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I doubt just 1 or 2 players. I'm sure there will be switches too.
You are correct. I meant to say that Azzi and Lou, Nika, Aubrey and maybe some Caroline on Caitlin. Different defenders will help keep Caitlin from getting into a groove.
 
Whoever guards her, over play her right hand, keep her in front of you to make her shoot over you.
Clark is most effective when she shoots 12 foul shots a game.
 
The goal for Caitlin is not to stop her, but to contain her. As a great player she will have spurts of taking over the offense, but do not let her dominate for long. No special defenses, just the BEDPOY. Typical defensive switching. Everyone will know where she is at all times. They will have an excellent scouting report and everyone will know Caitlin's favorite spots and work to make sure she doesn't get the ball there. Aubrey may not be available to take Caitlin as an assignment because we are lacking players in the front court and Iowa has other bigs and all are experienced.

Final prediction. Caitlin is taken out of her routine in the beginning, has a better second half. She and Czinano have a good game for a normal player but well below averages. Unless player X emerges with a world class effort, UConn wins by double digits and the game is out of reach at the end of 3.
 
Aubrey may not be available to take Caitlin as an assignment because we are lacking players in the front court and Iowa has other bigs and all are experienced.
Do they? I’m not sure O’Grady is mobile enough to outplay Aaliyah. Her experience as a bit player may not matter. Stuelke is a freshman, and like Warnock she is no bigger than Caroline or Lou are.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nika outrebounding the Iowa frontcourt. She’s such a scrapper.
 
My guess is that Caitlin gets ??? fewer points because on this WEST COAST neutral court
she MAY NOT get to the free throw line as often as she usually does??!!
She does get away with straight arming her defender in the games I have witnessed. A smart defender can use that to her advantage if the officiating cooperates.
 
Nika is the wrong guard to guard Caitlin BUT Aubrey at least for the first half and Nika the second half seems safe. That Iowa shooter is exceptional, true. She is not without weaknesses. I agree the potential of Nika losing her cool is the Nika we love.
I agree with the writer who says use Nika and Griffin.

Nika has occasionally committed a frustration foul, but I can't recall her losing her cool in the last couple of years. Clark, on the other hand, certainly loses her cool to the point of yelling at teammates. Nika can get under opposing players' skin, and Clark is a prime candidate for that. (I don't mean that should be a strategy, just that Nika's style of play can be frustrating to the opposition and Clark can become frustrated.) I agree with defending Clark primarily with Nika and Aubrey, but allowing defense by committee.

As has been pointed out, Czinano is the other player to worry about. What hasn't been pointed out is that it's really unlikely that any other Iowa player will go off. I think Warnock is the only other Iowa player who's scored 15 points in a game this season. Once.

From my PoV, UConn's focus needs to be playing Clark without getting into foul trouble. Czinano has gone to the foul line over five times only once this season (against the undersized Drake, and that game went into OT, so the strategy wasn't that effective.) I think Lou and Caroline can effectively cover Warnock. Marshall is a really good shooter who just hasn't been looking for her shot the last couple of years. Some of the bench players are pretty good, but I don't see the rest of the team other than Clark and Czinano scoring more than 30.

The only way UConn scores below 90 or Iowa scores above 75 is if a couple of key UConn players have to sit half the game.
 
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Azzi has played Clark a lot over the years. I agree that it's a team approach to stop her. We can't let our bigs get into foul trouble because that's probably the key to beating us now. If AE is on the bench we are in trouble.
 
So, Nika WAS the primary defender on Caitlin:
1. She only committed 2 fouls (point to Nika!)
2. Clark shot 9-24 (.375) vs. Ave of .472 before this game(pt to Nika!)
3. Clark was 2-11 on 3pt (.182) vs. Ave of .340 before fame (pt to Nika!)
4. Caitlin had 6 assists vs. her 7 average before this game (draw)
5. CC had 3 turnovers vs. 2.5 per game prior (draw).

Nika was also sick (as in under the weather) and was SICK in the game on how well she played!
while there was some switching on/off of Caitlin, Nika was the always picking her up at half court. Hopefully this game has swayed many of the concerning comments on this thread-what say you @Charliebball ? :rolleyes:
 
So, Nika WAS the primary defender on Caitlin:
1. She only committed 2 fouls (point to Nika!)
2. Clark shot 9-24 (.375) vs. Ave of .472 before this game(pt to Nika!)
3. Clark was 2-11 on 3pt (.182) vs. Ave of .340 before fame (pt to Nika!)
4. Caitlin had 6 assists vs. her 7 average before this game (draw)
5. CC had 3 turnovers vs. 2.5 per game prior (draw).

