No Games on SNY

[UConn Dan]

Des is wrong in that SNY won't show any of our games this year. For Football we are still on the old ESPN deal. ESPN still holds all our rights. The games they don't take to air on ESPN (including ESPN3 exclusives) those rights can still be sold to SNY (which would also appear on ESPN3). I believe even on our new deal that starts next year we have a certain number of nationally broadcast games and for the games that aren't guaranteed to air on national TV can be sold to SNY.

 

[Rumrunner]

I guess it's a shock to you that this isn't relevant yet?

You're missing the point completely. UConn controlled the terms of the next contract. You are seeing something that we have repeatedly railed against being implemented. So now UConn because of Manuel's incompetence is stuck.

UConn could have and should have retained its non ESPN national broadcast (or ABC) rights. It didn't.


What was espn going to do? Pay less? That's sarcasm. UConn has been stripped of its most profitable outlet- sny. And for that glory it is receiving $2m a year.

What do you think happened with UConn's mbb and wbb tiered rights? Gone. To ESPN.

Just because ESPN had the power under the old contract did not mean Manuel had to agree to it under the new one. If you can't see that fundamental point, I don't know what to say.

This is a huge failing on Manuel's part. A multi million dollar failing, an entry and exposure into NYC failing, and a failing in recognizing the extra content (coach's shows' specials, etc.) that an INVESTED RSN brings to the table.

 

[upstater]

The only thing I wonder about is the women's bball games. There will be hell to pay without those on TV. The football games should be limited on ESPN3 since the contract stipulates that 90% of them will be on TV. I'm thinking only 2 games at most will be impacted.

But if they sold the women's bball games to ESPN, then Manuel and Aresco need to have their heads examined. No one in the conference invests in women's bball like UConn, so why is UConn subsidizing everyone? This is quite different than Texas or Michigan spreading money around since 90% of the schools it shares with have invested in top coaches and facilities.

 

[zls44]

Des is wrong in that SNY won't show any of our games this year. For Football we are still on the old ESPN deal. ESPN still holds all our rights. The games they don't take to air on ESPN (including ESPN3 exclusives) those rights can still be sold to SNY (which would also appear on ESPN3). I believe even on our new deal that starts next year we have a certain number of nationally broadcast games and for the games that aren't guaranteed to air on national TV can be sold to SNY.

Ding ding ding ding ding

(Not in the Tito Salamanca way, in the congrats you are correct way)

 

[zls44]

You're missing the point completely. UConn controlled the terms of the next contract. You are seeing something that we have repeatedly railed against being implemented. So now UConn because of Manuel's incompetence is stuck.

UConn could have and should have retained its non ESPN national broadcast (or ABC) rights. It didn't.


What was espn going to do? Pay less? That's sarcasm. UConn has been stripped of its most profitable outlet- sny. And for that glory it is receiving $2m a year.

What do you think happened with UConn's mbb and wbb tiered rights? Gone. To ESPN.

Just because ESPN had the power under the old contract did not mean Manuel had to agree to it under the new one. If you can't see that simole and fundamental point, I don't know what to say.

This is a huge failing on Manuel's part. A multi million dollar failing, an entry and exposure into NYC failing, and a failing in recognizing the extra content (coach's shows' specials, etc.) that an INVESTED RSN brings to the table.

What if Manuel did everything you said he should have done and got outvoted 11-1 because its a conference-wide vote on the contract?

Oh.

I bet that idea never even crossed your mind.

 

[UConn Dan]

The only thing I wonder about is the women's bball games. There will be hell to pay without those on TV. The football games should be limited on ESPN3 since the contract stipulates that 90% of them will be on TV. I'm thinking only 2 games at most will be impacted.

But if they sold the women's bball games to ESPN, then Manuel and Aresco need to have their heads examined. No one in the conference invests in women's bball like UConn, so why is UConn subsidizing everyone? This is quite different than Texas or Michigan spreading money around since 90% of the schools it shares with have invested in top coaches and facilities.

