New AAC ESPN Contract Value Poll

[StunningSteve]

Sports Business News figures $8 million...

Even at the SBN number, it doubles the new big east contract..

in both dollars and eyeballs (exposure).

 

[StunningSteve]

I hate to break it y’all. There is no market.

This is a one bidder situation - I can’t even kill Aresco for it - there just isn’t another viable partner than ESPN.

Take it to market lol.

Why would you kill Aresco for ‘it’. ESPN was always the preferred partner.

This was a situation where the Presidents were pleased with the offer. Speculation beyond that is moot.

 

[whaler11]

Why would you kill Aresco for ‘it’. ESPN was always the preferred partner.

This was a situation where the Presidents were pleased with the offer. Speculation beyond that is moot.

yes mrs aresco weve seen the tweet like that matters at all

 

[StunningSteve]

yes mrs aresco weve seen the tweet like that matters at all

I just don’t see the relevance of what other offers would’ve been out there if they went beyond the exclusive negotiating window.
The point of the window is to broker the best deal for the parties involved. Both parties are compelled knowing what may or may not be on the other side of that.
They obviously got the offer they liked.

 

[whaler11]

I just don’t see the relevance of what other offers would’ve been out there if they went beyond the exclusive negotiating window.
The point of the window is to broker the best deal for the parties involved. Both parties are compelled knowing what may or may not be on the other side of that.

this completly contradicts itself

 

[StunningSteve]

this completly contradicts itself

Relevance to this discussion and relevance to the negotiations are different things.

 

[Hurleyman216]

and which of those companies is going to invest the tens of millions of dollars required to build out a live sports production arm so they can own the rights to tulane and memphis?

maybe someday they will be players but they clearly aren’t today. they have never done anything but acquire streaming rights to things produced by others

when people start throwing around $10 million a team... it’s just going to lead to a hilarious set of meltdowns next week

the idea that the p5 are going to expand with these teams - those days are over. nobody is going to add more mouths to feed until they figure out how the revenue to replace carriage fees gets generated.

Saying that these companies haven’t done this before so won’t do it in the future is just ignorant. 5 years ago these streaming services weren’t creating their own content, now they are. Some of the best content is now original content created by Amazon and Netflix. They aren’t investing millions, they’re investing billions. They very much have the resources to get into sports and at some point they will. Companies like Amazon have so much $$ they don’t even know what to do with it. They will eventually get into the game and when they do ESPN might be in trouble. Obviously we signed a deal with ESPN, but if you think Aresco didn’t leverage the future of sports media to get a higher price then you’re fooling yourself. ESPN is still king as of 2019 (just like MTV was king in 1995). The times are changing so buckle up. Might be a shocking next 10 years for people like yourself who can’t see past what might happen tomorrow.

 

[whaler11]

Saying that these companies haven’t done this before so won’t do it in the future is just ignorant. 5 years ago these streaming services weren’t creating their own content, now they are. Some of the best content is now original content created by Amazon and Netflix. They aren’t investing millions, they’re investing billions. They very much have the resources to get into sports and at some point they will. Companies like Amazon have so much $$ they don’t even know what to do with it. They will eventually get into the game and when they do ESPN might be in trouble. Obviously we signed a deal with ESPN, but if you think Aresco didn’t leverage the future of sports media to get a higher price then you’re fooling yourself. ESPN is still king as of 2019 (just like MTV was king in 1995). The times are changing so buckle up. Might be a shocking next 10 years for people like yourself who can’t see past what might happen tomorrow.

lol i didnt say it wasnt going to happen. i said they aint gonna kick it off with second rate college sports. maybe espn is afraid amazon is going to swoop in and steal the american... buy if they or others were legitimate players why would they not leave exclusive window?

i dont think much of aresco but he doesnt seem quite that bad

i love when the by flips to what i want to be true is true no matter the complete lack of evidence

 

[Hurleyman216]

lol i didnt say it wasnt going to happen. i said they aint gonna kick it off with second rate college sports. maybe espn is afraid amazon is going to swoop in and steal the american... buy if they or others were legitimate players why would they not leave exclusive window?

i dont think much of aresco but he doesnt seem quite that bad

i love when the by flips to what i want to be true is true no matter the complete lack of evidence

I think you missed my point. I agree that the AAC is a 2nd rate conference, but it’s exactly the type of flier a streaming media company may take before going all in on a conference like the ACC or SEC. Think of the American as a gateway drug. All Aresco has to do is dangle that carrot that we’re exploring options with Amazon, etc. ESPN should be smart enough to know that once the floodgates open they’re in serious trouble.

