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"Texas doesn't care about/want to look at data" pretty much sums up this entire process. Texas wants what Texas wants. They could care less about anyone else.
 
JMick said:
"Texas doesn't care about/want to look at data" pretty much sums up this entire process. Texas wants what Texas wants. They could care less about anyone else.
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The longer this dragged on this was always the probable outcome. Data presentations were supposed to clarify the best path forward for the league. Texas has just clarified that the future of the league is not a major priority for them. Now you have to see how the other institutions react and whether this becomes an ugly public fight, or just a weak surrender that could leave the "junior" members scrambling for survival in a few years.
 
I wonder what the Texas threat is right now. We going to leave and take our network to the ACC? Do the teams in the ACC want that really?
 
IMO Texas actually prefers a weak Big12. It allows them complete and total control and insures their word is the final word. UT wants the status quo but if it is a choice between an equal more powerful Big12 or a weaker Big12 with UT in control then we know what UT will do.

If this latest round of "UT don't need no data, now give me Houston" hasn't convinced the other Big12 members they need to make the expansion decisions which best strengthens the league then they deserve what they will get. ...a front row seat to an imploding conference while searching for a new P4 home

The only chance for the other Big12 programs to get out from under UT's boot is to build up their conference. UT only builds one thing...its own power base. UT will split the baby before it will share it.
 
Jimdish255 said:
I wonder what the Texas threat is right now. We going to leave and take our network to the ACC? Do the teams in the ACC want that really?
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Why not? They seem OK with ND which basically has its cake and gets to eat all of it without sharing.
 
Vuce said:
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MattMang23 said:
As part of an agreement to join the league?? And is DeMauro not considered premium top shelf? He is a reporter, even if he went to BCU.
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This is all because UConn moved the Holy Cross game in 2017 to 8/31 instead of the previously scheduled 9/9. There was no game scheduled for the 31st and to open the season w/ a bye or conference game would not be optimum. UConn is @ UVA on 9/16.

As far as Texas @ Yankee Stadium - not going to see a game scheduled @ Yankee Stadium in September.
 
huskymedic said:
This is all because UConn moved the Holy Cross game in 2017 to 8/31 instead of the previously scheduled 9/9. There was no game scheduled for the 31st and to open the season w/ a bye or conference game would not be optimum. UConn is @ UVA on 9/16.

As far as Texas @ Yankee Stadium - not going to see a game scheduled @ Yankee Stadium in September.
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Party pooper.
 
Jimdish255 said:
I wonder what the Texas threat is right now. We going to leave and take our network to the ACC? Do the teams in the ACC want that really?
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If taking on Texas means that the ACC is still standing when the P4 emerge, the answer is yes.
 
huskymedic said:
As far as Texas @ Yankee Stadium - not going to see a game scheduled @ Yankee Stadium in September.
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Agree on that as the Yankees would not want to risk the field with the playoffs right around the corner. That said, Texas could easily fill-up MetLife...
 
You get the feeling Tim F and Dimauro conspired to fk with the Boneyard?

Sept 9th Texas has a game with UCF and BB season hasn't started. :rolleyes:
 
sportsart said:
You get the feeling Tim F and Dimauro conspired to fk with the Boneyard?

Sept 9th Texas has a game with UCF and BB season hasn't started. :rolleyes:
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I don't see why people are assuming that the game would be played on the same day that the Holy Cross game was cancelled.
 
JMick said:
I don't see why people are assuming that the game would be played on the same day that the Holy Cross game was cancelled.
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I'm not - The game shift is what sparked the convo based on the timelines - I'm only speculating on the Yankee Stadium/MSG piece. Basketball doesn't roll until November and football has Missouri and BC home games to work around. Logistically doesn't make sense.
 
huskymedic said:
I'm not - The game shift is what sparked the convo based on the timelines - I'm only speculating on the Yankee Stadium/MSG piece. Basketball doesn't roll until November and football has Missouri and BC home games to work around. Logistically doesn't make sense.
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unless it's an in conference football game which I am going to believe until I find out otherwise and have my dreams crushed
 
dwalks93 said:
IMO Texas actually prefers a weak Big12. It allows them complete and total control and insures their word is the final word. UT wants the status quo but if it is a choice between an equal more powerful Big12 or a weaker Big12 with UT in control then we know what UT will do.

If this latest round of "UT don't need no data, now give me Houston" hasn't convinced the other Big12 members they need to make the expansion decisions which best strengthens the league then they deserve what they will get. ...a front row seat to an imploding conference while searching for a new P4 home

The only chance for the other Big12 programs to get out from under UT's boot is to build up their conference. UT only builds one thing...its own power base. UT will split the baby before it will share it.
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I think you hit on the answer to resolving this mess. If OU is truly committed to the expanded B12 long term, then it should be working on TT, Baylor and TCU. All three should know that it's expand or die. In order to keep faith with the Texas politicians, UH needs to get in, which means 4 teams need to get in.

