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I started reading this board last year as I was rooting for UCONN after SMU got snubbed. Personally I've always rooted for conference teams except Memphis. I dislike the city and the team.

Now for my tangent. I was really looking forward to BE basketball. I grew up watching those teams and looked forward to seeing all of those teams roll through Moody. Unfortunately it didn't happen. Like your fans, SMU fans are disappointed in being relegated to the American. I have read enough other fan's forums to say that for this conference to survive, every school has to do what they can to position themselves for a P5 invite. SMU and Houston are doing what they can to get out. UCONN and Cincinnati are doing what they can to get out, as are Memphis and to a lesser extent Temple. I think Cincinnati and Memphis are probably best positioned to make the jump, but other schools seem willing to ride the coattails of the schools seeking P5 inclusion. Until those schools decide to invest enough to move on, we are all stuck in athletic purgatory. Unfortunately, UCONN face a similar fate as SMU and Houston. The major conferences that make the most sense aren't looking at us and that's why I'm rapidly losing interest in college athletics. Sadly, the Big East you all knew is as dead as the SWC I grew up watching. All we can do is win the conference we're in and pray for the P5 invite. Until that time comes all we can do is try to create good rivalries in our current conference. I don't speak for all Mustang Nation, but I will embrace our games against your Huskies until one of us moves on to greener pastures. As long as you're not playing SMU I'm a UCONN fan.
 
My Final Four is:

Wichita State
Wisconsin
Virginia
Iowa St
I have Wisconsin winning it all

Someone above said PC???? WTF-blasphemy
No Puke - not only the 4 title issue but my contempt towards them wont allow it
No Kensucky- Squid - enough said
No Villanova- their history in the dance will not allow me to worry
No Louisville - Pitino - a step below the Squid
No SMU - Nic Moore and Larry Brown - no way
No Notre Dame - never liked the program
UNC - who cares it will be taken away
 
I'm convinced Larry Brown nailed your wife. Such an irrational disdain for the guy. I get a kick out of it.
 
smudubs said:
I started reading this board last year as I was rooting for UCONN after SMU got snubbed. Personally I've always rooted for conference teams except Memphis. I dislike the city and the team.

Now for my tangent. I was really looking forward to BE basketball. I grew up watching those teams and looked forward to seeing all of those teams roll through Moody. Unfortunately it didn't happen. Like your fans, SMU fans are disappointed in being relegated to the American. I have read enough other fan's forums to say that for this conference to survive, every school has to do what they can to position themselves for a P5 invite. SMU and Houston are doing what they can to get out. UCONN and Cincinnati are doing what they can to get out, as are Memphis and to a lesser extent Temple. I think Cincinnati and Memphis are probably best positioned to make the jump, but other schools seem willing to ride the coattails of the schools seeking P5 inclusion. Until those schools decide to invest enough to move on, we are all stuck in athletic purgatory. Unfortunately, UCONN face a similar fate as SMU and Houston. The major conferences that make the most sense aren't looking at us and that's why I'm rapidly losing interest in college athletics. Sadly, the Big East you all knew is as dead as the SWC I grew up watching. All we can do is win the conference we're in and pray for the P5 invite. Until that time comes all we can do is try to create good rivalries in our current conference. I don't speak for all Mustang Nation, but I will embrace our games against your Huskies until one of us moves on to greener pastures. As long as you're not playing SMU I'm a UCONN fan.
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I understand your sentiments
I don't understand you comparatives of UConn, Houston and SMU and the use of the word relegated-basketball wise.
SMU and Houston were relegated?
If anything, they were bettered by being placed with UConn and Cincinnati and to some extent Memphis
SMU/Houston/Memphis are no where near in the same place as UConn in the sense of basketball - both men and women
In the general overall picture of all sports, each school has its strengths and its weaknesses so I cant say on an overall view who is in a better position to move on to a P5
I guess its all up to the football programs - Ugh
 
I respect Larry Brown. I don't know if it was discussed here because I was at the game, but his insistence on the home locker room and home bench at the XL on Sunday was a very smart move. I was shocked that Cincy and Tulsa let us keep the home locker room and home bench, and when I showed up and saw that Brown had moved us out I knew he was there to play and there to win. Of course, this meant that I was now sitting behind the SMU bench instead of ours, so I also got to watch him in action quite a bit. The man had his team very well prepared for that game and I was impressed.