You clearly aren’t well-versed in contract negotiations. I sure hope Aresco is a bit more savvy than some of our BY posters.

 

[StunningSteve]

lol i didnt say it wasnt going to happen. i said they aint gonna kick it off with second rate college sports. maybe espn is afraid amazon is going to swoop in and steal the american... buy if they or others were legitimate players why would they not leave exclusive window?

i dont think much of aresco but he doesnt seem quite that bad

i love when the by flips to what i want to be true is true no matter the complete lack of evidence

LOL. The Presidents know that there is innate value in being on the WWL. They struck the deal they wanted and used the window like it was meant to be used.
Whether it’s 2nd rate or not, it is about to take a couple steps up my friend.

 

[whaler11]

I think you missed my point. I agree that the AAC is a 2nd rate conference, but it’s exactly the type of flier a streaming media company may take before going all in on a conference like the ACC or SEC. Think of the American as a gateway drug. All Aresco has to do is dangle that carrot that we’re exploring options with Amazon, etc. ESPN should be smart enough to know that once the floodgates open they’re in serious trouble.

You clearly aren’t well-versed in contract negotiations. I sure hope Aresco is a bit more savvy than some of our BY posters.

dont worry you can pretend whatever you like - but if you think they can bluff that amazon is an option and espn adds zeros to the checks is lol funny

you last line couldnt be further from the truth i led financial negotions for years on much larger annual deals than the aac contract - thankfully no one was dopey enough to make up competitors out of thin air

who do you think has more insight into what amazon or google or facebook is doing as far as getting into live sports? mike aresco or espn?

i bet espn isnt too scared of hulu since they are both owned by the same company lol. netflix constantly annouces they are interested in sports - maybe they will double cross their shareholders and jump in on the aac.

 

[whaler11]

LOL. The Presidents know that there is innate value in being on the WWL. They struck the deal they wanted and used the window like it was meant to be used.
Whether it’s 2nd rate or not, it is about to take a couple steps up my friend.

as usual i have no idea what you are talking about. they resigned with espn because there is nowhere else to go. we’ll see what the money is - but i fail to see the logic of huge increases unless espn bids against itself

 

[StunningSteve]

as usual i have no idea what you are talking about. they resigned with espn because there is nowhere else to go. we’ll see what the money is - but i fail to see the logic of huge increases unless espn bids against itself

As usual. LOL

 

[zls44]

who do you think has more insight into what amazon or google or facebook is doing as far as getting into live sports? mike aresco or espn?

I love when the same folks who say Aresco has more insight than any poster does also think ESPN has never heard of Amazon.

 

[Hurleyman216]

dont worry you can pretend whatever you like - but if you think they can bluff that amazon is an option and espn adds zeros to the checks is lol funny

you last line couldnt be further from the truth i led financial negotions for years on much larger annual deals than the aac contract - thankfully no one was dopey enough to make up competitors out of thin air

who do you think has more insight into what amazon or google or facebook is doing as far as getting into live sports? mike aresco or espn?

i bet espn isnt too scared of hulu since they are both owned by the same company lol. netflix constantly annouces they are interested in sports - maybe they will double cross their shareholders and jump in on the aac.

You do realize what Mike Aresco did for a living before being commissioner or the AAC, right? He was literally in charge of acquisitions and long-term content strategy at ESPN and then CBS. Based on how ESPN has been Mia-managed the past few years I actually trust that Aresco has a better handle on this than ESPN. Disney is a great company, but ABC and their other networks have been losing ground to original content on streaming services. If I know this, I guarantee you that Aresco does as well. These aren’t fictitious companies I’m pulling out of thin air. These streaming companies are going to kill cable. Disney has been WAY behind in bringing their content to a streaming service because they are so heavily tied to cable.

There are a lot of stories like this...Kodak invented the digital camera but couldn’t see that selling rolls of film wasn’t their future while every one of their competitors saw the future.

Congrats on your previous negotiating, unfortunately on this topic you’re a bit full of it and in over your head. Don’t be shocked when we see a contract of $10 M/ year per school.

 

[Hurleyman216]

I love when the same folks who say Aresco has more insight than any poster does also think ESPN has never heard of Amazon.

You think CVS or Walgreens had ever heard of Amazon when this happened last year?

