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Here's a flash I just received from my source at UT.
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Just had breakfast with my AD contact in LA before our UCLA game.
Both Texas and ND moving to ACC for non-football with deals to play each other and 3-4 ACC games per year in football. Pitt and Syracuse to ACC. Heard nothing about UConn when I asked.
 
You have got to be kidding me. This is making me sick to my stomach.
 
i think im just going to stop watching sports. its been nice having a solid athletic program.
 
The ACC looks pretty weak here. ND and Texas for non-football?

Wha?
 
Texas joins ND as a football independent. The two schools with their own networks?
 
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If this goes through, the Big 10 will not expand.
SEC will take Missouri.

UConn
Rutgers
WV
Louisville
Cincy
USF
TCU

will join with:

Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas St.
Baylor
Iowa St.

...in the newly reformed Big12.

Basketball.... ugh.
 
This doesn't even make sense. Between the NFL and NBA lockouts and all this college conference stuff, sports is becoming a lot more frustrating
 
This part doesn't make sense for me. What's the draw in being ACC for sports other than football? Lot of travel and it's football that drives the money anyway. ND should just stay banded with its Catholic friends.
 
the Big 10 may still want more exposure in the lucrative and mostly untapped northeast market

RU & CT to the Big 10 helps them quite a bit in that regard
 
With TCU, WVU and Cincy wouldn't the BCS bid still be safe for some time based on the criteria?
 
upstater said:
If this goes through, the Big 10 will not expand.
SEC will take Missouri.

UConn
Rutgers
WV
Louisville
Cincy
USF
TCU

will join with:

Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas St.
Baylor
Iowa St.

...in the newly reformed Big12.

Basketball.... ugh.
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Kansas basketball makes up for Syracuse. Pitt is a net loss. Catholics a net loss. We can hopefully play them OOC rather than playing Texas and NC.
 
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Well, that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Looks like we will soon be hooking up with the Big 12 Leftovers. If anything good comes out of this is that I hope once and for all we split from the hoop only schools. I don't care about markets or anything else. Get into an all sports league with schools with similar goals and interests and build it to its full potential. The two conferences in one approach is proving to be a failure over the long haul.
 
the chances of that above scenario happening are virtually zero. wvu is not staying, ku will look west to the pac especially if texas isnt going. we need to get the hell out of here.
 
gars44 said:
Kansas basketball makes up for Syracuse. Pitt is a net loss. Catholics a net loss. We can hopefully play them OOC rather than playing Texas and NC.
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Joining with the Big 12 scraps is an awful thought to think about. The travel sucks and there's nothing appealing about any of those schools. Kansas basketball is great but they have no ties with UConn or really any of these schools.
 
upstater said:
If this goes through, the Big 10 will not expand.
SEC will take Missouri.

UConn
Rutgers
WV
Louisville
Cincy
USF
TCU

will join with:

Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas St.
Baylor
Iowa St.

...in the newly reformed Big12.

Basketball.... ugh.
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You know what? If that group keeps its BCS bid and can get decent money from Comcast or Fox, then roll with it.

I might not be a college sports fan anymore by then, but UConn would be okay at least...
 
Silk City said:
Joining with the Big 12 scraps is an awful thought to think about. The travel sucks and there's nothing appealing about any of those schools. Kansas basketball is great but they have no ties with UConn or really any of these schools.
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yes it is. Uconn will have to think long and hard about what it wants to be. The other New England land grants have made their positions known. Uconn decided to step up. We have been fortunate to latch on to a conference that a lot of established, but down on their luck programs, wanted badly to get out of. They basically wanted to get the heck out of a conference that had programs like Uconn in it. That's not how we think. That's how they think. So, let's be a little humble when referring to the Big 12 "scraps," please.
 
Hoophound said:
With TCU, WVU and Cincy wouldn't the BCS bid still be safe for some time based on the criteria?
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Losing Pitt and Cuse but gaining TCU, Kansas, Kansas St, should keep the BCS bid in play. It would be the worst BCS conference though.
 
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If true this will kill the athletic program. Truly sad. Worst part will be getting screwed over by conference mates Cuse, Pitt and ND. Looks like I'll be losing all interest in college sports.
 
Pretty sure the point of the 4 super conferences is to have a 4 team playoff. If we merge with the Big 12 we will not be one of those four teams - we will be at the level of the MWC.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
the chances of that above scenario happening are virtually zero. wvu is not staying, ku will look west to the pac especially if texas isnt going. we need to get the hell out of here.
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What in the world? WV is going where? You think the SEC takes them over Missouri and all those eyeballs? And even if they do, then Missouri has no home. Why is the Pac-14 going to take Kansas? Explain that. They'd have to take KSU too.

Think about it.
 
Well, if it makes you feel any better gars, we'd be part of the Big East scraps. Together We can call ourselves the Big Scraps Conference and use the BCS typo from our commercial as the conference logo.
 
There's nothing to like about that scenario other than probable keeping a seat at the BCS table.
 
