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Nostical said:
Don't be the biggest A--Hole in coaching. I for one am thrilled they made this move.
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This is a profession that claims Jimbo Fisher and Bobby Petrino as members.....
 
Rumor has it, although he crushed breakfast he was losing control of lunch. There is no way you can remain a top flight college football program when this exists.
 
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Look who's mentioned as the #2 choice to replace Pelini.

2. Justin Fuente, Memphis head coach
Anyone who takes Memphis from 3-9 to 9-3 should draw a lot of interest from ADs, Eichorst included. Fuente is 16-20 in three years at Memphis when the program had won five total games the previous three years. This season, the Tigers had a decent chance to upset then-No. 11 UCLA in Week 2, and they were not blown out by then-No. 11 Ole Miss two weeks later. If Fuente can hang against good, ranked opponents at Memphis, that would seem to bode well for his Nebraska candidacy. Pelini’s background was defense, but the Huskers -- as illustrated above -- often hemorrhaged points against good teams. Fuente and DC Barry Odom would be welcome additions. This season, Memphis was 15th in yards per play (4.75) and seventh in scoring defense (17.1 PPG).

Fuente, a 38-year-old native of Tulsa, is going to rise. Nebraska would be wise to nab him while it can.

“He’d be great for them,” an SEC coach told me Sunday.
 
No one in the history of college football is getting more mileage out of catching a team in a look ahead spot than Fuente.

They had Alabama on deck.

It's amazing to me that so many people can work inside the game and miss the schedule context when they see results.
 
whaler11 said:
No one in the history of college football is getting more mileage out of catching a team in a look ahead spot than Fuente.

They had Alabama on deck.

It's amazing to me that so many people can work inside the game and miss the schedule context when they see results.
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I think the look ahead concept is ovrrated. A coach is only responsible for getting his team ready. Wether or not the opposing team is looking ahead to another opponent shouldn't factor into if a coach did a good job preparing his team.
 
noeynox said:
I think the look ahead concept is ovrrated. A coach is only responsible for getting his team ready. Wether or not the opposing team is looking ahead to another opponent shouldn't factor into if a coach did a good job preparing his team.
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The games aren't played in a vaccum. If the other team is flat because they are looking ahead, that has to be considered when talking about how great it is you only lost by 21. Guy is a good candidate - but I don't see how losing by only 21 to Mississippi is a selling point.
 
A few thoughts:

1. this was a bad marriage that had to end. I am with the camp that felt the time was right to move on, and probably to Frost.
2. Pelini could not beat good teams - he had a .333 win percentage against ranked teams.
3. UF will go with an O-minded coach.
4. would be surprised to see them go w/Fuente, but I dont think UCLA was so looking ahead to Texas that it took its eye off the ball (although i think UCLA was maybe the strangest team this year in terms of knowing which team would show up) and he did have OleMiss at 7-3 in 4th quarter.
 
ktuck911 said:
(the elephant in the room has gotta be thinking) bad timing for UCONN football??? I know I know, but with the frustrations we're going thru in our rebuilding process you gotta admit the thought had to cross everybody's mind here...simply because this guy's proven....
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Unlikely regardless of timing .... but yes, it crossed my mind.
 
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As a big Nebraska fan, Sean Eichorst made the correct decision here. The program and Pelini had been growing apart for about 3 years now and every single season seemed like it was a roller coaster of emotions. Pelini will be a head coach somewhere else and Eichorst has stated he's going to open the wallet (reportedly up to 5.5 million a season) for the right coach.

People keep saying Scott Frost but I don't see it happening. Hasn't been a head coach and who is his network of guys to bring in with him?

What I could see happening is Nebraska pulling a move similar to Arkansas did when it got Brett Beilema from Wisconsin. Wisconsin and Beilema had begun to grow tired of each other and Arkansas capitalized. That name this go round? Mark Richt at Georgia. He's 54, was born in Omaha, and Georgia seems to think they can do better. If Nebraska can pry him away from UGA and outspend Oregon for Frost as offensive coordinator and head coach in waiting they will be in a really good place.

In a fantasy world they bring in Muschamp as defensive coordinator as the icing on the cake but I have a feeling someone at a lower level P5 will give him a shot as a head coach or he'll end up in the SEC somewhere (Auburn).
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Wow what is the standard at Nebraska to keep your job?
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Win the conference at least once. Preferably at least once every three years. Pelini was the Marty Schottenheimer of college football. Never won the big game. Personality sealed his fate. As a Kansas alumn, I'd love them to grab him, a winning record and bowl game is all they expect in Lawrence.
 
whaler11 said:
The games aren't played in a vaccum. If the other team is flat because they are looking ahead, that has to be considered when talking about how great it is you only lost by 21. Guy is a good candidate - but I don't see how losing by only 21 to Mississippi is a selling point.
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He might be a candidate somewhere, but shouldn't be at Nebraska. He just had his first winning season, in a crappy league where even the best teams were huge disappointments.
 
