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Newsome should start this upcoming game. With the way Max ran the ball in the first half last game, you have to wonder what Arkeel could have done had he been in there. Newsome is just too big of a playmaker and offensive game changer to not get as many possessions as possible and as early as possible. As long as he can pass protect, slot him as a starter and put pressure on the opposing D.
 
Clockshop said:
Newsome should start this upcoming game. With the way Max ran the ball in the first half last game, you have to wonder what Arkeel could have done had he been in there. Newsome is just too big of a playmaker and offensive game changer to not get as many possessions as possible and as early as possible. As long as he can pass protect, slot him as a starter and put pressure on the opposing D.
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I'm under the impression his pass blocking is not up to par yet - it's a liability.
Otherwise I would agree to play him as much as possible.
 
His pass blocking is poor at best. I wonder how much he did in high school. Omitting the pass blacking I agree. I think that none of the RB's are good at pass blocking.
 
Pulleeeeze!! Give him the ball! Let him create and score! His pass blocking will come. He did very little pass blocking in high school, but he ran for over 10K yards. Let's get our priorities in place. Right know the offense is a sucking chest wound, gotta do something!
 
ValleyFalls said:
Pulleeeeze!! Give him the ball! Let him create and score! His pass blocking will come. He did very little pass blocking in high school, but he ran for over 10K yards. Let's get our priorities in place. Right know the offense is a sucking chest wound, gotta do something!
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If pass blocking wasn't a priority he probably would be on the field for just about very snap - but it matters.
 
Bonehead said:
If pass blocking wasn't a priority he probably would be on the field for just about very snap - but it matters.
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Agree. There have been plays when he went to block left and blocked air. The pressure came from the right and wasn't bloacked. His or one of the other backs responsibility to pick that up. It will come with time.
 
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We need a QB with the ability to run for his life and see the field to make plays (pass the ball or run if necessary as well as hand off to the RBs)... we make a few quick big plays on these 8 in the box defenses that have ZERO respect for our offense and it could open things up for us....
 
pass blocking will come in time, get him running now. Sure it matters, get him running now
 
I'm a big advocate but he's not going to turn this season around by himself and we shouldn't be in a hurry to overload him.
 
I think this season is past turning around. Time will tell of course. Thinking about the set up for next season. Not advocating overloading, just loading a bit. And at the same time put in new OL. Get the current starters thinking about playing better or being replaced. Do something now, going nowhere the way it is.
 
Unfortunately pass blocking from the rb position is a vital part of running a balanced offense, especially when you have a less than stellar offensive line. I would love to say screw it line him up and pound it down their throats like all the other physical teams do but we just aren't there yet, the line just isn't physically or mentally capable of dominating his man in order to create the running lanes needed for a ground and pound type of offense. As we sit right now the best thing for the offense is to let delo carry the load, he knows his pass pro as well as his schemes. This will help with the confidence in the line knowing they can depend on him to pick up his assignment and not have to worry if the back is going to be there or not. Trust me I would love to take out the Ferrari (Newsome) and the mustang (Ron Jon) and let em rip but that would be like driving them around the parking lot. Next year that one two punch will be as explosive as any in the country but for now I know it seems crazy but we have to take care of the building blocks of our offense. A sound well balanced attack. Hang in there guys cuz once we do start clicking its gonna be a thing of beauty.
 
Start Newsome at RB in 1st & 2nd down, & move him to wing back-slot receiver for 3rd downs. Getting him the ball in open field is a sight to see as shown by the pass that he caught against BYU & his touchdown last game. Your best weapon should be on the field as much as possible.
 
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Watching Ole Miss beat Bama yesterday their offense had a slot WR in motion moving past the QB as the ball is snapped on just about every play, that should be Newsome.

Our offense resembles Bama's pro style attack which every analyst says only works when you have top tier talent. Which begs the question, what the heck is Diaco doing with this offense?
 
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In all fairness, i think Max has been pretty good so far. I agree that AN has the highest ceiling, but he really does need to learn pass blocking, but once he's even adequate, he should see far more time.

I also love the idea of lining him up in the slot, but one thing at a time...get pass blocking down, then move on to slot receiving routes...imo.

I certainly love when he touches the ball though. It could be a big play at any given time. It's been a while since we've had that.
 
Don't really agree with above, but not really coaching the team either. Same stale thinking however :)
 
ibleedhuskyblue said:
In all fairness, i think Max has been pretty good so far. I agree that AN has the highest ceiling, but he really does need to learn pass blocking, but once he's even adequate, he should see far more time.

I also love the idea of lining him up in the slot, but one thing at a time...get pass blocking down, then move on to slot receiving routes...imo.

I certainly love when he touches the ball though. It could be a big play at any given time. It's been a while since we've had that.
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I agree Max has done well and he did in that game I mentioned. My point was now that Newsome got his feet wet, let the best back start. Those 8-10 yard gains could've been a 40 yard TD w/ Newsome.
 