I don't like the team though. I do think they are dirty--especially Moore--and I do think that they intentionally targeted Boat with a specific intent to hurt him and take him out of the game, which they essentially did. Conference affiliation be damned; I want them to get smoked by Iowa State. I will allow them to beat UCLA, just because UCLA should not be there, period, and that point needs to be reinforced with an early exit.
 
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No one in the ACC

No one in the NBE

No Kentucky

No one with perceived higher prestige not already covered: UCLA, Indiana, Kansas

No Syracuse... Oh wait

None of our former conference mates who moved to a greener pa$ture: West Virginia

No one we are in a Diamond Stone battle with: Wisky, Maryland or Okie St.

So that leaves me with Arizona, Gonzaga and the rest of the field who probably can't win it
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I'm convinced Larry Brown nailed your wife. Such an irrational disdain for the guy. I get a kick out of it.
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you are a complete db - a mature statement about someone's wife but not unexpected from you - I would expect that from my 14 year old next door neighbor but even he can see the differences between success and marginality
glad I could entertain you
I have no irrational disdain, just don't understand how those like you can state his greatness without anything to back it up - his HoF was/is due to longevity
Again, his record speaks for itself
 
I'm rooting for a 3rd consecutive year of an 8 beating a 1.
 
gtcam said:
you are a complete db - a mature statement about someone's wife but not unexpected from you - I would expect that from my 14 year old next door neighbor but even he can see the differences between success and marginality
glad I could entertain you
I have no irrational disdain, just don't understand how those like you can state his greatness without anything to back it up - his HoF was/is due to longevity
Again, his record speaks for itself
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No, trust me, I think it's you that is right and literally everyone else associated with the sport that's wrong. Truly.
 
UVa - went to grad school there, so they're my second team
Iowa State - respect their program, and enjoy watching them
SMU and Cincy - conference teams
Wisconsin and Zona - because they have a good chance to knock off Kentucky and Duke, who I pray do not win
Gonzaga - would be fun to finally see them win it
 
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gtcam said:
SMU and Houston were relegated?
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Long before we were, they were, by raids coming from the SEC and the Big 8.

Look up the SWC.

That conference had numerous Final Fours (Houston among them) and a championship out of Arkansas before the raids.
 
Zona for days. I've always been a closet Zona fan since the '97 title. That team was so fun to watch.
 
If UK, Duke, and KU don't win, I'm happy.

SMU would be ideal. I could get behind Gonzaga, but I think they're overrated. Arizona, Wisconsin, Iowa State are all good with me too.
 
gtcam said:
I understand your sentiments
I don't understand you comparatives of UConn, Houston and SMU and the use of the word relegated-basketball wise.
SMU and Houston were relegated?
If anything, they were bettered by being placed with UConn and Cincinnati and to some extent Memphis
SMU/Houston/Memphis are no where near in the same place as UConn in the sense of basketball - both men and women
In the general overall picture of all sports, each school has its strengths and its weaknesses so I cant say on an overall view who is in a better position to move on to a P5
I guess its all up to the football programs - Ugh
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I was in no way comparing SMU and Houston to your basketball program. That would be blasphemy. My comment was more global as it relates to all sports. When the Big XII expands, I believe Memphis and Cincinnati will be in the discussion. Well ahead of any other team in the conference. From a geographical perspective, however, I think Houston and SMU are a better fit. But that won't happen. Likewise, I think UCONN is a better fit for the ACC, but don't see that happening in the near future. SMU's only hope is that a major conference decides to expand east (Pac 12), west (SEC or ACC), or south (Big). And the only way for that to happen is if Houston comes along as a travel partner. And I admit the chances of any of that happening is slim. If UCONN gets it's football house in order, you have a shot on your on merits without the hopes of another university stepping up it's game.

That being said, we all may be yoked together for some time because a lot has to happen for any of us to be called up from AAA. I know many of you look at SMU with disdain, but it's in everyone's best interest that SMU continue the upward progress in basketball and football and that all other teams in the conference do the same. We don't have to like one another, but I think we should respect and pull for one another.
 
smudubs said:
I was in no way comparing SMU and Houston to your basketball program. That would be blasphemy. My comment was more global as it relates to all sports. When the Big XII expands, I believe Memphis and Cincinnati will be in the discussion. Well ahead of any other team in the conference. From a geographical perspective, however, I think Houston and SMU are a better fit. But that won't happen. Likewise, I think UCONN is a better fit for the ACC, but don't see that happening in the near future. SMU's only hope is that a major conference decides to expand east (Pac 12), west (SEC or ACC), or south (Big). And the only way for that to happen is if Houston comes along as a travel partner. And I admit the chances of any of that happening is slim. If UCONN gets it's football house in order, you have a shot on your on merits without the hopes of another university stepping up it's game.