Nika was also sick (as in under the weather) and was SICK in the game on how well she played!
while there was some switching on/off of Caitlin, Nika was the always picking her up at half court. Hopefully this game has swayed many of the concerning comments on this thread-what say you @Charliebball ? :rolleyes:
Couple what you posted with, as per Geno, Nika felt she played a bad game today! She did what she did today covering one of the best offensive players in the country, stayed out there 40 minutes while sick and I have no doubt never let her team quit on themselves. She is just a really special player, enjoy her for these last two seasons of her Uconn career because it will be a long time before you see another one like her. All heart, tough as nails and lives to represent Uconn wcbb the right way! Absolutely love this kid, as I am sure her coaches and teammates do as well.
 
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Nika is NOT fouling this year like last year. Apparently she has found a better way of checking without fouling. Aubrey is a tenacious defender and her height will be effective against Clark. The edge that always goes to Uconn is their team play and cohesiveness performing their attacks at the basket. Iowa will put up a fight, but it will not be enough to stop the Huskies! Uconn all the way! GO HUSKIES!!!
OOHLALA!!! Was I right or was I right. They put up a fantastic challenge, especially their 3 point shooting, which kept them in the game until Uconn being Uconn finished the game Uconn style. Congratulations!!! GO HUSKIES!!!
 
The key isn’t to shut Clark down, but to make her contribution irrelevant. I think her relevance to the game will depend in part on the score. If we build a big lead in the 3rd quarter, I suspect Iowa will try too hard to get Clark shot opportunities in the 4th quarter and their team concept will falter. I’d think using Aubrey judiciously to guard her in the 2nd and 3rd quarters will help us build that lead.

That 3rd quarter should belong to us. If it does, the game is effectively over.
Boy, were you right. You have some crystal ball. Great post.
 
So, Nika WAS the primary defender on Caitlin:
1. She only committed 2 fouls (point to Nika!)
2. Clark shot 9-24 (.375) vs. Ave of .472 before this game(pt to Nika!)
3. Clark was 2-11 on 3pt (.182) vs. Ave of .340 before fame (pt to Nika!)
4. Caitlin had 6 assists vs. her 7 average before this game (draw)
5. CC had 3 turnovers vs. 2.5 per game prior (draw).

Nika was also sick (as in under the weather) and was SICK in the game on how well she played!
while there was some switching on/off of Caitlin, Nika was the always picking her up at half court. Hopefully this game has swayed many of the concerning comments on this thread-what say you @Charliebball ? :rolleyes:
Couple what you posted with, as per Geno, Nika felt she played a bad game today! She did what she did today covering one of the best offensive players in the country, stayed out there 40 minutes while sick and I have no doubt never let her team quit on themselves. She is just a really special player, enjoy her for these last two seasons of her Uconn career because it will be a long time before you see another one like her. All heart, tough as nails and lives to represent Uconn wcbb the right way! Absolutely love this kid, as I am sure her coaches and teammates do as well.
Well said by DefenseBB and #12in21. I wholeheartedly agree Nika did a really good job keeping Caitlin from going off for a really big game. One stat you didn't note, and I know this will draw plenty of dislikes: Caitlin did score 25 points and Nika had 2. My point is that scoring is a big part of basketball and Nika doesn't have to worry about that, pretty much at all. She's excellent at the facets of the game within her skill set.
 
Nika picked up that first ticky tack foul so early that I think she was just afraid to get another and have to sit. That gave Clark more breathing room in the first half than she would have otherwise gotten. Second half Nika knew she had more fouls to give and I think Clark’s frustration showed it.
 
Nika picked up that first ticky tack foul so early that I think she was just afraid to get another and have to sit. That gave Clark more breathing room in the first half than she would have otherwise gotten. Second half Nika knew she had more fouls to give and I think Clark’s frustration showed it.
Give Nika, UConn's defense, and Clark credit. Geno had Clark doubled out past the key. Clark still got points, but was under control. Nika did well but would never want to have to guard Caitlin one on one. Too quick particularly for her size.
 
Give Nika, UConn's defense, and Clark credit. Geno had Clark doubled out past the key. Clark still got points, but was under control. Nika did well but would never want to have to guard Caitlin one on one. Too quick particularly for her size.
They all get a lot of credit, but I think it’s been pretty widely stated (by coaches and players) that Nika sets the tone. When she can’t be as intense as she wants to be, I do think that permeates to the rest of the team.

