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JMick said:
I don't see why people are assuming that the game would be played on the same day that the Holy Cross game was cancelled.
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I'm not - The game shift is what sparked the convo based on the timelines - I'm only speculating on the Yankee Stadium/MSG piece. Basketball doesn't roll until November and football has Missouri and BC home games to work around. Logistically doesn't make sense.
 
huskymedic said:
I'm not - The game shift is what sparked the convo based on the timelines - I'm only speculating on the Yankee Stadium/MSG piece. Basketball doesn't roll until November and football has Missouri and BC home games to work around. Logistically doesn't make sense.
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unless it's an in conference football game which I am going to believe until I find out otherwise and have my dreams crushed
 
dwalks93 said:
IMO Texas actually prefers a weak Big12. It allows them complete and total control and insures their word is the final word. UT wants the status quo but if it is a choice between an equal more powerful Big12 or a weaker Big12 with UT in control then we know what UT will do.

If this latest round of "UT don't need no data, now give me Houston" hasn't convinced the other Big12 members they need to make the expansion decisions which best strengthens the league then they deserve what they will get. ...a front row seat to an imploding conference while searching for a new P4 home

The only chance for the other Big12 programs to get out from under UT's boot is to build up their conference. UT only builds one thing...its own power base. UT will split the baby before it will share it.
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I think you hit on the answer to resolving this mess. If OU is truly committed to the expanded B12 long term, then it should be working on TT, Baylor and TCU. All three should know that it's expand or die. In order to keep faith with the Texas politicians, UH needs to get in, which means 4 teams need to get in.

I don't know the dynamic between UT and the other 3. Do they have any autonomy? Will this be seen as crossing UT? What are the repercussions of that? What it OU's relationship with these 3, since they are usually on opposite sides in internal B12 beefs. Does OU have anything to offer that can grease the skids?
 
Today's U ‏@TodaysUSports 45m45 minutes ago
The foremost candidates for #Big12 expansion know they need to produce strong 2016 seasons.
Big 12 Yearns For Successful Season From Expansion Candidates

>>For the purposes of this exercise, consider BYU, Houston, Cincinnati and UConn as the main targets for the Big 12 with Memphis as a wild card. The Big 12 is a tremendous basketball conference; Cincinnati, Memphis and especially UConn would be great additions in that regard, but football is still and likely will always be the real moneymaker in college sports.<<
 
huskymedic said:
Today's U ‏@TodaysUSports 45m45 minutes ago
The foremost candidates for #Big12 expansion know they need to produce strong 2016 seasons.
Big 12 Yearns For Successful Season From Expansion Candidates

>>For the purposes of this exercise, consider BYU, Houston, Cincinnati and UConn as the main targets for the Big 12 with Memphis as a wild card. The Big 12 is a tremendous basketball conference; Cincinnati, Memphis and especially UConn would be great additions in that regard, but football is still and likely will always be the real moneymaker in college sports.<<
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What a weak article. They say nothing other than naming the various head coaches.
 
I mean, it's good for optics if candidates have good seasons but at this point, I hope the hang-up isn't that the Big 12 is waiting around to see who has a good start to the year so they can sell whatever they are planning to the masses. Because that would be an utterly stupid way to go about making a long-term decision like this. There's no better example than UCF, who a couple seasons ago was this burgeoning BCS-quality super power. Then they lay an 0-12 egg. That's just how it goes with almost every G5 school out there - maybe not that extreme but that's why using a candidate team's recent record as validation is ridiculous.

There's a few schools out there with a legit football resume...BYU, Boise State, ECU. The latter two have zero chance of getting an invite. So really, you've got BYU. And then UConn, for me, is no different than UCF/USF, Houston, Memphis, etc when it comes to football. Make a good hire, get some momentum and you can win and draw crowds. Make a bad hire...things can dwindle quickly when your schedule is not P5 level. It will be no different for Houston if they get left behind and Herman leaves and they don't adequately replace him. Their Texas location will not save them...new stadium allure will eventually wear off. They didn't just move to Houston 5 years ago. They don't have a history of drawing 30,000+ in lean years. In 2005 they drew 15,000 per game.
 
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BKarchitect said:
There's no better example than UCF, who a couple seasons ago was this burgeoning BCS-quality super power. Then they lay an 0-12 egg.
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But they've hired Scott Frost and he's turning the program around! They're a real up and comer!

BKarchitect said:
Make a good hire, get some momentum and you can win and draw crowds. Make a bad hire...things can dwindle quickly when your schedule is not P5 level.
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It works that way for schools in the P5 too. *Cough* Kansas.

