New AP rankings: LV's got whacked...

[speedoo]

LV's at #11 (down 3 spots) KY at #7 (down 1 spot). Hmmm. Both lost to unranked SEC teams...

http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

(does anyone seriously believe Ohio State is a better team than the orange?)

on edit: TN lost at home, KY on the road, so that may explain the LV's bigger hit. But TN lost to SC who is now ranked while KY lost to LSU, still unranked and not even a single vote.

 

[alexrgct]

Depends if Sam Prahalas is done changing the game yet.

 

[speedoo]

Depends if Sam Prahalas is done changing the game yet.

Of course! How narrow minded of me to forget how much of a game changer Sammy is.

 

[huskybill]

Why can't she be a game changer? I can tell from your picture that you're a baby changer.

 

[magical2]

LV's at #11 (down 3 spots) KY at #7 (down 1 spot). Hmmm. Both lost to unranked SEC teams...

http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/rankings

(does anyone seriously believe Ohio State is a better team than the orange?)

on edit: TN lost at home, KY on the road, so that may explain the LV's bigger hit. But TN lost to SC who is now ranked while KY lost to LSU, still unranked and not even a single vote.

Speedo there is a point in the rankings or Brackeology where performance should come into play! Otherwise why have rankings,and Bracketology for the NC? Tenn has lost 6 games. Should the "BEST" teams just stay at the top no matter what they do. In your league/conference other sports you most often end up based on your record,and then in High School,College with 100s of teams they try to combine performance and how could they think you are. But if the Best team on paper keeps losing do they still stay at the top or go to the playoffs w/o any regard to performance?
There is a point where any team in any sport with rankings has to be held responsible for rheir performance!

 

[vtcwbuff]

Depends if Sam Prahalas is done changing the game yet.

Shhhhhhh!

 

[speedoo]

Shhhhhhh!

Heh. Yeah that too!!

 

[Sonny44]

Miami 2pts behind Duke!

 

[speedoo]

Speedo there is a point in the rankings or Brackeology where performance should come into play! Otherwise why have rankings,and Bracketology for the NC? Tenn has lost 6 games. Should the "BEST" teams just stay at the top no matter what they do. In your league/conference other sports you most often end up based on your record,and then in High School,College with 100s of teams they try to combine performance and how could they think you are. But if the Best team on paper keeps losing do they still stay at the top or go to the playoffs w/o any regard to performance?
There is a point where any team in any sport with rankings has to be held responsible for rheir performance!

If you are saying TN's performance justifies being ranked #11, I won't disagree. But you should recognize that 3 of their 6 losses were to three of the top teams: ND, Baylor and Stanford. They also beat some pretty decent teams like Miami and Rutgers. Compared to that record, Ohio State should not be ranked ahead of them.

 

[msf22b]

I don't think that the Tennessee fans feel that they were "whacked." (w/o looking). It was my impression that they were expecting worse.

 

[MarieM]

AP voters are being to00 nice to Tennessee.. no way they should be top 15, I'm guessing that win last night vs Auburn was as "great win"

 

[speedoo]

I don't think that the Tennessee fans feel that they were "whacked." (w/o looking). It was my impression that they were expecting worse.

Just to clarify, when I said they got "whacked" it was relative to what happened to Kentucky.

 

[speedoo]

AP voters are being to00 nice to Tennessee.. no way they should be top 15, I'm guessing that win last night vs Auburn was as "great win"

What 15 teams would you rank ahead of them?

 

[BigO]

whoa whoa whoa....let's not forget TN has the number one strength of schedule in all the land....and by far too...it's not even close to the other teams...and also the SEC is a very tough conference this year. south carolina is seriously under ranked and have been all year. TN still should have won though. SC could be dangerous in tourney

 

[magical2]

What 15 teams would you rank ahead of them?

That is a legitimate part of the problem. If you use RPI,SOS,and who they have on the team,this
should have been a team that was top 5 being talked about in legitimate NC contenders. In the womens game there is still a huge gap between a small # of teams, another small group,and a huge gap in talent and performance.If you just use the criteria mentioned there aren't! If you broaden what and how you rank a team the picture changes! If this was NFL football,I don't care
how good they could be,they would not be making the playoffs!
But it us not NFL,MLB.mens basketball etal I realize that. 6 losses, while being in a so so SEC. losses at home and in the SEC busting long standing running records indicates a very different standard of play from Tenn.

 

[BigO]

That is a legitimate part of the problem. If you use RPI,SOS,and who they have on the team,this
should have been a team that was top 5 being talked about in legitimate NC contenders. In the womens game there is still a huge gap between a small # of teams, another small group,and a huge gap in talent and performance.If you just use the criteria mentioned there aren't! If you broaden what and how you rank a team the picture changes! If this was NFL football,I don't care
how good they could be,they would not be making the playoffs!
But it us not NFL,MLB.mens basketball etal I realize that. 6 losses, while being in a so so SEC. losses at home and in the SEC busting long standing running records indicates a very different standard of play from Tenn.

the sec is not "so so" although the lady vols are def underperforming. KY is a great great team. SC is a great team LSU and GA have a lot of potential in tourney. looking at the rankings there is no way OSU, Green bay, or Miami (who TN beat badly) are better than the lady vols. the problem with TN is consistency. they don't play hard for 40 mins. they almost beat baylor this year...it's all mental at this point.

