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Well, at least he eliminated special teams from consideration. Anyone ready to take a 1st rd punter?
 
Holy crap.

Bridgewater looked like Christian Ponder in those highlights.

But, still, I choose to believe that the Vikings just drafted the next great Viking quarterback. (Don't ask me who the last one was.)
 
noeynox said:
He Actually Said You Can Either Go Offense Or Defense With This Pick. Really Ray, Really?
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I saw him play against Miami and he was special, that was his analysis on each player. Espin is try way too hard to appeal to the average sports fan.
 
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ktuck911 said:
Watching the draft on the NFL Network is better
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When I did my cable box cleanup, I lost valuable networks like NFL and MLB. I agree with you though. ESPiN is garbage. You're better off streaming the draft online on any website than listening to how Ray Lewis thinks every player is great because he watched him against Miami or knows what teams need based on watching them play on MNF. Gruden's love affair with Johnny Manziel was sickening too. ESPiN was better off with Todd McShay and Mel Kiper arguing over their own rankings (as if they mattered) than what they aired last night.
 
NFL Network is MUUUUUUCH better. Berman is almost cartoonish.

I was looking at player rankings (McShay?) and was surprised to see Stephen much higher ranked than Smallwood. I think Stephen was around 107 and Smallwood was 197. Makes you wonder if a year under Diaco and better training would have gotten Smallwood a better position in the draft.

I also looked at QB rankings and Michael Box was #32 QB. Yes...that Michael Box.
 
Unfortunatly I don't get NFL network, I expect that they will have Mcshay there for at least the 3rd day.
 
noeynox said:
He Actually Said You Can Either Go Offense Or Defense With This Pick. Really Ray, Really?
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My personal favorite was when the Saints were on the clock, he was adamant that the Saints go with defense. Then they take the WR from Oregon St. And Lewis loves the pick.
 
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Everyone knows it was Wade Wilson.
Fishy said:
Holy crap.

Bridgewater looked like Christian Ponder in those highlights.

But, still, I choose to believe that the Vikings just drafted the next great Viking quarterback. (Don't ask me who the last one was.)
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Dynasty said:
Manziel was projected to go 4th to the Browns but now went 22nd to the Browns. Great value.
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I just don't see him being that successful in the NFL. His first instict is almost always to roll out of the pocket and someone is going to have to seriously alter that for him to survive in the NFL. That creativeness and elusiveness needs to be a weapon in his game in the NFL, while it was his entire game in college.
 
Watt and Clowney together is a scary prospect. Two straight up athletic freaks and if Watt can push Clowney to anywhere near the motor that he has, those two are going to wreak havoc together.
 
Fishy said:
Holy crap.

Bridgewater looked like Christian Ponder in those highlights.

But, still, I choose to believe that the Vikings just drafted the next great Viking quarterback. (Don't ask me who the last one was.)
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Randall Cunningham, but he was really the Eagles QB in disguise for a season - oh so close to the big game.
 
I love that NFL Network doesn't ruin the pick before Goodell announces it....ESPN shows the player talking on the phone and clearly gives it away
 
Fishy said:
Holy crap.

Bridgewater looked like Christian Ponder in those highlights.

But, still, I choose to believe that the Vikings just drafted the next great Viking quarterback. (Don't ask me who the last one was.)
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Joe Kapp was the last great one
 
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The Pats taking Jimmy Garappolo has me excited. I have no idea who the heck he is but I really like him. Classy kid. Well spoken. Quick gun.
 
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Watching people on twitter, and some of them fairly educated football people, wonder about that pick for NE makes me laugh.

  1. Brady will be what, 37 in week 1? There has to be a succession plan.
  2. This guy is under their control for 4 years (5 if you want to include a franchise tag)
  3. Too early for a qb? 2nd round picks under BB are usually not called upon anyway unless injury force their need as rookies. Even Gronk was considered a 2nd or 3rd te as a rookie.
  4. They have other needs? Well, they have weapons already. Young wr's who are developing and cheap, free agent (re)signings in LaFell and Edelman, two very capable running backs (3 if you thing Bolden is anything), and a game changer at TE.
  5. The draft isn't over AND they have free agents who they have had contact with like Dustin Keller and Michael Bush to round out roster spots.
 
I'm not a Pats fan but living in Boston I see them play a lot. If I were a fan, I dunno how I'd feel going in to another season with Edelman and Amendola as my two best/most proven receivers. Yeah Brady is getting old but it's not like this is his last year. He's signed until 2017. And obviously the successor of Tom Brady is not going to play until Brady is gone. So you're giving up on a potential instant impact player for a 3 or 4-year project. I will say, the guy they picked for said project could have been a lot worse. This is probably about as high as you can draft a QB and get away with giving him a clipboard for a few years.

edit but of course, this has to happen eventually.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
I'm not a Pats fan but living in Boston I see them play a lot. If I were a fan, I dunno how I'd feel going in to another season with Edelman and Amendola as my two best/most proven receivers. Yeah Brady is getting old but it's not like this is his last year. He's signed until 2017. And obviously the successor of Tom Brady is not going to play until Brady is gone. So you're giving up on a potential instant impact player for a 3 or 4-year project. I will say, the guy they picked for said project could have been a lot worse. This is probably about as high as you can draft a QB and get away with giving him a clipboard for a few years.

edit but of course, this has to happen eventually.
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Well, I think that Aaron Rogers disputes your comment about where a qb can be drafted. It is more a case of the situation the qb is being put in.