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When WVU had Tavon Austin and K State had D. Sproles how much pass blocking did they do? Get him the ball in space. Why run into the pile from the I- formation?
 
Newsome should be getting about 15 touches a game at this point in his development. I don't think the staff is far off.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Newsome should be getting about 15 touches a game at this point in his development. I don't think the staff is far off.
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You're missing the point entirely. It's not about touches, it's when. Let the big backs finish the game, start w/ Newsome early who provides the most threat to the opposing D.
 
Clockshop said:
You're missing the point entirely. It's not about touches, it's when. Let the big backs finish the game, start w/ Newsome early who provides the most threat to the opposing D.
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That was your entire point? If that is your entire point, then I will stay out of this thread because it is utterly asinine.
 
jdb50 said:
When WVU had Tavon Austin and K State had D. Sproles how much pass blocking did they do? Get him the ball in space. Why run into the pile from the I- formation?
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Exactly
 
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This offense lacks imagination. When you have a poor line, you need to adjust to keep defenses on their heels. Misdirection, fly sweeps, screens. . . etc. Newsome can be an integral part of that type of offense, even with his abysmal blocking. I would take the fb out of the offense and develop h backs. Problem is, our tight ends are worse than Newsome at blocking, save for flashes by Myers.
 
Clockshop said:
You're missing the point entirely. It's not about touches, it's when. Let the big backs finish the game, start w/ Newsome early who provides the most threat to the opposing D.
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It is about touches though, because if they started him and gave him a lot of touches early, and then didn't give him the ball much in the 2nd half, people would complain about that. His pass blocking is bad, and he's a smaller true freshmen, I don't think he's ready to be an every down guy.

They've been gradually increasing his touches, he touched the ball 10 times on offense, and 6 kick returns against Temple. I imagine they'll continue to do so, and I think that gradually increasing his workload and see how he responds is the way to go.
 
If he starts, you give the team the best chance at scoring when he runs vs. having another back run. That drive last game where Max was gaining 10-15 yards a carry would've been a cake walk for Newsome into the end zone. Once the pressure is on the D, give the touches to the bigger backs and let them control the pace of the game. I don't care if it takes 5 touches or 14 for the best back to get into the end zone as soon as possible.
 
I am generally in favor of starting a bigger back and then braining quickness off the bench. Max can be used to soften the defense a little. Then, the change of pace tends to work better. So I have no problem starting Max.
 
Palatine said:
I am generally in favor of starting a bigger back and then braining quickness off the bench. Max can be used to soften the defense a little. Then, the change of pace tends to work better. So I have no problem starting Max.
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A bigger back isn't softening anything. It's wasting time and putting pressure on our own D.
 
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jdb50 said:
When WVU had Tavon Austin and K State had D. Sproles how much pass blocking did they do? Get him the ball in space. Why run into the pile from the I- formation?
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Totally different offensive schemes/playbooks.
 
His pass blocking will come. The offense needs to move from anemic to dynamic or continue to be "run" off the field by the opposing defense. Newsome's size is comparable to other backs that have played well at the D1 level in the past. Not advocating making him the feature back, just many more touches per game, from a variety of directions/plays. Speaking of blocking, and as I have stated in other posts, "it's the offensive line stupid!". Fix that anemic (on an anemic kick today) OL and the pieces will come into place nicely.
 
Lets do something different and give the kid reps. The status quo is not cutting it.
 
I like to see him get more touches on screens, swing passes and outside runs.
 
uconnbill said:
I like to see him get more touches on screens, swing passes and outside runs.
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Agree. Get him out into the open field. Doesn't quite have the speed of Percy Harvin, but look at what the Seahawks do with him. I would like to see alot of the same with Newsome. Create some pre snap motion get the defense thinking and moving.
 
Clockshop said:
A bigger back isn't softening anything. It's wasting time and putting pressure on our own D.
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Actually it worked for the Giants for years with Brandon Jacobs and Tiki Barber. It is a common football practice. Watch a few games. It called changing pace.
 
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I agree that we need to give one back more than 10 carries. I almost don't care who get's 'em. This give everyone a few touches is beyond strange, especially when you are mostly a running team. Most runners get better as they get more touches, and get momentum or into a rhythm. That seems impossible with our rotation. I had expected the rotation to tighten up after the "pre-season" but it hasn't.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
You really nailed it with this thread Coach. Nice work.
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Not sure what you're trying to point out. He was one of the reasons we were in the this game. He had a questionable call on the first fumble, and another that sucked but if you played football you'd know it happens.

He started as I thought he should've. He's going to be a beast, not sure who else you can say that about on this team.

Palatine mentioned big backs slowing down the game and bruising the defense. Problem is, Max isn't Jacobs and comparing the two is hilarious. If anything, Diaco is trying to incorporate that philosophy early w/ the freshman Johnson.
 
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