But, yes, I agree that limiting Clark was definitely a team effort. I just think Nika was able to be more defensively intense in her assignment on Clark in the second half and that made a lot of difference.
 
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Give Nika, UConn's defense, and Clark credit. Geno had Clark doubled out past the key. Clark still got points, but was under control. Nika did well but would never want to have to guard Caitlin one on one. Too quick particularly for her size.
Clark was not doubled except a couple of times off the high pick. Muhl’s primary work was done when Clark gave up the ball. NO great player can be stopped one on one. Muhl contained her and that’s all that can be reasonably expected when playing someone as good as Clark.
 
So, Nika WAS the primary defender on Caitlin:
1. She only committed 2 fouls (point to Nika!)
2. Clark shot 9-24 (.375) vs. Ave of .472 before this game(pt to Nika!)
3. Clark was 2-11 on 3pt (.182) vs. Ave of .340 before fame (pt to Nika!)
4. Caitlin had 6 assists vs. her 7 average before this game (draw)
5. CC had 3 turnovers vs. 2.5 per game prior (draw).

Nika was also sick (as in under the weather) and was SICK in the game on how well she played!
while there was some switching on/off of Caitlin, Nika was the always picking her up at half court. Hopefully this game has swayed many of the concerning comments on this thread-what say you @Charliebball ? :rolleyes:
I'm thrilled that she stayed out of serious foul trouble...........she clearly limited her physical contact and didn't get caught making those tiki tak fouls that have afflicted her in the past.........to do that while being under the weather is an amazing accomplishment..........BTW I said she had a 50%/50% chance of fouling out..........I also said I was concerned that Edwards might run into foul trouble against Czinano and she did but she was magnificent at both ends of the court......I think I also predicted it would be a seven point win.............so all in all, I'm content with the outcome and most of my predictions..........frankly as long as UConn wins and nobody gets hurt I'm a happy camper........
 
I did wonder today why we didn’t see much full court press that’s been really key for UConn defensively in the first few games. Possibly just a need to conserve energy or a decision based on Iowa’s shooting personnel. It was weird to see Iowa full court press more than UConn!
 
Well said by DefenseBB and #12in21. I wholeheartedly agree Nika did a really good job keeping Caitlin from going off for a really big game. One stat you didn't note, and I know this will draw plenty of dislikes: Caitlin did score 25 points and Nika had 2. My point is that scoring is a big part of basketball and Nika doesn't have to worry about that, pretty much at all. She's excellent at the facets of the game within her skill set.
Muhl has a role on the team, as does Clark, defined by the coaches. I don’t dislike your comment at all, after all it is just an opinion, but I guess you have missed the several times in press conferences Auriemma has said that there is more pressure on Muhl to perform this year than any other Uconn player.
 
Muhl has a role on the team, as does Clark, defined by the coaches. I don’t dislike your comment at all, after all it is just an opinion, but I guess you have missed the several times in press conferences Auriemma has said that there is more pressure on Muhl to perform this year than any other Uconn player.
Thanks for your thoughts, Littlemin... I remember well hearing Geno's comments to that effect, and Nika has risen to the occasion. I give her full credit for all her numerous contributions. I qualify that only for yesterday when so many gave her credit for what they saw as her one on one D to shut down Clark.

In fact, after watching the replay, I noticed numerous times, even in the second half, that Caitlin got past Nika and was picked up immediately by Azzi, Lou, Caroline, even Aaliyah on a couple of memorable plays. As you, Argonaut and HopJim all noted immediately above, it was the Huskies' superb D that limited Caitlin. Add in the great job by Aaliyah (and Ayanna) on Czinano and we had a formula for victory.
 
Thanks for your thoughts, Littlemin... I remember well hearing Geno's comments to that effect, and Nika has risen to the occasion. I give her full credit for all her numerous contributions. I qualify that only for yesterday when so many gave her credit for what they saw as her one on one D to shut down Clark.
I played NAIA college ball at 5’9””; I had a friend I played with in HS who played guard at Wake Forest at 6’4””. I had no obvious physical skills over him, maybe a quarter step of quickness that was more than compensated for by his height advantage. BUT, Neil couldn’t begin to cover me one on one because I knew where I was going and what shot I wanted; one in one defense is by and large 100% reactive when the offensive player has the ball.
Muhl contained Clark, not stopped or shut her down, but contained her the only way possible, limiting her touches, staying in front of her as much as possible, and trying to make her take a little tougher shot than she wanted and hope she misses. Did she have help, absolutely she did. Did Uconn switch sometimes on the screens, absolutely. But as evidently attested to by the TV quote attributed to Clark, Muhl got in her head a bit and limited Clark’s involvement by playing superb face guarding ball denial, and that was all Muhl.
 