People expect someone drafted to step right in and contribute but can you definitively say that drafting a wr in round two would have given you someone who can beat out a group who have been in the system over a year? As someone smarter than me pointed out, why is it ok to add depth at wr/dl/rb/etc but not at the most important position on the field?

You have an offensive core mainly on rookie deals (Ridley, Vareen, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce...) and you take a huge cap hit cutting Amendola this year so you aren't saving anything by drafting another young wr.
 
dsturdy5 said:
People expect someone drafted to step right in and contribute but can you definitively say that drafting a wr in round two would have given you someone who can beat out a group who have been in the system over a year? As someone smarter than me pointed out, why is it ok to add depth at wr/dl/rb/etc but not at the most important position on the field?

You have an offensive core mainly on rookie deals (Ridley, Vareen, Thompkins, Dobson, Boyce...) and you take a huge cap hit cutting Amendola this year so you aren't saving anything by drafting another young wr.
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No, nobody can definitively say anything, and I'm not saying it isn't okay that they made the pick they did. I guess not being a religious follower of the Pats I have no idea what the team can expect of the young guys next year.

edit how would you feel if they took Landry instead?
 
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Rocktheworld said:
No, nobody can definitively say anything, and I'm not saying it isn't okay that they made the pick they did. I guess not being a religious follower of the Pats I have no idea what the team can expect of the young guys next year.

edit how would you feel if they took Landry instead?
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He's similar to what is on the roster in terms of physical build. If they were going to go wr, I'd want a bigger, red zone target. That is what hurt them vs Miami last year. LaFell, who is no sure thing to make it out of camp, is their only "big" possession wr as of now. There are plenty of big wr's left if they choose to go that way. The only one in the range of the late 2nd round was Allen Robinson. However, is that as big a need as back up qb, safety, interior OL, or reserve LB? That is the question that must be answered in the war room. Honestly, the answer won't be known until Garopollo is asked to take some meaningful snaps.

That all being said, after getting Revis, Browner, and Smith, resigning Edelman and Wilfork, and getting guys like Gronk, Mayo, Kelly, and Vollmer back from injury there aren't a ton of spots available for significant time next year. Their thinking is probably along the line that they can get really talented guys who will fill out #'s 40-53 on the roster and develop while some of the older players wrap up their careers.
 
dsturdy5 said:
He's similar to what is on the roster in terms of physical build. If they were going to go wr, I'd want a bigger, red zone target.
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Pretty much what I was thinking; just looked at the draft board and Landry was the first decent name I saw drafted at a similar point in the round, just looking for an overall reaction to drafting another WR.

I honestly know nothing about the Pats's defensive needs. You got me there.
 
dsturdy5 said:
Watching people on twitter, and some of them fairly educated football people, wonder about that pick for NE makes me laugh.


  1. [ ]Brady will be what, 37 in week 1? There has to be a succession plan.
    [ ]This guy is under their control for 4 years (5 if you want to include a franchise tag)
    [ ]Too early for a qb? 2nd round picks under BB are usually not called upon anyway unless injury force their need as rookies. Even Gronk was considered a 2nd or 3rd te as a rookie.
    [ ]They have other needs? Well, they have weapons already. Young wr's who are developing and cheap, free agent (re)signings in LaFell and Edelman, two very capable running backs (3 if you thing Bolden is anything), and a game changer at TE.
    [ ]The draft isn't over AND they have free agents who they have had contact with like Dustin Keller and Michael Bush to round out roster spots.
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I like the pick. The Pats obviously had him rated higher. QB position is your lifeblood. What are the chances that Brady gets through 4 seasons unscathed - assuming he plays 4 more years? I think it's reasonable to believe another QB will start 10-16 games for the Pats over the next 4 years either way. A big WR target should be next on the board, but what they really need is a healthy Gronk.
 
huskypantz said:
I like the pick. The Pats obviously had him rated higher. QB position is your lifeblood. What are the chances that Brady gets through 4 seasons unscathed - assuming he plays 4 more years? I think it's reasonable to believe another QB will start 10-16 games for the Pats over the next 4 years either way. A big WR target should be next on the board, but what they really need is a healthy Gronk.
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I was hoping we would draft CJ Fiedorwizc (spelling is wrong) since he was the only TE left, and then go to McCarron in the 3rd.. oh well. At least we will get to see Browner match up with Amaro on the jets
 
....Just 8 teams have had 3 or more players drafted in the first 100 players, 3 rounds.


5 - LSU
5 - Notre Dame
4 - Florida State
4 - Louisville
4 - Ohio State
3 - Alabama
3 - Auburn
3 - Texas A&M

31 - Total

31% of all players drafted, so far, have come from these 8 schools.
 
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