Drew said:
As a big Nebraska fan, Sean Eichorst made the correct decision here. The program and Pelini had been growing apart for about 3 years now and every single season seemed like it was a roller coaster of emotions. Pelini will be a head coach somewhere else and Eichorst has stated he's going to open the wallet (reportedly up to 5.5 million a season) for the right coach.

People keep saying Scott Frost but I don't see it happening. Hasn't been a head coach and who is his network of guys to bring in with him?

What I could see happening is Nebraska pulling a move similar to Arkansas did when it got Brett Beilema from Wisconsin. Wisconsin and Beilema had begun to grow tired of each other and Arkansas capitalized. That name this go round? Mark Richt at Georgia. He's 54, was born in Omaha, and Georgia seems to think they can do better. If Nebraska can pry him away from UGA and outspend Oregon for Frost as offensive coordinator and head coach in waiting they will be in a really good place.

In a fantasy world they bring in Muschamp as defensive coordinator as the icing on the cake but I have a feeling someone at a lower level P5 will give him a shot as a head coach or he'll end up in the SEC somewhere (Auburn).
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From a non-Nebraska fan perspective.....your comments seem on track for Nebraska fans...but to the general public seem delusional. It just isn't a top tier job....and Richt has a top tier job now. Richt doesn't recruit that wellat Georgia...you think he wants to enter recruiting battles at Nebraska? Plus...Richt has the exact same rep as Pelinni...9 win seasons and not win the big game. Nebraska is a nice program and all...but to think you can get a coach from a SEC top tier program to leave.....AND get Frost to leave Oregon and sign the hottest DC available seems a bit far fetched. Muschamp will go to Auburn...Texas A&M. Frost's next gig is head coach not a lateral to Nebraska.
 
whaler11 said:
No one in the history of college football is getting more mileage out of catching a team in a look ahead spot than Fuente.

They had Alabama on deck.

It's amazing to me that so many people can work inside the game and miss the schedule context when they see results.
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Some resume, had an decent chance...and not blown out. The Bears may come calling with those cedentials.

I guess people really don't watch game. Memphis didn't look good at all to me, more like an excuse to not grant a G5 bid to the major bowls if this is what a conference champ looks like. Our Fiesta team for all the guff afterwards would have killed this team.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
From a non-Nebraska fan perspective.....your comments seem on track for Nebraska fans...but to the general public seem delusional. It just isn't a top tier job....and Richt has a top tier job now. Richt doesn't recruit that wellat Georgia...you think he wants to enter recruiting battles at Nebraska? Plus...Richt has the exact same rep as Pelinni...9 win seasons and not win the big game. Nebraska is a nice program and all...but to think you can get a coach from a SEC top tier program to leave.....AND get Frost to leave Oregon and sign the hottest DC available seems a bit far fetched. Muschamp will go to Auburn...Texas A&M. Frost's next gig is head coach not a lateral to Nebraska.
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I never said we would get all three, I said in a fantasy world they would bring in Muschamp but he's going to be an SEC coordinator. Georgia has recruited very well actually and has produced a plethora of NFL talent, not sure where you got the idea they don't recruit well from. Richt is doing what Pelini is doing in a much harder league and with more success (BCS bowls, top recruiting classes, never gets blown out) and yet UGA seems to have grown tired of him.


Also disagree that Nebraska isnt a top tier job. There just aren't that many schools who have the financial ability and willingness of Nebraska to go with the tradition that they provide. Bill Callahan brought loads of talent to Nebraska he just couldn't coach.

Frost played at Nebraska and would be crazy to not take a pay raise and be tabbed as "coach in waiting" at his alma mater. It's really not as crazy to think Nebraska could land these two guys given the circumstances and their financial commitment to winning.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
Wow what is the standard at Nebraska to keep your job?
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Win at least 1 conference title maybe? They never beat anyone good, and always have a WTF game each year. Add to that, the fact that Bo is an unmitigated jack@ss, and you get a fired coach. He has 0 Conference Titles (Big 12 or B1G) in 7 years
 
Nebraska has a Florida problem. Expectations too high and patience too short. It's not like they've gone without a bowl game in 4 seasons or rocking back to back 3 or fewer win seasons.

Guy has averaged 9+ per year. It's not what it used to be, but it's not bad.

I agree they were tired of him and the relationship wasn't good, but why give him all that money.
 