Sean said:
Pretty sure the point of the 4 super conferences is to have a 4 team playoff. If we merge with the Big 12 we will not be one of those four teams - we will be at the level of the MWC.
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That's not going to fly politically.
 
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gars44 said:
yes it is. Uconn will have to think long and hard about what it wants to be. The other New England land grants have made their positions known. Uconn decided to step up. We have been fortunate to latch on to a conference that a lot of established, but down on their luck programs, wanted badly to get out of. They basically wanted to get the heck out of a conference that had programs like Uconn in it. That's not how we think. That's how they think. So, let's be a little humble when referring to the Big 12 "scraps," please.
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"Scraps" as in they were left behind by the other B12 teams... I'm not knocking the schools themselves. I have actually been to several of them and they're great schools, but with the travel and lack of tradition/rivalries/dominance (outside of Kansas BBall) I am not excited about the possibility of joining up with them
 
upstater said:
Losing Pitt and Cuse but gaining TCU, Kansas, Kansas St, should keep the BCS bid in play. It would be the worst BCS conference though.
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the big east already is the worst BCS conference.
 
upstater said:
If this goes through, the Big 10 will not expand.
SEC will take Missouri.

UConn
Rutgers
WV
Louisville
Cincy
USF
TCU

will join with:

Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas St.
Baylor
Iowa St.

...in the newly reformed Big12.

Basketball.... ugh.
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Possible, but SEC might go 16 with some combo of Texas Tech, West Virginia, TCU or USF in that scenario. PAC might go for 16 as well, with Texas Tech, TCU, the Kansas schools all being possible targets.
 
upstater said:
Losing Pitt and Cuse but gaining TCU, Kansas, Kansas St, should keep the BCS bid in play. It would be the worst BCS conference though.
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True. But all we need is a seat at the table. With that, over time, we assimilate into the fabric of the old guard. We have to be polite, not have any requirements, but we get to sit at the table. That's really all we can expect. Uconn has to learn to like it. I will.
 
The whole ND in the BE thing backfired BIGTIME!!!

Playing footsie with that school allowed them to vote with the Catholics and stop the football teams from reorganizing with strength.
Now the next shiv.
 
some posters on the big 12 boards are saying that the acc balked at hte idea of bringing in TT with UT and UT is looking west to the Pac. How true is it, I have no idea.
 
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teresias216 said:
Possible, but SEC might go 16 with some combo of Texas Tech, West Virginia, TCU or USF in that scenario. PAC might go for 16 as well, with Texas Tech, TCU, the Kansas schools all being possible targets.
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The man behind the curtain isn't going to help you.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
some posters on the big 12 boards are saying that the acc balked at hte idea of bringing in TT with UT and UT is looking west to the Pac. How true is it, I have no idea.
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Someone is being fed misinformation. That's 17 teams for basketball. I don't think so.
 
upstater said:
The whole ND in the BE thing backfired BIGTIME!!!

Playing footsie with that school allowed them to vote with the Catholics and stop the football teams from reorganizing with strength.
Now the next shiv.
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I've been thinking the same thing. All along they could have provided the needed stability by joining the one leauge that gave them a home for their other sports instead they are now leaving for a "better" conference that allows them to keep their football independence. Good thing Marinate had ND's pulse on things all along.
 
The big east deserves what is happening to them. Siding with the basketball only schools for all those years finally caught up to them.
 
upstater said:
Someone is being fed misinformation. That's 17 teams for basketball. I don't think so.
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post from the KU board: jester66 wrote: Saw a post that Chip on the radio clains ACC balked at Tech, so UT is leaning towards PAC.
 
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upstater said:
ACC is worse over the last 6-7 years. That much is proven.
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maybe but it's pretty close. my point is the BE is not great shakes in football compared to the big boys of the Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10 and SEC. so while i'd rather see us land in one of those conferences (not big 12 of course), or the nACC, it wouldn't be the end of the BE leftovers merged with the Big 12 leftovers. wouldn't be great, but it wouldn't be like C-USA...
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
post from the KU board: jester66 wrote: Saw a post that Chip on the radio clains ACC balked at Tech, so UT is leaning towards PAC.
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Texas has no leverage there anyway because they aren't joining the ACC fulltime.
 
Also, the ACC is being played by ND. They think like the BE that when ND decides to join a conference, they will join the ACC out of familiarity. ND will jilt them for the B10in one second.
 
Just proves that giving ND what they wanted was really a gift from the Catholic schools that enabled them to pretend to be a member for a few years, while a few conference executives got to schmooz with their heroes. Nice deal, eh?
 
I wonder if the NEC would take us..maybe we could win a football game in that conference
 
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i'd be surprised at a 4 team playoff. The SEC alone would demand 2 or 3 teams in the mix. So, it has to be at least 8. And they would have to include the "all else" division. It has to be a 16 team playoff. The drive to superconferences is all about the arms race and marketing to recruits and networks.
 
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