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Good addition to Brenda’s team. Assuming Collins is eligible next season, MD will easily be the class of the BIG10, and maybe make some noise in the tournament.
 
oldude said:
Good addition to Brenda’s team. Assuming Collins is eligible next season, MD will easily be the class of the BIG10, and maybe make some noise in the tournament.
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Let's have some controversy when Collins is eligible next season and Westbrook has to sit.
 
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pvdoggy said:
Let's have some controversy when Collins is eligible next season and Westbrook has to sit.
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Would be far more plausible if Collins was eligible and Westbrook wasn’t than vice versa because Collins is returning home.
 
pvdoggy said:
Let's have some controversy when Collins is eligible next season and Westbrook has to sit.
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I know there are naysayers who believe that UConn will somehow get screwed, but the fact is the NCAA will have to grant both waiver requests or neither. They can’t split the baby here or it will result in a PR nightmare and a potential lawsuit.
 
DaBball said:
Would be far more plausible if Collins was eligible and Westbrook wasn’t than vice versa because Collins is returning home.
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Returning home only is a factor for medical reasons, if a family member is ill. The NCAA will grant both waiver requests or they will grant neither.
 
Not a surprise. As to the marketing of the Maryland Flag, I as a Maryland Tax payer am hoping the state has registered the flag as a trademark and is getting some revenue from it...
 
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I am excited to see what Maryland will look like next year with what they return, that monster recruiting class coming in and then a possible eligible Collins (if she gets the waiver).

They will have the pieces to do major damage.
 
oldude said:
I know there are naysayers who believe that UConn will somehow get screwed, but the fact is the NCAA will have to grant both waiver requests or neither. They can’t split the baby here or it will result in a PR nightmare and a potential lawsuit.
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I agree, and I think that should be a set in stone rule. Just among notable transfers with coaching changes, I think Dixon, Balogun, Westbrook, Ortiz, and Collins should either all be eligible, or none should be eligible. Of course there was the abuse allegations at Tech so perhaps those two have the better argument, but I still think it should be all four or none.

Even at Ole Miss last season, I don’t recall any waivers being approved. At this point, I would not be surprised either way with Westbrook.
 
Ozimoto said:
Not a surprise. As to the marketing of the Maryland Flag, I as a Maryland Tax payer am hoping the state has registered the flag as a trademark and is getting some revenue from it...
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I know your tongue is firmly in place considering (and/or because of) how much money has been famously put into said athletic department. :rolleyes:

As you probably now, that flag has popped up on various Terp uniforms from the gridiron to being on the helmet of the guy's lax team.
 
pvdoggy said:
Let's have some controversy when Collins is eligible next season and Westbrook has to sit.
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oldude said:
I know there are naysayers who believe that UConn will somehow get screwed, but the fact is the NCAA will have to grant both waiver requests or neither. They can’t split the baby here or it will result in a PR nightmare and a potential lawsuit.
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Ah, yet another chance for the opaque palace in Indianapolis to either set it straight or...nah...keep 'em guessing.

Besides abrupt coaching changes, something that pops up in reference to successful petitions is the support of the institution's athletic department that the player is leaving. That seemed to be the case with Nebraska's Ath. Department with Natalie Romeo (to Washington) and Jessica Shepard (to ND), as well as Chartrice White from Illinois to Florida State. (As for Promise Taylor leaving Mississippi and going to MSU, did Ole Miss and/or the NCAA decide the inter-conference transfer violated some kind of line, amorphous as it may be?)

So, Tennessee certainly went through a coaching "event." Will the UT athletic department recommend whatever petitions come over their desk from Collins and Westbrook? Will the post-game comments be held against Evina? Or will that be put in perspective by reasonable adults and/or UT lawyers? Like Old Dude said, I think the smart thing to do for Phillip Fulmer's minions is to support any petition. Then, back to the opaque palace....:eek: Stay tuned.
 
Dillon77 said:
So, Tennessee certainly went through a coaching "event." Will the UT athletic department recommend whatever petitions come over their desk from Collins and Westbrook? Will the post-game comments be held against Evina? Or will that be put in perspective by reasonable adults and/or UT lawyers? Like Old Dude said, I think the smart thing to do for Phillip Fulmer's minions is to support any petition. Then, back to the opaque palace....:eek: Stay tuned.
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But when did the TN athletic administration ever get accused of doing the smart thing? I suspect their answer to whether they approve Evina's waiver request will be, "Sorry/Not Sorry."
 
oldude said:
I know there are naysayers who believe that UConn will somehow get screwed, but the fact is the NCAA will have to grant both waiver requests or neither. They can’t split the baby here or it will result in a PR nightmare and a potential lawsuit.
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The entire process (wink wink) is confidential=no PR. There are also differences in the two players Westbrook is WNBA eligible and could be done with the NCAA in 2020. Collins will only be entering her sophomore year in the NCAA.
 