I believe Aresco and Manuel have both said that the SNY women's deal still holds. ESPN has first rights (as it currently has) and then all other games got to SNY.

 

[metsfan2323]

From the SNY website: (unless this is from last year)

Football

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• 5 live football games
• 12 episodes of Huskies Power Hour
• 12 full game re-airs Classic football games library
• Coach's Weekly Press Conference
• Season Preview Special
• Season Review/Bowl Preview Special
• Game Preview Segments (in SportsNite)
• Post-game shows (following all SNY telecasts)
• Signing Day Press Conference
• SNY Spotlight Series: Paul Pasqualoni
• VOD features

 

[Rumrunner]

What if Manuel did everything you said he should have done and got outvoted 11-1 because its a conference-wide vote on the contract?

Oh.

I bet that idea never even crossed your mind.

Even though I'm not paid to think of that, my little brain came up with this:

UConn goes to SNY as an independent.

What's the AAC going to do? Allow it to happen and lose its biggest content and name provider? When Aresco allowed Navy to keep their Tier 1 rights? So UConn has the moral and financial leverage.

 

[Rumrunner]

I believe Aresco and Manuel have both said that the SNY women's deal still holds. ESPN has first rights (as it currently has) and then all other games got to SNY.

No. What he has said was UConn never retained its tier 2 or 3 rights to women's bb (and that they were released to sny routinely under that rubric).

This isn't about how it was routinely done in the past-it was about assuring how it will be done in the future.

UConn controlled that aspect.

Manuel screwed up.

 

[upstater]

I believe Aresco and Manuel have both said that the SNY women's deal still holds. ESPN has first rights (as it currently has) and then all other games got to SNY.

They said that, but it was prior to the contract being signed. In other words, we shall see.

 

[freescooter]

Can't wait until the UConn women end up on ESPN3 a few times, too. And mens basketball...But think of all the exposure!

 

[Rumrunner]

Can't wait until the UConn women end up on ESPN3 a few times, too. And mens basketball...But think of all the exposure!

While you're being facetious, that's exactly the plan:

The deal also includes conference-controlled women's basketball games on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN3. The men's and women's basketball tournaments will continue to be televised on ESPN's networks.

ESPN also has the rights for other conference sponsored men's and women's sports, such as baseball. ESPN also can sublicense conference games across all sports for regional and national distribution.

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/ncaa/story?storyId=9071683&src=desktop

I'm still amazed that this is coming as a surprise to anyone.

 

[UConn Dan]

As far as men’s basketball and women’s basketball, 63 percent of the new conferences games will be on national outlets in men’s basketball. The rest will likely be offered up to regional partners of the schools, such as SNY. The women’s deal is different as ESPN is going to air at least 60 games this year of women’s basketball. UConn has a deal with SNY that promises a set number of games, 17 at a minimum according to the contract. How that works itself out is uncertain.

 

[Rumrunner]

ESPN also can sublicense conference games across all sports for regional and national distribution.

That's the rub, Medic.

UConn could have mandated that it retain its tier 3 rights.

UConn is only getting $2m a year TOTAL.

How is that fair? the Big 12 got to keep its tier 3 rights, so this isn't novel.

UConn is the only school in the AAC with viable tier 3 rights. And it ceded all of its football, men's basketball and wbb tv rights to the AAC for about the price of 17 women's tier 3 games alone. Ridiculous. This can't be rationalized favorably for UConn.

 

[freescooter]

UConn requested a night kick for Maryland due to Yom Kippur.

Ok, makes sense. Not sure there are so many marquee games that night that we get bounced to the Ocho, but we might as well get comfortable there. going to be there a lot over the next few years.

 

[zls44]

Even though I'm not paid to think of that, my little brain came up with this:

UConn goes to SNY as an independent.

What's the AAC going to do? Allow it to happen and lose its biggest content and name provider? When Aresco allowed Navy to keep their Tier 1 rights? So UConn has the moral and financial leverage.

Independence was never a legitimate option, so that isn't leverage. UConn would have been just as effective saying they'd join the WAC. The response would have been "ok, go ahead".