Drew said:
I never said we would get all three, I said in a fantasy world they would bring in Muschamp but he's going to be an SEC coordinator. Georgia has recruited very well actually and has produced a plethora of NFL talent, not sure where you got the idea they don't recruit well from. Richt is doing what Pelini is doing in a much harder league and with more success (BCS bowls, top recruiting classes, never gets blown out) and yet UGA seems to have grown tired of him.


Also disagree that Nebraska isnt a top tier job. There just aren't that many schools who have the financial ability and willingness of Nebraska to go with the tradition that they provide. Bill Callahan brought loads of talent to Nebraska he just couldn't coach.

Frost played at Nebraska and would be crazy to not take a pay raise and be tabbed as "coach in waiting" at his alma mater. It's really not as crazy to think Nebraska could land these two guys given the circumstances and their financial commitment to winning.
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I guess we will just have to disagree on this. Richt is not a great recruiter....I live in Atlanta...there are 4 and 5 star recruits everywhere. He doesn't have to fight to fill out a team. Kids ask him to go to UGA. What I haven't seen him do is pull in recruits from outside Georgia...and he has lost quite a few to other schools. He still loses games he shouldn't lose (Florida/SC/GT this year)..and rarely wins big games. He is a good guy and runs a decent program...but I wouldn't consider him a great coach.

Here is what I mean by top tier programs....Alabama, UGA, UF, Tx, MI, OSU, USC, UCLA, ND, FSU. I think these 10 schools are top tier..and I don't think Nebraska is there...and I would be surprised if a coach of one of these schools would leave to coach Nebraska. Nebraska is the next tier...still a great football school but not top tier.

Lastly...coach in waiting rarely works (Ollie is the exception)..and really only works with very tenured coaches near retirement. There aren't many coaches that would fit that profile...and especially not Richt. If Frost isn't seriously considered for the HC job, he needs to go coach a lower level school to get experience. Then Nebraska can hire him later. That would be much better experience for him then to continue to coach offense at a school he is already familiar with.

Just my two cents.
 
B1GEast said:
it would not surprise me it Richt was next
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Not sure about that. He has the number two ranked recruiting class and some of those players would head elsewhere if he was fired.
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
I guess we will just have to disagree on this. Richt is not a great recruiter....I live in Atlanta...there are 4 and 5 star recruits everywhere. He doesn't have to fight to fill out a team. Kids ask him to go to UGA. What I haven't seen him do is pull in recruits from outside Georgia...and he has lost quite a few to other schools. He still loses games he shouldn't lose (Florida/SC/GT this year)..and rarely wins big games. He is a good guy and runs a decent program...but I wouldn't consider him a great coach.

Here is what I mean by top tier programs....Alabama, UGA, UF, Tx, MI, OSU, USC, UCLA, ND, FSU. I think these 10 schools are top tier..and I don't think Nebraska is there...and I would be surprised if a coach of one of these schools would leave to coach Nebraska. Nebraska is the next tier...still a great football school but not top tier.

Lastly...coach in waiting rarely works (Ollie is the exception)..and really only works with very tenured coaches near retirement. There aren't many coaches that would fit that profile...and especially not Richt. If Frost isn't seriously considered for the HC job, he needs to go coach a lower level school to get experience. Then Nebraska can hire him later. That would be much better experience for him then to continue to coach offense at a school he is already familiar with.

Just my two cents.
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I agree that Nebraska isn't in the same caliber of jobs as TX, ALA, USC but I do think it is in the same tier as UCLA, Penn State, and UGA. It's a destination job and one of the 10-15 in the country depending on who you ask. I also think the school/administration is ready to ramp up their financial commitment it takes to win these days. The school has been hesitant to hire the necessary additional recruiters and staff of larger programs but thats what it takes to compete these days and Nebraska has the resources to provide any coach with what they need.

Agreed about the coach in waiting thing though. The more I think about it the more it just doesn't make sense, although I do think that if Nebraska were to pay him more and give sort of an "associate head coach" title he would consider it. My only issue with Frost is that he hasn't been a head coach before and Nebraska went that route last time with Pelini. I don't know who Frost would bring in with him but I would assume his young personality would resonate well with recruits and he is a Nebraska boy through and through so that helps.
 
Would also LOVE to have them look at Todd Graham, Arizona State head coach. That guy wins no matter where he is.
 
junglehusky said:
Wait, 9-3 is a fireable offense and they're supposedly going to go after Schiano who never won the Big East and did better than 9 wins (counting bowl wins) exactly once???
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Schiano was a PR disaster in Tampa Bay. I assumed Rutgers was going to bring him back after firing Flood in a year.
 
Drew said:
Would also LOVE to have them look at Todd Graham, Arizona State head coach. That guy wins no matter where he is.
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Todd "the ghost" Graham. Soon to disappear from a school near you.
 
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