I don't know the dynamic between UT and the other 3. Do they have any autonomy? Will this be seen as crossing UT? What are the repercussions of that? What it OU's relationship with these 3, since they are usually on opposite sides in internal B12 beefs. Does OU have anything to offer that can grease the skids?
 
Today's U ‏@TodaysUSports 45m45 minutes ago
The foremost candidates for #Big12 expansion know they need to produce strong 2016 seasons.
Big 12 Yearns For Successful Season From Expansion Candidates

>>For the purposes of this exercise, consider BYU, Houston, Cincinnati and UConn as the main targets for the Big 12 with Memphis as a wild card. The Big 12 is a tremendous basketball conference; Cincinnati, Memphis and especially UConn would be great additions in that regard, but football is still and likely will always be the real moneymaker in college sports.<<
 
huskymedic said:
Today's U ‏@TodaysUSports 45m45 minutes ago
The foremost candidates for #Big12 expansion know they need to produce strong 2016 seasons.
Big 12 Yearns For Successful Season From Expansion Candidates

>>For the purposes of this exercise, consider BYU, Houston, Cincinnati and UConn as the main targets for the Big 12 with Memphis as a wild card. The Big 12 is a tremendous basketball conference; Cincinnati, Memphis and especially UConn would be great additions in that regard, but football is still and likely will always be the real moneymaker in college sports.<<
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What a weak article. They say nothing other than naming the various head coaches.
 
I mean, it's good for optics if candidates have good seasons but at this point, I hope the hang-up isn't that the Big 12 is waiting around to see who has a good start to the year so they can sell whatever they are planning to the masses. Because that would be an utterly stupid way to go about making a long-term decision like this. There's no better example than UCF, who a couple seasons ago was this burgeoning BCS-quality super power. Then they lay an 0-12 egg. That's just how it goes with almost every G5 school out there - maybe not that extreme but that's why using a candidate team's recent record as validation is ridiculous.

There's a few schools out there with a legit football resume...BYU, Boise State, ECU. The latter two have zero chance of getting an invite. So really, you've got BYU. And then UConn, for me, is no different than UCF/USF, Houston, Memphis, etc when it comes to football. Make a good hire, get some momentum and you can win and draw crowds. Make a bad hire...things can dwindle quickly when your schedule is not P5 level. It will be no different for Houston if they get left behind and Herman leaves and they don't adequately replace him. Their Texas location will not save them...new stadium allure will eventually wear off. They didn't just move to Houston 5 years ago. They don't have a history of drawing 30,000+ in lean years. In 2005 they drew 15,000 per game.
 
BKarchitect said:
There's no better example than UCF, who a couple seasons ago was this burgeoning BCS-quality super power. Then they lay an 0-12 egg.
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But they've hired Scott Frost and he's turning the program around! They're a real up and comer!

BKarchitect said:
Make a good hire, get some momentum and you can win and draw crowds. Make a bad hire...things can dwindle quickly when your schedule is not P5 level.
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It works that way for schools in the P5 too. *Cough* Kansas.

Miami, Michigan, and our dear friends at Louisville CC are other P5 examples of schools that made one bad hire and were set back. Granted Michigan and Louisville never stopped selling tickets (or in Louisville's case, giving them away with every Papa John's pizza ordered and probably with every hooker ordered too, but I digress) but Miami suffered in the stands as well.
 
“Multiple industry sources indicated the next logical step will be culling the candidates down to a manageable number for final interviews,” [Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News] wrote. “The sources indicated that invitations and a public announcement are unlikely in the next two weeks, with a likely timeline of mid-September to mid-October ahead of a scheduled Big 12 board of directors meeting.”

Paging the Flightaware guys....

UConn football seems to be trending in the right direction under head coach Bob Diaco

Well I like that narrative better than citing stats from the PP years.
 
MattMang23 said:
But they've hired Scott Frost and he's turning the program around! They're a real up and comer!



It works that way for schools in the P5 too. *Cough* Kansas.

Miami, Michigan, and our dear friends at Louisville CC are other P5 examples of schools that made one bad hire and were set back. Granted Michigan and Louisville never stopped selling tickets (or in Louisville's case, giving them away with every Papa John's pizza ordered and probably with every hooker ordered too, but I digress) but Miami suffered in the stands as well.
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Yeah well Kansas has a special case of inept hiring. It's not a few years of setback or one bad hire. It's taking a program that trounced Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl in 2008 and blowing it back to the stone ages.

My point is that it is even more difficult without a P5 schedule to generate interest. I'm giving you guys more slack than my own team because of that. The narrative that Houston or UCF or Memphis is this superior football school to UConn is hogwash. All can look varying levels of good and bad playing year in and year out in the AAC.
 

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