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CocoHusky said:
The entire process (wink wink) is confidential=no PR. There are also differences in the two players Westbrook is WNBA eligible and could be done with the NCAA in 2020. Collins will only be entering her sophomore year in the NCAA.
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The PR I am referring to would be the uproar that would develop should the NCAA grant one waiver request and not the other for each of the two TN transfers. Reporters would call them out on it and, if the waiver not granted was Evina’s, they would be dealing with one angry Italian who would be an absolute bear to deal with. Finally, Eva Westbrook doesn’t strike me as a shrinking violet. I think she would go after the NCAA with everything she has in support of her daughter.
 
oldude said:
The PR I am referring to would be the uproar that would develop should the NCAA grant one waiver request and not the other for each of the two TN transfers. Reporters would call them out on it and, if the waiver not granted was Evina’s, they would be dealing with one angry Italian who would be an absolute bear to deal with. Finally, Eva Westbrook doesn’t strike me as a shrinking violet. I think she would go after the NCAA with everything she has in support of her daughter.
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1) The NCAA has ruled differently for two players transferring from the same school before. Chatrice White and Brooke Kissinger both transferred from Illinois in 2016. White was made immediately eligible at FSU and Kissinger had to sit out a year at Creighton.

2) As angry as our little Italian guy can be, he cannot get more angry than the little Philly PG coaching South Carolina. Dawn was pretty angry when Cooper waiver was denied and advised the family to "lawyer up". She also accused ND of "lying" in the waiver application. Geno is not going to waste any energy on this. He will put the best case forward. If the decision goes against him he will suit up the players available and go win games. Geno might mix in a snide remark or two but that will be about it.

3) The NCAA does not publicly explain these decisions. The lack of explanation will make for more BY musings of unfairness, UCONN bias, ND favoritism, etc. An "uproar" will be kind of pointless though.

4) Eva Westbrook will follow Geno's lead. Failure to do so would make that angry Italian bear you describe her reality.
 
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CocoHusky said:
1) The NCAA has ruled differently for two players transferring from the same school before. Chatrice White and Brooke Kissinger both transferred from Illinois in 2016. White was made immediately eligible at FSU and Kissinger had to sit out a year at Creighton.

2) As angry as our little Italian guy can be, he cannot get more angry than the little Philly PG coaching South Carolina. Dawn was pretty angry when Cooper waiver was denied and advised the family to "lawyer up". She also accused ND of "lying" in the waiver application. Geno is not going to waste any energy on this. He will put the best case forward. If the decision goes against him he will suit up the players available and go win games. Geno might mix in a snide remark or two but that will be about it.

3) The NCAA does not publicly explain these decisions. The lack of explanation will make for more BY musings of unfairness, UCONN bias, ND favoritism, etc. An "uproar" will be kind of pointless though.

4) Eva Westbrook will follow Geno's lead. Failure to do otherwise would make that angry Italian bear you describe her reality.
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Agree with points 2-4. As for your first point, do we know that both Creighton and FSU sought waivers for their respective transfers from Illinois?
 
oldude said:
Agree with points 2-4. As for your first point, do we know that both Creighton and FSU sought waivers for their respective transfers from Illinois?
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I am not certain that Creighton submitted a waiver request.
 
CocoHusky said:
1) The NCAA has ruled differently for two players transferring from the same school before. Chatrice White and Brooke Kissinger both transferred from Illinois in 2016. White was made immediately eligible at FSU and Kissinger had to sit out a year at Creighton.

3) The NCAA does not publicly explain these decisions. The lack of explanation will make for more BY musings of unfairness, UCONN bias, ND favoritism, etc. An "uproar" will be kind of pointless though.
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Re: "The NCAA has ruled differently for two players transferring from the same school before."
The lack of explanation will make for more BY musings of unfairness, UCONN bias, ND favoritism, etc

And the NCAA has ruled differently for two players transferring into the same school before. While it was a different sport, the ND athletic department -- at virtually the same time period as Jess Shepard -- also put a petition into the NCAA for immediate eligibility for Alohi Gilman, a safety who transferred from the Naval Academy, a school that Notre Dame might have the closest working relationship with over the years.
It was denied and although there was talk of appealing (see link), Gilman didn't play that year. However, he joined the Irish the next year and was a huge contributor to the defensive backfield. Once again, who knows why one and not the other, but I bring it up to show one particular school also wins some, loses some.

Notre Dame safety Alohi Gilman denied immediate eligibility

 
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I’m very interested to see if the NCAA will be fair in the decisions they make to grant immediately eligibility to each player that’s going to request a waiver.
 
DeeHusky said:
I’m very interested to see if the NCAA will be fair in the decisions they make to grant immediately eligibility to each player that’s going to request a waiver.
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What do you consider a "fair" decision?
 
UConnNick said:
No state seems to take wrapping everything in its state flag more seriously than Maryland does.
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Tell me about, I work weekly down here in Baltimore and it’s everywhere and gawd ugly.
 
oldude said:
Returning home only is a factor for medical reasons, if a family member is ill. The NCAA will grant both waiver requests or they will grant neither.
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With Mark Emmert in charge, there's never any guarantee of anything when UCONN is involved.
 
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