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Nika's game yesterday was a classic case of the greatness stats don't always capture. Only 2 pts, but she effectively contained Clark. yes, she got help -- this is a team, after all -- and Clark got help from her team trying to scrape Nika off her, but to no avail. Nika was the primary defender and Clark's contributions were not allowed to decide the game. Could Azzi or Aubrey have done as well? Probably, but Geno wanted their attention elsewhere.

And there was a cost to the rest of Nika's game -- she still got 13 assists, but she wasn't quite as prominent a leader on offense as she's been in previous games. It showed in those moments when the offense seemed listless.

Also, just to observe for the record, Nika's 2 points came on a drive to the hoop in the half court offense -- the exact thing we wanted her to add to her offensive arsenal this summer, and there it was.
 
Clark has Paige's NBA range with the 3 and the ego/nerve to fire it off more often than Paige. Nika's defense was very good. You can contain Clark, not shut her down. Seems to me that Clark doesn't have Paige's ball handling skills, so a lot of her inside moves are easy reads.
 
I played NAIA college ball at 5’9””; I had a friend I played with in HS who played guard at Wake Forest at 6’4””. I had no obvious physical skills over him, maybe a quarter step of quickness that was more than compensated for by his height advantage. BUT, Neil couldn’t begin to cover me one on one because I knew where I was going and what shot I wanted; one in one defense is by and large 100% reactive when the offensive player has the ball.
Muhl contained Clark, not stopped or shut her down, but contained her the only way possible, limiting her touches, staying in front of her as much as possible, and trying to make her take a little tougher shot than she wanted and hope she misses. Did she have help, absolutely she did. Did Uconn switch sometimes on the screens, absolutely. But as evidently attested to by the TV quote attributed to Clark, Muhl got in her head a bit and limited Clark’s involvement by playing superb face guarding ball denial, and that was all Muhl.
All well said, Littlemin...

Just as an aside regarding your ex-teammate Neil, that wouldn't happen to be Neil Pastushok? If so, he was a solid player for the Deacons, probably best remembered for being a four-year teammate of Wake all-timer Charlie Davis and standout big man Gil McGregor.
 
All well said, Littlemin...

Just as an aside regarding your ex-teammate Neil, that wouldn't happen to be Neil Pastushok? If so, he was a solid player for the Deacons, probably best remembered for being a four-year teammate of Wake all-timer Charlie Davis and standout big man Gil McGregor.
Wow, small world, yes it was; averaged about 11 or so at WF; an off the charts great HS player who is best remembered at Roselle Park HS in NJ (home of Rick Barry) for scoring 40 in a state championship losing effort in Atlantic City against Burlington. Me, I remember him best for making two foul shots after the buzzer vs. our arch-rivals Roselle. He was fouled at the buzzer and fans from both schools rushed the court thinking the game over. Finally the police formed a human wall around the foul line area and Neil dropped in both with fans pretty much literally screaming in his ears. I was a sophomore, Neil a senior but basketball in Roselle Park had a great playground feeder system out of Sherman School, an elementary school playground that at one time attracted HS and college players from the wider Union County area. In addition to Barry, frequently John Morrison, who lived in Roselle Park but went to Seton Hall Prep, played at Canisius and got a cup of coffee with Denver in the ABA, was there. Great memories, great games…………
 
Well said by DefenseBB and #12in21. I wholeheartedly agree Nika did a really good job keeping Caitlin from going off for a really big game. One stat you didn't note, and I know this will draw plenty of dislikes: Caitlin did score 25 points and Nika had 2. My point is that scoring is a big part of basketball and Nika doesn't have to worry about that, pretty much at all. She's excellent at the facets of the game within her skill set.
Volume shooting is my retort- 24 shots to get those points. Caitlin hurt her team by not distributing to the hot hand more-Kate Martin for example. Clark is a unique example unlike anyone else in WCBB so a point guard to point guard comparison for any point guard is skewed against that opponent. The other aspect is Clark did not always guard Nika, so Nika worked on both ends of the floor.
 
Clark is terrific and yesterday showed her shooting prowess and her force contact drives that ensure buckets from the charity stripe. Tournament Shea made a living doing that ! And Clark’s range and touch are terrific. Nika was relentless all night and it mattered.
 
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