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Husky25 said:
These guys are all listed 2 inches taller in the program than they are in reality as it is. Omar Calhoun is probably 6'-4 1/2" and he plays on the outside. I just want his shot to return so he can re-enter the top 8 in the rotation. IF he can do that, It would go a long way (along with Hamilton) to replace the production lost of Daniels and Giffey. I think what UConn will really miss are the 5 fouls that Olander afforded them.
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Pretty sure Rock can give 5 fouls if needed. And they will be a lot more physical fouls than Olander offered.

On the height thing, not always true. For instance, Bazz listed at 6'1. Graded out approximately the same with shoes. But yeah, don't think Omar is 6'6.

It not absolute, but it's a good bet, that Boat won't be able to replicate Kembazz Naplker. That said, I am in a Moneyball State of Mind. I'm looking for some combination of the 2013-14 non-contributors to replicate the stats vacated by Napier, Giffey, Daniels, Olander and Kromah. I think Purvis, Hamilton, Calhoun Facey, and a sprinkle of Cassell can do it.
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Boat doesn't have to replace Shabazz. He just has to do what he was doing at the end of the year. Neither Shabazz nor Walker played with a player as talented as Purvis next to them most of the year (both Lamb and Boat stepped up in the postseason). Hopefully we'll be more balanced next year.
 
intlzncster said:
Pretty sure Rock can give 5 fouls if needed. And they will be a lot more physical fouls than Olander offered.
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Except that Rock isn't a third-stringer, like Olander was. He has to take minutes that went to Daniels, too.
 
intlzncster said:
Boat doesn't have to replace Shabazz. He just has to do what he was doing at the end of the year. Neither Shabazz nor Walker played with a player as talented as Purvis next to them most of the year (both Lamb and Boat stepped up in the postseason). Hopefully we'll be more balanced next year.
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Actually Boat can't replace Shabazz by virtue of he was on last year's team. Boat has to fill Boat's shoes. The guys that did not contribute much have to replace the guys who left. But I am under no illusions that Ollie will force this year's team to play like last year's. He will design his strategy and plays to take advantage of these guys' strengths.

You are absolutely correct that Boatright has to play like he did at the end of last year. Need to stop the ball and lock down that point guard.
 
Husky25 said:
Actually Boat can't replace Shabazz by virtue of he was on last year's team. Boat has to fill Boat's shoes. The guys that did not contribute much have to replace the guys who left. But I am under no illusions that Ollie will force this year's team to play like last year's. He will design his strategy and plays to take advantage of these guys' strengths.

You are absolutely correct that Boatright has to play like he did at the end of last year. Need to stop the ball and lock down that point guard.
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That's what I was saying (or trying to at any rate)! :) I also think Boat has room to improve next year as well.
 
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For UCONN to be VG Boat has to improve on his 39% FG. He will be taking many more very important shots ie when the clock is running down, he must knock a much higher % of these shots down.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Yeah. Seems doable, right?
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Well you sure sound like someone who knows what he's talking about. Why don't you tell us, so we can tell the trainers at UConn, the program you would design to get a kid to put on 25 lbs of muscle. Because that's like 40-50 total pounds.
 
Lots of optimism here. I'm looking forward to how this team comes together too, but I have strong concerns.

We will be weaker at the 1 and the 4.

You could make the argument that we lost our 3 best players from last year.

While we have a lot of flexibility at guard/wing, we have 2 very foull prone centers that haven't been good scorers or rebounders. Our most promising 5 is losing time due to surgery.

Our PFs are untested. You really can't play Nolan at the 4 much because you need him to cover Amidah's foul tendencies.

I doubt any of our taller guards will equal Shabazz's rebounds let alone exceed them

I would love another big to throw in the mix
 
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Burnsbros23 said:
If anything im basing this on reputation coming in. Nolan has never had the green light to shoot a 15 footer. He is a 78% free throw shooter, so some touch is there. Obviously Nolan has no handle. We do not have a four on the roster capable of replicated what Daniels did last year.

Facey was an awful free throw shooter coming in, showed some signs of improvement there. Anyone who saw Facey in high school knows his skills are very limited. Scout.com went as far as to list him as a center. So ppl expecting Facey to have a handle and hit jumpers are greatly missing the boat on this kid. Hes a pogo stick athlete who is raw on offense.
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I played pickup with Facey at Hunting Lodge Apartments a couple weeks ago. He was draining 3's and had nice rotation on his shot.

(This post sounds like a joke but it's not)
 
With boatrights perimeter D, nobody will have a chance to even take it down low. We're set
 
Silk City said:
I played pickup with Facey at Hunting Lodge Apartments a couple weeks ago. He was draining 3's and had nice rotation on his shot.

(This post sounds like a joke but it's not)
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Does he have a handle?
 
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David 76 said:
Lots of optimism here. I'm looking forward to how this team comes together too, but I have strong concerns.

We will be weaker at the 1 and the 4.

You could make the argument that we lost our 3 best players from last year.

While we have a lot of flexibility at guard/wing, we have 2 very foull prone centers that haven't been good scorers or rebounders. Our most promising 5 is losing time due to surgery.

Our PFs are untested. You really can't play Nolan at the 4 much because you need him to cover Amidah's foul tendencies.