Miami, Michigan, and our dear friends at Louisville CC are other P5 examples of schools that made one bad hire and were set back. Granted Michigan and Louisville never stopped selling tickets (or in Louisville's case, giving them away with every Papa John's pizza ordered and probably with every hooker ordered too, but I digress) but Miami suffered in the stands as well.
 
“Multiple industry sources indicated the next logical step will be culling the candidates down to a manageable number for final interviews,” [Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News] wrote. “The sources indicated that invitations and a public announcement are unlikely in the next two weeks, with a likely timeline of mid-September to mid-October ahead of a scheduled Big 12 board of directors meeting.”

Paging the Flightaware guys....

UConn football seems to be trending in the right direction under head coach Bob Diaco

Well I like that narrative better than citing stats from the PP years.
 
MattMang23 said:
But they've hired Scott Frost and he's turning the program around! They're a real up and comer!



It works that way for schools in the P5 too. *Cough* Kansas.

Miami, Michigan, and our dear friends at Louisville CC are other P5 examples of schools that made one bad hire and were set back. Granted Michigan and Louisville never stopped selling tickets (or in Louisville's case, giving them away with every Papa John's pizza ordered and probably with every hooker ordered too, but I digress) but Miami suffered in the stands as well.
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Yeah well Kansas has a special case of inept hiring. It's not a few years of setback or one bad hire. It's taking a program that trounced Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl in 2008 and blowing it back to the stone ages.

My point is that it is even more difficult without a P5 schedule to generate interest. I'm giving you guys more slack than my own team because of that. The narrative that Houston or UCF or Memphis is this superior football school to UConn is hogwash. All can look varying levels of good and bad playing year in and year out in the AAC.
 
MattMang23 said:
It works that way for schools in the P5 too. *Cough* Kansas.

Miami, Michigan, and our dear friends at Louisville CC are other P5 examples of schools that made one bad hire and were set back. Granted Michigan and Louisville never stopped selling tickets (or in Louisville's case, giving them away with every Papa John's pizza ordered and probably with every hooker ordered too, but I digress) but Miami suffered in the stands as well.
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Alabama and Ohio State had relative down years as well, as has Nebraska. Southern Cal is just now coming out of it, like Michigan. KU is great evidence of the impact of coaching. They were pretty strong in my years under Glen Mason, featuring guys like Dana Stubblefield and Gilbert Brown. Then sucked, then had one great year with Mangino...then Gill and Charlie Weiss....ugh. I don't really know if Beaty is the guy. He doesn't fill me with optimism the way Diaco does, and his reliance on passing and skill players seems a harder way to get to respectable. Diaco's emphasis on size, power, defense and running yield a team that can be competitive more regularly.
 
Resisting the temptation to critique Flug's narrative too much...

let me just ask all of you: what do you suppose he means with "Iowa State's President is Big 12's Gandhi"?

I doubt he means Iowa State will go independent as India did from Britain.

Does he mean Leath is negotiating peace? Or does he mean Leath championing the rights of the conference underdogs?

Quite a distinction between the two. The former could be good. The latter could explain Flug's other comments about Texas' bad attitude towards the process.

Like I said on the Commentary Thread for Premium Top-Shelf Tweets yesterday, never underestimate Texas' hubris.
 
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MattMang23 said:
But they've hired Scott Frost and he's turning the program around! They're a real up and comer!
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They seem to forget how badly a Frost can hurt Florida...
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CL82 said:
“Multiple industry sources indicated the next logical step will be culling the candidates down to a manageable number for final interviews,” [Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News] wrote. “The sources indicated that invitations and a public announcement are unlikely in the next two weeks, with a likely timeline of mid-September to mid-October ahead of a scheduled Big 12 board of directors meeting.”

Paging the Flightaware guys....

UConn football seems to be trending in the right direction under head coach Bob Diaco

Well I like that narrative better than citing stats from the PP years.
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It doesn't matter that we lost to Marshall going to a bowl game was huge from a perception standpoint.
 
Re Kansas...

They had one good double digit year...stuck in the middle of a string of either bad or mediocre years.

A sign of a good team is a double digit win year....the sign of a good program is a string of double digit years...and it ain't that easy.


If they win double digit this year, these P5 programs will have consecutive streaks of:

Alabama...8 years
Clemson....6 years
FSU...........5 years
Ohio St......5 years
Mich, St.....4 years
Baylor........4 years
Wis............3 years
TCU...........3 years
Georgia......3 years

and a host od P5 programs that had a double digit last year and looking for the second consecutive double digit this year
Oklahoma...2 years
OK State.....2 years
Michigan.....2 years
Florida........2 years
Stanford.......2 years
Oregon.........2
Ole Miss.......2

The consecutive double digit win streak is tough to prolong....have to hand it to Saben...
 
