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Gee Nelson because the league monetize their properties differently? Some value basketball more highly? Some make more geographic sense? Some value academics more? Some may see their membership change and need new members?

You are being intentionally dense. I'm not sure why other than to build your ridiculous case for the return to the Big East.

If you want to build a nonsensical case - I'd suggest dropping football and working on an ACC invite.

You have spent the last two pages of this thread contradicting yourself. You make some very valid points about UConn's problems, but do not have the sack to admit the obvious conclusion: that we are most likely permanently #$@!ed when it comes to realignment.

Yes, my postings in this thread are all part of my master Big East plan. Unlike many of the idiots who revert to "Nelson just wants to drop football" every time they start losing an argument to me, you are smart enough to realize that my issue is revenue. UConn has two choices: raise more revenue, or cut costs by a lot. It doesn't really matter how the athletic department gets more revenue, but it has to get more revenue.

If you have some bright ideas, you should focus on that.
 

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You have spent the last two pages of this thread contradicting yourself. You make some very valid points about UConn's problems, but do not have the sack to admit the obvious conclusion: that we are most likely permanently #$@!ed when it comes to realignment.

Yes, my postings in this thread are all part of my master Big East plan. Unlike many of the idiots who revert to "Nelson just wants to drop football" every time they start losing an argument to me, you are smart enough to realize that my issue is revenue. UConn has two choices: raise more revenue, or cut costs by a lot. It doesn't really matter how the athletic department gets more revenue, but it has to get more revenue.

If you have some bright ideas, you should focus on that.
It's funny, you've never posited how UConn will get more revenue. Your horrible Big East master plan increases revenue by the width of a gnats ass.

UConn has different value to different leagues. We have the most value to the ACC or B1G, we have the least to the PAC12 and SEC, and the B12 is in between, but a heck of a lot closer to SEC and PAC12. This should be obvious enough that no one can possibly disagree. The PAC12 and SEC are not calling, so that leaves the B12 as the league that UConn would add the least value to.

If you are certain that any one of the ACC, B1G, or B12 will either make a move or not make a move - well, you are wrong in addition to being arrogant. No one here knows if or when one will make a move. But you put yourself in the best spot to be the one called if something moves. That plan isn't a guarantee but FOR NOW, it is the best option. Even if making eyes at the B12 is the longest of longshots.
 

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You have spent the last two pages of this thread contradicting yourself. You make some very valid points about UConn's problems, but do not have the sack to admit the obvious conclusion: that we are most likely permanently #$@!ed when it comes to realignment.

Yes, my postings in this thread are all part of my master Big East plan. Unlike many of the idiots who revert to "Nelson just wants to drop football" every time they start losing an argument to me, you are smart enough to realize that my issue is revenue. UConn has two choices: raise more revenue, or cut costs by a lot. It doesn't really matter how the athletic department gets more revenue, but it has to get more revenue.

If you have some bright ideas, you should focus on that.

I have not. You think I am contradicting myself because you keep misrepresenting what I'm saying.

I don't think it's a done deal. I think at some point there will be movement out of the ACC to either the Big 10 or the SEC.
 

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It's funny, you've never posited how UConn will get more revenue. Your horrible Big East master plan increases revenue by the width of a gnats ass.

UConn has different value to different leagues. We have the most value to the ACC or B1G, we have the least to the PAC12 and SEC, and the B12 is in between, but a heck of a lot closer to SEC and PAC12. This should be obvious enough that no one can possibly disagree. The PAC12 and SEC are not calling, so that leaves the B12 as the league that UConn would add the least value to.

If you are certain that any one of the ACC, B1G, or B12 will either make a move or not make a move - well, you are wrong in addition to being arrogant. No one here knows if or when one will make a move. But you put yourself in the best spot to be the one called if something moves. That plan isn't a guarantee but FOR NOW, it is the best option. Even if making eyes at the B12 is the longest of longshots.

Probably 10% of my posts have been about UConn's revenue problem and solutions. Among the many topics that you like to have it both ways, you are attacking me for not having any ideas for more revenue in the same thread where I am getting attacked for suggesting UConn join the Big East. See the connection?

If you think UConn will wait until 2025 when the ACC's GOR expires with the athletic department in its current financial condition, you can't do math.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Probably 10% of my posts have been about UConn's revenue problem and solutions. Among the many topics that you like to have it both ways, you are attacking me for not having any ideas for more revenue in the same thread where I am getting attacked for suggesting UConn join the Big East. See the connection? If you think UConn will wait until 2025 when the ACC's GOR expires with the athletic department in its current financial condition, you can't do math.

I don't think you are crazy. I just disagree.
 