I doubt any of our taller guards will equal Shabazz's rebounds let alone exceed them

I would love another big to throw in the mix
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All fair points, but next year's team is constructed differently and doesn't have to fit the same mold as last year. If you look at a lineup of Boat-Purvis-Hamilton-Facey-Nolan (Brimah), there's potential there for a pretty good core five where the pieces fit together well, even with just a little bit of bench help. But we still have to see - Boat as alpha dog/lead guard to himself, Purvis as Ferrari, Hamilton as wing scorer/creator, Facey as rebounder, Nolan/Brimah as older not-in-as-much-foul-trouble bigs are all things we can anticipate panning out, but they still have to actually pan out. If all of them do, we're contending again. If only a couple of them do, we'll have some holes. No way to know til they start playing, but looking forward to another ride.
 
No one has really mentioned Samuel in this thread- kid played like a champ as a freshman. He is a strong guard and has a good head on his shoulders- I would not be surprised to see him get 20 minutes a game next year if he continues to improve as much as he did last season over the summer.

Kid is a beast.
 
I expect Facey and Brimah to exceed to expectations a lot of the posters in this thread have. This team is going to be reloaded for a great season and another title run. Should be a top 10 team.
 
Like others I'm really worried about our depth. Maybe there is really good walk-on player that KO has in mind. I sure hope so and he is 6-7 and 260 like RL. LOL. Well I can hope. When is the last time UCONN only had 10 scholarship players or less heading into a season? I can't remember. I'm guessing maybe Dom Perno days or Calhoun's earlier seasons. Wish they could pick someone up before the season starts even just to give a few more fouls for our big men.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Well you sure sound like someone who knows what he's talking about. Why don't you tell us, so we can tell the trainers at UConn, the program you would design to get a kid to put on 25 lbs of muscle. Because that's like 40-50 total pounds.
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You can't possibly have thought I was being serious. I was initially responding (sarcastically) to the post before me that said that Hamilton could play the 4 (one of many that has suggested that), which is absurd. I've said several times on here that Hamilton is not, and never will be, a 4. I'm not sure how 25 lbs of muscle is actually 40-50 pounds, though.
 
CallMeBruce said:
You can't possibly have thought I was being serious. I was initially responding (sarcastically) to the post before me that said that Hamilton could play the 4 (one of many that has suggested that), which is absurd. I've said several times on here that Hamilton is not, and never will be, a 4. I'm not sure how 25 lbs of muscle is actually 40-50 pounds, though.
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I wouldn't put it past KO using Dan Hurley at 4 during the season especially considering that lack of talent we have here. This is college Basketball and not Pro basketball were most 4's are 6-9. Unfortunately we look a little weak up front and might have to have Dan Hurley play some 4 out necessity. I don't think it will be KO's plan at the start. I'm sure he we start Kelis Fisher there and see how it goes but if it doesn't seem to be working don't be surprised if we go small.
 
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We've got champagne problems. NC experience and coaching, 10 scholies with only 2 true frosh. No team is ever perfect, except the original Dream Team. If we cant find a 4 to add that is capable of significant impact, and it seems we cant, throw the extra scholarship at a walk-on for a year. We owe those guys huge and should show some love.
 
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elduderino said:
We've got champagne problems. NC experience and coaching, 10 scholies with only 2 true frosh. No team is ever perfect, except the original Dream Team. If we cant find a 4 to add that is capable of significant impact, and it seems we cant, throw the extra scholarship at a walk-on for a year. We owe those guys huge and should so some love.
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Well Bird's back wasn't the best, but pretty close.
 
Dan Hurley at the 4 could work against the right team and in the right situations. It would require some wrinkles - a lot of ball pressure and rotating on D, with guys like Samuel and Purvis hopefully being physical enough to box out bigger guys and get some rebounds (or Omar). We could do some innovative things on offense - Samuel is so strong and physical that you could essentially play him as the 4 on offense, setting screens and then rolling off the screen as a second point guard. If you play Dan Hurley as the "4" on defense, you just couldn't leave him isolated on the low block against guys who can score down there.

Not saying it should be our regular lineup, since all the wrinkles in the world can't cover up getting killed on the glass or killed by post feeds. But it could be a lineup that could change the game a little, if we're getting burned by Facey/Lubin against a stretch four, or want to speed up the tempo.
 
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Inyatkin said:
I don't know why we get so caught up in these semantics of positions. Villanova used to start four guards. That doesn't mean Randy Foye was a 4, whatever that even means.
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I'm not disagreeing with your point, but Randy Foye had 30 pounds on Hamilton.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Also, Chrissy Laettner over Shaq? C'mon, son.
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Holy , we're 2mos. into the offseason and debating The Dream Team?! Christina Laettner was the one weak spot, but Shaq was a big doughy, Baby Huey in '92 (still laugh/feel bad for his gf from that OT pic thread...) That aside, it was The Dream Team, and if it wasn't for FIBA, there would even have been a "The Dream" on the team!
 
king conn said:
Does he have a handle?
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Definitely not a bad dribbler. But that's a lot tougher to read in pickup than a shot. I was very impressed with his shot mechanics and comfort level shooting 3s, of course shooting well in a casual environment doesn't always translate to games but he is definitely capable of being a stretch 4. I was shocked people are ruling that out without seeing his development throughout the year
 
CallMeBruce said:
Fair enough. I guess I need to build up my rep.
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Just please don't start using emoticons as tells for dry jokes and sarcasm. Its like making the "u" in pussee into a great big smiley face.
 
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