Not sure what the Dude is posting, but it must have involved UConn because Flug posted this in response:

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago


So @theDudeofWV has gone from his article "UConn has no shot" to his Twitter "UConn surge" all within last 72 hours? Only the Dude man...
 
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mavblues said:
Not sure what the Dude is posting, but it must have involved UConn because Flug posted this in response:

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago

So @theDudeofWV has gone from his article "UConn has no shot" to his Twitter "UConn surge" all within last 72 hours? Only the Dude man...
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It was a long back and forth. But this is mentioned (start at the bottom).

  1. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22h22 hours ago
    @BriUConn @uconn24_7 But WVU won't have the chance to vote for UCONN over BYU. That's what I'm saying...
  2. In reply to Brian A
    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22h22 hours ago
    @BriUConn @uconn24_7 UCONN's surge has come from OU. WVU supports UCONN too. WVU would vote for UCONN over BYU.
 
CL82 said:
“Multiple industry sources indicated the next logical step will be culling the candidates down to a manageable number for final interviews,” [Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News] wrote. “The sources indicated that invitations and a public announcement are unlikely in the next two weeks, with a likely timeline of mid-September to mid-October ahead of a scheduled Big 12 board of directors meeting.”

Paging the Flightaware guys....

UConn football seems to be trending in the right direction under head coach Bob Diaco

Well I like that narrative better than citing stats from the PP years.
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That's a carwash timeline right there.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It was a long back and forth. But this is mentioned (start at the bottom).

  1. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22h22 hours ago
    @BriUConn @uconn24_7 But WVU won't have the chance to vote for UCONN over BYU. That's what I'm saying...
  2. In reply to Brian A
    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22h22 hours ago
    @BriUConn @uconn24_7 UCONN's surge has come from OU. WVU supports UCONN too. WVU would vote for UCONN over BYU.
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The Dude has given me a reason to cheer for the Sooners to put the hammer down on the Cougars.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
So @theDudeofWV has gone from his article "UConn has no shot" to his Twitter "UConn surge" all within last 72 hours?
Only the Dude man...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@vidikron25
BYU/UH/UCONN/UC
According to OU contacts, BYU (same with other 3 schools)need larger EXP package of 4 to gain 8 votes.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
BYU has best "on the ground data"...UConn has best "Over the air data"
But BYU & UConn both need UH/UC added

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
The fear of ESPN is not so much.
In 2024 B12 schools will be looking for new media interests(Twitter-Netflix)

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
ESPN's higher priorities of ACC/SEC + partial B1G package over Big 12 has been acknowledged by B12 Presidents

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
ESPN's Proxy of Texas still holds clout (UH) but can't stop EXP to 14 if consensus not there on 11/12..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
UH + 1 does not get it done.
BYU + Cincy or UConn does not get it done
Must go to UC/UConn/UH/BYU

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Power Lunch: Chat with columnist Berry Tramel | NewsOK.com …
Tramel's outlook on B12 Expansion matches yesterday's our OU Contacts dark view.
Friction among B12 Presidents.
 
I can live with no expansion because it means real drama for the B12 dwarfs as several won't be saved by a life raft. The B1G, SEC and ACC $ machines can only take on the very best teams.
 
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Husky25 said:
Kansas will need an eastern partner for the Big Ten.
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That's my dream scenario really. What an amazing hoops league too. I'm sure folks in Lawrence would welcome back the Nebraska horde to fill Memorial Stadium. It really is something to see. And Iowa would become a good local rival, and probably Wiscy in hoops. UConn would likely build rivalries with MSU and Maryland.
 
jostar1 said:
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
So @theDudeofWV has gone from his article "UConn has no shot" to his Twitter "UConn surge" all within last 72 hours?
Only the Dude man...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@vidikron25
BYU/UH/UCONN/UC
According to OU contacts, BYU (same with other 3 schools)need larger EXP package of 4 to gain 8 votes.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
BYU has best "on the ground data"...UConn has best "Over the air data"
But BYU & UConn both need UH/UC added

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
The fear of ESPN is not so much.
In 2024 B12 schools will be looking for new media interests(Twitter-Netflix)

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
ESPN's higher priorities of ACC/SEC + partial B1G package over Big 12 has been acknowledged by B12 Presidents

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
ESPN's Proxy of Texas still holds clout (UH) but can't stop EXP to 14 if consensus not there on 11/12..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch @theDudeofWV
UH + 1 does not get it done.
BYU + Cincy or UConn does not get it done
Must go to UC/UConn/UH/BYU

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Power Lunch: Chat with columnist Berry Tramel | NewsOK.com …
Tramel's outlook on B12 Expansion matches yesterday's our OU Contacts dark view.
Friction among B12 Presidents.
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Feel like I've read these tweets before. Are these old?
 
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