is disgusting.

I know it probably wouldn't stand up in court but it really feels antitrustish

 

[Penfield]

must have included the no G5 clause right after they added TCU

 

[noeynox]

Did the term G5 even exist when they signed their contract? When did they sign it? Because we weren't G-anything coming up in the Big East.

Ding, we have a winner. Yet further evidence of how destructive the G5 label has become.

 

[Kolumbo]

Ding, we have a winner. Yet further evidence of how destructive the G5 label has become.

There's the plan. Go Indie so we can get the the Big 12 invite without the G5 loophole!

 

[Santini35]

Did the term G5 even exist when they signed their contract? When did they sign it? Because we weren't G-anything coming up in the Big East.

Sept 2012, Autonomy was voted for in August of 2014

 

[Charley Horse]

Orangebloods has one good thing going for it, a writer named Alex Dunlap who Charlie Strong likes and grants access. Otherwise, they're meh. Like most University of Texas insider info for $9.95/month their actual information has all but stopped since the loquacious Powell, Dodds and Brown were replaced by the much more reserved Fenves, Perrin and Strong.

And Orangeblood's owner/publisher, Geoff Ketchum... good gawd, what a tool.

Out of the scores of people who earn their living covering the Texas program there are only about four or five I'd trust.

 

[whaler11]

Please understand that nobody thinks the non-key tweets are true because they were tweeted. They may be true they may not be true of they may have slivers of truth in them. We have no freaking idea. But the fact that something was tweeted by a WV basement dweller or a Minnesota guy doesn't make the underlying assertion false either. Honestly, the key tweeters get it wrong just as often.

Is this really that complicated.

CL constantly tells me everyone nobody believes non-key tweets.

Reading this thread makes it obvious that some percentage of people do.

I'm not sure how that is controversial.

 

[Santini35]

must have included the no G5 clause right after they added TCU

TCU and WVU officially joined on July 1 2012, hard to tell exactly what day the tv deal was signed, but it was announced Sept 7th 2012 and G-5 label did not exist at that time, only AQ or not AQ and The BE/AAC were still AQ at the time

 

[UConn Dan]

There was no such thing as G5 or P5 at the time that Big 12 TV contract was signed. It's total bullsheete from that "insider." The big 12 can add whatever school they want per the contract.

We were still members of a BCS conference called the Big East at the time.

 

[businesslawyer]

This is just stupid. They should have thought about the loophole not meant for G5 teams when they executed the contract. The Big 12 LOST 3 P5 teams and were on the verge of collapse when they signed the deal. What level programs did the networks think they were going to attract? So now the idea is to spend $20 million (the same money used to grow the brand) on lawyers and court costs because the original lawyers were to stupid to write it into the original contract? No wonder ESPN (among other reasons) is losing subscribers.

Would you please stop talking about $20M being spent on lawyers like it was a bad thing. My dog needs to eat.

 

[mavblues]

anyone else notice that Iowa state fair lo


Did you see that the Iowa State fair logo looked like a dong?

That was pretty with th trip here I bet.

Yes, I did see the giant Iowa state fair dong. Lol.

 

[RioDog]

Yes, I did see the giant Iowa state fair dong. Lol.

They're just jealous of O Senhor....

 

[nelsonmuntz]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

My insiders say that the orangebloods poster should think through the fact that g5 and p5 did not exist when the tv contract was signed before he makes stuff up.

 

[amory]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

 

[CL82]

Is this really that complicated.

CL constantly tells me everyone nobody believes non-key tweets.

Reading this thread makes it obvious that some percentage of people do.

I'm not sure how that is controversial.

Obsessed much?

Now are you going tell me that I'm picking on you because I responded to a yet another post where you mentioned me?

 

[Slasher]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

These "sources" are full of it. Firstly, UT wouldn't be welcome in the SEC. The other 3? Yeah probably. But the SEC will not take another Texas school without A&Ms approval and there's no way they give it. Secondly, the AAC has been preparing to lose schools for some time now, but it's not going to happen? Yeah ok.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Texas leaving for the B1G, likely resulting in OU bolting, and the B12 crumbling would be a GREAT opportunity for us to jump on board with the remaining members, as well as UC, and whoever else to form a new league. This is more or less the same result that would've happened if Beebe didn't save the Big 12 from crumbling years ago when Texas +4 were going to the Pac 12 - which ALSO would've been great for us.

 

[The Funster]

From a Texas poster that subscribes at Orangebloods

Sources on Orangebloods are indicating expansion is hitting major roadblocks.

- The networks don't like any of the teams nor that the Big 12 is even considering expanding (loophole in contract not meant for G5 additions)...they appear to be willing to litigate to stop it.

- None of the teams have 8 votes

- Bowslby could be in danger of getting fired for the whole fiasco

- If the Big 12 crumbles, UT reportedly leaning B1G due to academic profile but is expecting to have ability to join any of the other P4's. Money and allowed travel partners are obviously keys.

- If the Big 12 crumbles, sources say we'll all hear about it well before the GOR expires.

These guys are full of it. When that contract was signed I don't think the P5 breakaway had even been finalized. There was no P5, therefore no G5.

appears others beat me to that assertion...

 

[huskymedic]

Okay, how about more ESPN EE>>UConn hate to focus on?

Travis Rockhold@TravisRockhold 36 mins ago (Graduate of THE Ohio State Univeristy and working for @espnradio)
These UConn football commercials are equally as bad as the product on the field

Can one of you tweeters respond about his spelling being equally as bad as his product on the radio?

You go LowHangingGreen!

Low Hanging Green ‏@LowHanginGreen 11h11 hours ago
@TravisRockhold nice to say that to the tax payers of CT that subsidize your job. #&#$@@espn

Low Hanging Green@LowHanginGreen 11 hours ago
@TravisRockhold BTW that great ohio education.. You can't even spell university right in your profile.

Travis Rockhold ‏@TravisRockhold 11h 11 hours ago
@LowHanginGreen typo doesn't take away the fact UConn isn't good at football. Not a personal attack, just stating a fact

Low Hanging Green@LowHanginGreen 10 hours ago
@TravisRockhold and I am stating your education is bad, insulting tax payers that gave $250m to your place of work so your job can exist

Oh... and he changed the spelling. Point UConn fan!

 

[WestCoastHusky]

The way it is going, it is just a matter of time before the B12 will crumble. When you have a conference with multiple conflicting interests, it is just a matter of time. People forget that b12 almost merged with the Big East when Pac-10 made the proposal to take 4 B12 schools.

This could still happen of course. I hope it does soon since it is inevitable. Uconn and Cincy can create a new conference with the B12 left behinds and create a new conference. Hopefully, that conference can negotiate a new media deal with the likes of Twitter or Apple TV to compete with ESPN and Fox. That's if we are not in a P5 by then. The only unfortunate thing is this could take a few years to play out.