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WhereistheDove? said:
Grew up in Ffld County and never new a single Pats fan until 2001 and never knew a single Red Sox fan until 2004. Now there's tons of them. Weird.
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Fairfield?

That's not evidence of anything, really.

I can remember the 1970s and the neighborhood battles half Red Sox, half Yankees.

I mean, you guys are NYC suburbanites, and you're telling us that your area of Connecticut had a New York tilt.
 
upstater said:
Fairfield?

That's not evidence of anything, really.

I can remember the 1970s and the neighborhood battles half Red Sox, half Yankees.

I mean, you guys are NYC suburbanites, and you're telling us that your area of Connecticut had a New York tilt.
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Yeah, I grew up in Manchester in the 70's-80s. It was at least 80-20 Red Sox to Yankees. On the football side, Patriots were the most popular team by far, followed by a mix of Steelers, Cowboys and Giants fans. Never met a Mets or Jets fan until I got to UConn. But Manchester also had a lot of transplants (like my family from KC) due to insurance and P&W.
 
I knew exactly one Yankee fan in the Horace Clarke era. The rest hopped aboard once they got good.
 
Pgh2Storrs said:
I hated the pick. I despise Pitt with every fiber of my soul and don’t buy the love for Pickett. If he had gone anywhere but Pitt, I don’t think we take him. Two years in a row we’ve absolutely botched our first round picks.

As you mentioned, I spent the last 15 or so years hating our QB so making it another 4-5 until Pickett is gone won’t be too much of a chore
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Hope you weren't thinking of taking a CB instead, given Tomlin's inability to develop any early round CB during his tenure.

I married into Pitt, so I watched most of the games last year. They were a fun team to watch. I was able to experience something that no UConn fan has in years - confidence that the QB would lead the team downfield when needed. love his leadership and football IQ, he's accurate, can make all the throws needed, and can escape when needed. He's not Mahomes, but he might be Romo.
 
Waquoit said:
I knew exactly one Yankee fan in the Horace Clarke era. The rest hopped aboard once they got good.
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I still remember the 1969 lineup vividly.

One thing most Patriots fans either do not or neglect to remember is how close that franchise came to moving to St Louis in 1992.
 
Deepster said:
I grew up in central CT and never knew a single Pats fan growing up. Not a one. Not a single person in my entire grade school was a Patriots fan.

Giants, Steelers, Cowboys, even Oilers and Dolphins. Not a single Pats fan.
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I'm a different generation than you (I think) and from Northwest CT. but had the exact same experience growing up. Didn't know a single Patriots fan. A lot of Giants fans, less Jets fans and then Niners and Cowboys fans. With a couple Fins, Bills, and Eagles fans mixed in.
 
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Ready for Jets to crush my dreams and take Nakobe Dean with the Giants pick here
 
Deepster said:
6th through 8th grade from 1979-1981, high school in 1985, college in 1990. Not a Pats fan in sight the entire time.
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For a guy who hates the Patriots you sure post a lot with your patriot takes
 
Giants trading down twice interesting wanna know what the trade details are.
 
Trading down from 36 NYG ended up at #43 and added #114 and #146 and didn't lose having availability of Dean at LB, Trey McBride #1 TE, Safety Nick Cross, Why take a fragile 5'8 180lb WR at 43 that is on lists at 80? We haven't had a player that size survive to even meaningfully play. I would have preferred a much surer pick and go for this type of player way later
 
Ricker said:
Trading down from 36 NYG ended up at #43 and added #114 and #146 and didn't lose having availability of Dean at LB, Trey McBride #1 TE, Safety Nick Cross, Why take a fragile 5'8 180lb WR at 43 that is on lists at 80? We haven't had a player that size survive to even meaningfully play. I would have preferred a much surer pick and go for this type of player way later
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Yeah idk about the pick. Wanted a LB or CB. Maybe this means the rumors about trading Toney are true…Wouldn’t like that, but apparently he’s been a bit of a headache, and is constantly injured.
 
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Ricker said:
Trading down from 36 NYG ended up at #43 and added #114 and #146 and didn't lose having availability of Dean at LB, Trey McBride #1 TE, Safety Nick Cross, Why take a fragile 5'8 180lb WR at 43 that is on lists at 80? We haven't had a player that size survive to even meaningfully play. I would have preferred a much surer pick and go for this type of player way later
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Seems like a bit of a reach since he was being mocked in the late 2nd, would have preferred a different WR. But this is the exact type of player Daboll and Kafka have thrived with in KC and Buffalo so trying to give it a chance. The size doesn't bother me, can have a lot of fun with him and Toney moving all around
 
superjohn said:
Surprised Travis Jones is still waiting to hear his name, somebody is going to get a steal.
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Lotta guys surprisingly still on the board. I have no idea how Dean is still available, and Skyy Moore is better than most the WR’s that have gone in the 2nd
 
I understand Mel Kiper's ratings aren't the gospel, but going at #67 for the OL he has rated at #151 just doesn't seem smart. Would seem like the guy would for sure be available with your #81 pick and likely even with picks at #112 and #114. I don't have a personal view towards the players with the last 2 picks, but it seems they would have both been there later. Not impressed with round #2 strategy

Now up to #77 and only 4 players on Kipers list from 100 to 151 have been picked. Moreover, Ezeudu is the lowest rated guy in the whole draft so far, and we used pick #67 to get him?
 