Walgreens, CVS and Rite-Aid lose $11 billion in value after Amazon buys online pharmacy PillPack

 

[whaler11]

I love when the same folks who say Aresco has more insight than any poster does also think ESPN has never heard of Amazon.

it shouldnt take too much thinking to realize ESPN knows more about it’s competitors than the AAC does.

You do realize what Mike Aresco did for a living before being commissioner or the AAC, right? He was literally in charge of acquisitions and long-term content strategy at ESPN and then CBS. Based on how ESPN has been Mia-managed the past few years I actually trust that Aresco has a better handle on this than ESPN. Disney is a great company, but ABC and their other networks have been losing ground to original content on streaming services. If I know this, I guarantee you that Aresco does as well. These aren’t fictitious companies I’m pulling out of thin air. These streaming companies are going to kill cable. Disney has been WAY behind in bringing their content to a streaming service because they are so heavily tied to cable.

There are a lot of stories like this...Kodak invented the digital camera but couldn’t see that selling rolls of film wasn’t their future while every one of their competitors saw the future.

Congrats on your previous negotiating, unfortunately on this topic you’re a bit full of it and in over your head. Don’t be shocked when we see a contract of $10 M/ year per school.

this one is gonna age well.

surprised you dont think more of disney here because your opinion on the topic can be boiled down to “when you wish upon a star”.

whatever premium they get over the last deal is going to be for being on +.

although mike aresco emailing espn articles about pillpack would be pretty funny

 

[CL82]

Sports Business News figures $8 million...

Link?

 

[CL82]

ESPN will be careful about putting content on ESPN+. Why? They have to maintain the premium pricing of the current ESPN channels. What they want to do is put a couple of games per team on ESPN+ (as well as other non-game content) to entice fans to subscribe to both the ESPN channels and ESPN+ to increase revenues during a period of declining subscribers.

I would imagine that current games being only shown on ESPN3 will all go to ESPN+. Thus, if you are an avid fan, you will subscribe to ESPN+. For UConn, maybe a couple of football games and a handful of men's basketball games.

I think so. Maybe, as others have noted the CBSSN games as well.

 

[nickp91]

I'm really curious to see where the AAC deal lands If it truly is $7M-$10M that is awesome

 

[Hurleyman216]

it shouldnt take too much thinking to realize ESPN knows more about it’s competitors than the AAC does.


this one is gonna age well.

surprised you dont think more of disney here because your opinion on the topic can be boiled down to “when you wish upon a star”.

whatever premium they get over the last deal is going to be for being on +.

although mike aresco emailing espn articles about pillpack would be pretty funny

You’ll see soon enough...

 

[Sky ball]

Leagues trending up, I think ESPN realizes that too. I hate the everyone gets the same amount stuff. I’m sure the bottom half loves it but the top half of the league shouldn’t. They bring in all the money. ECU, Tulane and other bottom dwellers should not be getting the same amount of money as Cincinnati, UCF, Houston. Aresco gotta stop this and realize that the “national champions” UCF is getting the same amount to develop facilities and other things for football as ECU. And for basketball why is 0-13 Tulane which I don’t belive has aired on a network other that CBSSN all season get the same amount at UConn, Houston, Cincinnati, UCF who’ve been on ESPN and ESPN2 multiple times this year.

We got a Big 10 invite but turned it down as they would only give us 1.5 mil a year due to all the money coming from OSU and Michigan football.

 

[CL82]

We got a Big 10 invite but turned it down as they would only give us 1.5 mil a year due to all the money coming from OSU and Michigan football.

I actually think we'd take that deal as least on a transition basis.

 

[StunningSteve]

Link?

 

[Scrutineer]

Leagues trending up, I think ESPN realizes that too. I hate the everyone gets the same amount stuff. I’m sure the bottom half loves it but the top half of the league shouldn’t. They bring in all the money. ECU, Tulane and other bottom dwellers should not be getting the same amount of money as Cincinnati, UCF, Houston. Aresco gotta stop this and realize that the “national champions” UCF is getting the same amount to develop facilities and other things for football as ECU. And for basketball why is 0-13 Tulane which I don’t belive has aired on a network other that CBSSN all season get the same amount at UConn, Houston, Cincinnati, UCF who’ve been on ESPN and ESPN2 multiple times this year.

Because it's a LEAGUE. If the league builds and the bottom dwellers rise all win. Of course, that presupposes all members are working to make their programs better and not just feasting on the $2M contract.