 

[EricLA]

the sec is not "so so" although the lady vols are def underperforming. KY is a great great team. SC is a great team LSU and GA have a lot of potential in tourney. looking at the rankings there is no way OSU, Green bay, or Miami (who TN beat badly) are better than the lady vols. the problem with TN is consistency. they don't play hard for 40 mins. they almost beat baylor this year...it's all mental at this point.

hanging your hat on "almost" beating Baylor is not only untrue, it also happened months ago. Tenn was up 38-31 on Baylor with something like 17 minutes left in the game. they then proceeded to get outscored 45-29 over the remainder. they followed that up with a close (6 point) win over a so-so RU team, and a blowout at Stanford.

and it hasn't gotten any better. Alabama and Auburn are simply awful, and Tenn's wins over them were nowhere near the blowouts they should have been. and that's not even counting the loss to unranked SC or the complete blowout against ND.

now i wouldn't say the entire SEC is awful - they have a decent number of mid level teams this year (ranked in the 20-40 range). but they aren't as good as the Big East or the Big 12. and i don't disagree that on paper, tennessee should beat the crap out of teams like Del, Wisc, OSU, etc. but then again, on paper they should have beaten the crap out of SC and UVA.

i don't doubt that some of it is mental. but this is Vicki's 5th year and Shekinna, Glory, Alicia, and Brianna's 4th years. at some point you have to look beyond just the "mental" if they've had 4-5 years to "get it" but haven't. i really think you have to look at the coaching and recruiting for the problem.

you can't recruit all wings and forwards and no PG's and expect things to be smooth. Bass was never the answer, and the staff had to be aware that Avant had dropped skill wise from when she was the #1 kid in 8th grade. they should have recruited over her.

but from 2007 to 2010, aside from Cain, they recruited all 3's and 4's with a couple of 2's sprinkled in. but they had to have kids play out of position - wing Stricklen and SG Simmons both played the 1 over the past 4 years. and as great as Parker was, you don't win any NC's without Bobbitt who was a last minute JUCO pickup.

 

[BigO]

hanging your hat on "almost" beating Baylor is not only untrue, it also happened months ago. Tenn was up 38-31 on Baylor with something like 17 minutes left in the game. they then proceeded to get outscored 45-29 over the remainder. they followed that up with a close (6 point) win over a so-so RU team, and a blowout at Stanford.

and it hasn't gotten any better. Alabama and Auburn are simply awful, and Tenn's wins over them were nowhere near the blowouts they should have been. and that's not even counting the loss to unranked SC or the complete blowout against ND.

now i wouldn't say the entire SEC is awful - they have a decent number of mid level teams this year (ranked in the 20-40 range). but they aren't as good as the Big East or the Big 12. and i don't disagree that on paper, tennessee should beat the crap out of teams like Del, Wisc, OSU, etc. but then again, on paper they should have beaten the crap out of SC and UVA.

i am not even going to try to debunk all that. the sec will have the most teams in the tourney this year.....and you might want to watch the baylor/tenn game. we were leading with 5 mins left. we lost the last segment and then lost game. we actually played them closer than UCONN----but we haven't gotten any better since then.....very emotional season for them. this is to be expected.

 

[Bayareahusky]

KY and USC are "great"? What are u smoking?

 

[BigO]

i hate to break it to you...there are good teams outside the big east. ha KY is a very good team and gave ND all they could handle AT notre dame. it's a little absurd to say KY isn't a great team.

SC is terribly underranked. dawn staley has those girls playing really well. anyway, don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.

don't get me confused. they are nowhere near where the lady vols should be. just one of the seasons.

 

[EricLA]

i am not even going to try to debunk all that. the sec will have the most teams in the tourney this year.....and you might want to watch the baylor/tenn game. we were leading with 5 mins left. we lost the last segment and then lost game. we actually played them closer than UCONN----but we haven't gotten any better since then.....very emotional season for them. this is to be expected.

really? you might want to go back and look at the game. first, at the 17 minute mark, tenn was up 39-31 (i was off by 1 point). so for the last 17 minutes of the game, Baylor outscored tennessee 46-29. second, the last time tennessee led was at the 8:30 mark and it was 53-52.

second, UCONN lost to Baylor by 5 and led by 5 with 6 minutes left. so again, wrong. not only did we lead later in the game and by more than tennessee (we were up 11 at one point) , we lost by less. so if you are going to come on here with a 'tude, at least get your facts right.

in fairness to tennessee, i readily acknowledge that it's been an emotional year for the players. i'm not sure how much Pat shared with them, but she's probably been aware of her situation for far longer than her public acknowledgement or when she actually told the team. no one knows how teenagers will react to something like that.

 

[ThisJustIn]

KY and USC are "great"? What are u smoking?

Well, compared to Alabama and Ole Miss, they are!

 

[BigO]

Well, compared to Alabama and Ole Miss, they are!

ok well anyway...enjoy your night all. never expected to change anyone's minds on here. ha peace

 

[pap49cba]

i am not even going to try to debunk all that. the sec will have the most teams in the tourney this year.....and you might want to watch the baylor/tenn game. we were leading with 5 mins left. we lost the last segment and then lost game. we actually played them closer than UCONN----but we haven't gotten any better since then.....very emotional season for them. this is to be expected.

So if you were SOOOOO competitive with Baylor (on your home court, I might add) why did you post this comment in another thread?

"i would frankly want TN as a 3 seed so long as it keeps the lady vols out of the baylor region."

Why don't you take your smack talk back to the checkerboard where it will be warmly received.

 

[ThisJustIn]

i hate to break it to you...there are good teams outside the big east. ha KY is a very good team and gave ND all they could handle AT notre dame. it's a little absurd to say KY isn't a great team.

You're right. The Wildcats gave ND all it could handle -- as in, their vaunted defense gave up 92 points -- and KY lost by 9.

Since then, ND has kicked butt and gotten better and better. They weren't surprised by a team on a 5 game losing streak nor have they squeaked out wins by 8, 5, and 5.

KY is a good team. Ain't close to great.