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Probably 10% of my posts have been about UConn's revenue problem and solutions. Among the many topics that you like to have it both ways, you are attacking me for not having any ideas for more revenue in the same thread where I am getting attacked for suggesting UConn join the Big East. See the connection?

If you think UConn will wait until 2025 when the ACC's GOR expires with the athletic department in its current financial condition, you can't do math.

Yes, the "connection" is your non-starter cluster@#$@#$ Big East scenario, which only marginally helps revenue in the short-term, while sacrificing either our football completely, or killing what little scheduling potential we have by going indy, and probably taking what little hope we have of a P5 invite away with it. It's the equivalent to JPP chopping his arm off now.

UConn doesn't believe in white flags, which is why your scenario is so ludicrous to most here. Your insistence on harping on endlessly about it isn't the badge of courage you're proposing it is.
 
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When you are dead, you don't know it.

It only bothers other people.

Sane with being stupid.
 

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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 56s56 seconds ago
Greg Flugaur retweeted Brett McMurphy

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/646338104714903552… As I've said..B10 thinks very highly of UCONN.May not have top FB brand...but it doesn't matter. Relationship tight

Greg Flugaur added,

Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
BYU, Army, Notre Dame, Cincinnati & UConn will count toward Big 10’s requirement of playing 1 non-league Power 5 opponent, source told @ESPN
 
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Something must be brewing, because I'm not sure we've ever done enough to be lumped with any of those schools. BYU has been successful for a while, Cincy has consistently been very good, Notre Dame is Notre Dame, and Army has one of the best histories in the sport.

One of these things is not like the other, quite frankly. Even though I am very optimistic after the Missouri game that this team is a year away from being very good.
 

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I think I read somewhere that the B1G looked back at UConn's schedules for the past 5 or so seasons. That would include the Fiesta Bowl year (barely).

As a BCS member, UConn was very successful/competitive and every bit as worthy as being labelled as a "Power" team as many grandfathered programs. It's a tough sell to continue to call programs like Kansas, Wake, Syracuse, etc "power" programs, then add Army as a "power" and not include UConn when you factor in what the program has done pre-Pasqualoni and how many players we put in the NFL.
 
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Something must be brewing, because I'm not sure we've ever done enough to be lumped with any of those schools. BYU has been successful for a while, Cincy has consistently been very good, Notre Dame is Notre Dame, and Army has one of the best histories in the sport.

One of these things is not like the other, quite frankly. Even though I am very optimistic after the Missouri game that this team is a year away from being very good.
I guess I need to make some assumptions here. Did they just address non P5 schools which are currently on the B1G schedule and not other non P5 schools? For example, is it the case that Navy is not on the B1G schedule but would also be considered if it were on the schedule? My point is, during this period of transition, there are probably other worthy programs and it's not as if UCONN is just 1 of 5. Or I could be wrong.
 
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I think I just figured out why Navy isn't on the list: Maryland.

I bet the B1G left Navy off to discourage Maryland from setting up an annual, trophy game with them, thus giving them an automatic P5 match up on the calendar every year. Either that or the rest of the league objected to it on those grounds.

Either way, I bet you Navy was left off because of the Maryland addition.
 

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Unfortunately i think it's just recognition of the fact that the fball schedule is made well in advance of the actual games.
Yeah, I think its probably that simple. I would bet the B1G would approve Navy if someone sought to add them to the schedule. Especially if someone is short a game in the near future and Navy was the best of a limited set of options.

The good thing here is the clouds over our future B1G games have lifted....for now.
 

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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 56s56 seconds ago
Greg Flugaur retweeted Brett McMurphy

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/646338104714903552… As I've said..B10 thinks very highly of UCONN.May not have top FB brand...but it doesn't matter. Relationship tight

Greg Flugaur added,

Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
BYU, Army, Notre Dame, Cincinnati & UConn will count toward Big 10’s requirement of playing 1 non-league Power 5 opponent, source told @ESPN

That is GREAT news for scheduling. Should help us with other leagues too.
 

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I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
 
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I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
McMurphy's article: http://espn.go.com/college-football...tre-dame-cincinnati-uconn-nonconference-quota

Clearly states that only UConn, Cincinnati, and Navy from the AAC count and that the rest of the AAC does NOT. Very clear distinction from UCF, USF, Houston, and the others who've been floated as other expansion targets. Perhaps that has more to do with geography since UConn and Cincinnati are close to the B1G geographic footprint. It'd be interesting to see if the B12 adopts this, and if the SEC/ACC create similar lists, whether the southern AAC schools are on it. That will be very telling.
 
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I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
Fishy is this you?
 

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