Unfortunately, you are overvaluing UConn's place in the marketplace. Example being the thought that SNY has any interest in a UConn FB Indy schedule of Utah State and the Sun Belt. Ridiculous.

 

[Srqhusky]

That's the rub, Medic.

UConn could have mandated that it retain its tier 3 rights.

UConn is only getting $2m a year TOTAL.

How is that fair? the Big 12 got to keep its tier 3 rights, so this isn't novel.

UConn is the only school in the AAC with viable tier 3 rights. And it ceded them to the AAC for about the price of 17 women's tier 3 games alone. Ridiculous. This can't be rationalized favorably for UConn.

Dont forget we have to stay to claim our exit fees as well

 

[ConnHuskBask]

UConn wasn't in a position to demand anything.

UConn's one and only option once we were passed over was to play out this contract with the AAC, collect to exit fee money and hope we get a life raft or hope the AAC does well enough that in 6 years the tv money can get us more than just the 10% of what our peers make.

I'm not a huge WM fan because I felt like CR could've been handled better, but we have a new football OC, some decent out of conference football games lined up ( still no P5 though) and a great basketball OOC schedule this year.

The situation still sucks overall, but you can't blame WM for the tv deal.

 

[ScottBonz]

Tweeted the link out to mike enright and Kyle muncy. Lets hope they respond.

 

[huskymedic]

That's the rub, Medic.

UConn could have mandated that it retain its tier 3 rights.

UConn is only getting $2m a year TOTAL.

How is that fair? the Big 12 got to keep its tier 3 rights, so this isn't novel.

UConn is the only school in the AAC with viable tier 3 rights. And it ceded all of its football, men's basketball and wbb tv rights to the AAC for about the price of 17 women's tier 3 games alone. Ridiculous. This can't be rationalized favorably for UConn.

Not sure what leverage UConn had or didn't have to mandate anything.

I'm just not sure why peeps are jumping up and down today - this is not new news.

 

[Hoophound]

Dont forget we have to stay to claim our exit fees as well

Bingo. None of this really matters until we run out of exit fee checks and we still haven't found a new home.

 

[upstater]

Can't wait until the UConn women end up on ESPN3 a few times, too. And mens basketball...But think of all the exposure!

What in the world are you talking about? The men's bball schedule is out already. 16 games on ESPN, ESPN2 and CBS Network. To put that in perspective, a school like NC State only gets 4. This is fantastic for men's basketball.

We're still waiting to see what is going on with the women.

 

[Rumrunner]

Not sure what leverage UConn had or didn't have to mandate anything.

I'm just not sure why peeps are jumping up and down today - this is not new news.

I think it's just coming to the fore because it's impacting the more casual fan. They're used to tuning in to sny to see UConn. And with a game thurs!, people's attention is at hand.

It was this time last summer that sny announced that it was covering 4 games, having all-access type of programming.

Not a surprise that espn wants to freeze sny out based on its history.

It's just unfortunate that the positive relationship that UConn built with sny is being diminished. Having an RSN with production capabilities like sny was huge for UConn. It gave UConn something different. It was both lucrative and pronounced in the exposure it provided. Having a pregame and postgame centered on UConn was great, announcers that were vested in UConn, etc.

Not to mention the whole NYC angle when that issue has commanded out-sized attention in realignment.

But we talked about this coming to the end 6 months ago.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

What in the world are you talking about? The men's bball schedule is out already. 16 games on ESPN, ESPN2 and CBS Network. To put that in perspective, a school like NC State only gets 4. This is fantastic for men's basketball.

We're still waiting to see what is going on with the women.

Does that 16 games include ESPNU and or the broadcast CBS games?

 

[upstater]

Does that 16 games include ESPNU and or the broadcast CBS games?

It's 16 games on CBS Broadcast Over-the-Air Network (i.e. not CBS SN), ESPN and ESPN2. It doesn't include CBSSN or ESPNU or anything else. We have more national games on those channels, but I'm not counting them since they are hard to find channels just like FS2.