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Boy, Kiper really sold UConn there: “This guy didn’t produce as well as he could have because there was no talent around him.”
 
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The last 3 picks seem to be reaches from the Giants, but we won’t know until we see them play
 
Robinson was a decent pick, but the next 2 have been getting progressively worse
 
nomar said:
Boy, Kiper really sold UConn there: “This guy didn’t produce as well as he could have because there was no talent around him.”
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Pretty accurate really. Meanwhile the Patriots made a pick much much worse than yesterday. Just abominable reality.
 
I loved the 2 trades back from 36 to 38 then to 43 while adding picks 114 & 146 for that small move back. Great tactical move but then I think there was much better value available at 43, 67, and 81 than they used the picks for.

My preferences:
@43 TE Trey McBride 6'3 246lb Colorado St (went 55) Kiper 46, 1st team all-amer, top TE, Mackey Award,
@67 G Dylan Parham 6'2 311lb Memphis (went 90) Kiper 95, 3rd best guard in draft, says all pro future,
@81 S Nick Cross 6'0 212lb Maryland (went 96) Kiper 75, fast safety with size at position of need

Giants went:
@43 WR Wan'Dale Robinson 5'8 178lb Kentucky Kiper 80, small target
@67 G Joshua Ezeudu 6'4 308 North Carolina Kiper 151 !! Only picks 93, 104, 105 drafted lower
@81 CB Cordale Flott 6'0 175lb LSU Kiper 85, physically tall but really thin, less of a reach

Additional possibility:
LB Channing Tindall 6'2 230lb Georgia (went 102) Kiper 79, very fast and aggressive in position of need
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yeah, I grew up in Manchester in the 70's-80s. It was at least 80-20 Red Sox to Yankees. On the football side, Patriots were the most popular team by far, followed by a mix of Steelers, Cowboys and Giants fans. Never met a Mets or Jets fan until I got to UConn. But Manchester also had a lot of transplants (like my family from KC) due to insurance and P&W.
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I was a Pratt brat growing up next door on Minnechaug Mountain in Glastonbury during the 70s and 80s. I’d say the split was a lot closer to 50-50. Certainly nowhere near 80-20 (in either direction).
 
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storrsroars said:
Hope you weren't thinking of taking a CB instead, given Tomlin's inability to develop any early round CB during his tenure.

I married into Pitt, so I watched most of the games last year. They were a fun team to watch. I was able to experience something that no UConn fan has in years - confidence that the QB would lead the team downfield when needed. love his leadership and football IQ, he's accurate, can make all the throws needed, and can escape when needed. He's not Mahomes, but he might be Romo.
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I wanted to gamble on Willis or go DL/OL. It took about 8 years, an awful ACC scheduled, and an all world WR before Pickett looked like a star. He turns the ball over and after having to deal with Ben’s dead arm, I worry about Pickett’s deep ball ability as he didn’t hit many big plays at Pitt.

If Pickett went anywhere other than Pitt, the optics of this look different. Art Rooney II’s fingerprints are on the last 2 first round picks and that’s not a good thing.
 
nomar said:
Boy, Kiper really sold UConn there: “This guy didn’t produce as well as he could have because there was no talent around him.”
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There is a glass half full way to look at it which says despite the lack of talent around him this guy stood out
 
Pgh2Storrs said:
I wanted to gamble on Willis or go DL/OL.
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So you wanted a guy who ducked QB competition at Auburn to go to a CUSA team, was worse than Pickett in Y/A, INT%, can't throw an out pattern, is wildly inaccurate throwing on the run, and has no touch.
 
storrsroars said:
So you wanted a guy who ducked QB competition at Auburn to go to a CUSA team, was worse than Pickett in Y/A, INT%, can't throw an out pattern, is wildly inaccurate throwing on the run, and has no touch.
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Big risk, big reward. You can’t cite his school being in a lesser league without acknowledging he had lesser talent around him.

Willis has a much higher ceiling, Pickett is all about the floor. We’re never going to be bad enough to pick in the top 5 where you’re getting a good chance at a surefire star so there’s going to always be some risk. I’d rather bet on ironing out Willis’ deficiencies and maxing out his athleticism/arm.
 
storrsroars said:
So you wanted a guy who ducked QB competition at Auburn to go to a CUSA team, was worse than Pickett in Y/A, INT%, can't throw an out pattern, is wildly inaccurate throwing on the run, and has no touch.
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I think Ridder was probably the best and Corral may become Drew Brees. But all these guys are big questions.
 
Pgh2Storrs said:
Big risk, big reward. You can’t cite his school being in a lesser league without acknowledging he had lesser talent around him.
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Likewise, he played against worse defenses in that league. Maybe go watch the Liberty @ Ole Miss game again. Awful.
 
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