That being said, we all may be yoked together for some time because a lot has to happen for any of us to be called up from AAA. I know many of you look at SMU with disdain, but it's in everyone's best interest that SMU continue the upward progress in basketball and football and that all other teams in the conference do the same. We don't have to like one another, but I think we should respect and pull for one another.
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I'm hoping we either:

1) root for each other from separate P5 conferences; or,
2) develop a healthy dislike for each other.

As it is now, I'm definitely pulling for you guys. Do our conference proud.
 
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Cannot believe I'm back to rooting for conference, but I'm rooting for conference. SMU. FML.
 
Why would anyone want another AAC team to win the title (never happen by the way)? I know you'll say to build the reputation of the conference, but I'm not of that viewpoint. We don't need anything to help their recruiting and have better regular seasons and cost us one of the conference's two NCAA bids. I prefer a team like Virginia whose winning would be an aberration and not lead to their long term dominance. For me, every decision about who to root for comes down to what's in UCONN's best interest. If not for Diamond Stone, I'd be pulling for Wisconsin. They're a pretty likeable team and probably have the best chance to beat Kensucky.
 
tzznandrew said:
Only rooting for PC so far. Other than that, this is mostly my list.

No Kentucky.
No UNC--unless they are playing Kentucky.
No Duke, unless they are playing UK or UNC.
No Louisville, unless they are playing UK, UNC, or Duke.
No Kansas, unless they are playing UK, UNC, Duke, or Louisville.

Otherwise, go SMU, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Arizona, Iowa State, Wichita State, or Villanova, in roughly that order. I'll pick up other teams as they get farther.
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Pretty much the same list of no's. One other I'm torn about. VCU. Every time I see them I see freescooter. Last seasons NC and the dismal past two football seasons have given this forum some reprieve. But a VCU run could change things.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Pretty much the same list of no's. One other I'm torn about. VCU. Every time I see them I see freescooter. Last seasons NC and the dismal past two football seasons have given this forum some reprieve. But a VCU run could change things.
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You know, its entirely possible for Kevin Ollie AND Shaka Smart to both be really good coaches.
 
I still don't quite understand the animosity towards the Big East. That's not to say there are not legitimate reasons to dislike those schools, I just figured that in a climate where the discrepancy between the have and have not's is widening by the day, we would be more inclined to pull for the conference that poses the biggest threat to the P5.

Maybe I'm the only one but I always root for Northeast basketball to do well. The higher the quality of play in the region, the better the rivalries, tradition, fan support, etc. The P5 is essentially attempting to destroy college basketball in the northeast yet half the time it seems like people on this board are rooting for it to happen.

That being said, I'm mostly just rooting against P5 schools. Some of the more tolerable contenders include Virginia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Iowa State, but I'd still rather a non-P5 win it.
 
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I enjoying watching good basketball... with that said wisconsin and nova I like... Throw in some MSU even though I think their depth is an issue, trice and valentine got a smooth j.... Get duke & kentucky out early and its a good tournament
 
1) SMU - keep the money in the family
2) Cincy - see above
3) Gonzaga - show a non P5 can win it again
4) any other non P5 team not in the Big East from the old Big East
5) Wisconsin - Other than the Stone impact which is already water under the bridge the most palatable of the P5
6) Virginia - Second to Wiscy for who I could be OK with winning
7) A Big East Team from the old Big East
8) any other team than Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas or Arizona, Louisville - no need for the blue bloods to distance themselves and no reason for Arizona or Louisvile to enter the blue blood conversation.
 
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I'm rooting for Kentucky and Duke because they are upstanding moral programs and I have complete respect for each of them, especially as a UConn fan
 
Eskapeesto said:
I can tolerate an SMU run (especially a blowout of UCLA) but I can't stomach seeing Nic Moore lift a NC trophy. Once the 12-16 seeds are eliminated, I think Michigan State might have a shot if they upset UVA. I could also pull for ISU if they get past Gonzaga & Duke. Of the top seeds, I guess Wisconsin is the least odious.

Above all though, Anyone But Kentucky. Duke is a close second but I'd prefer them over a 40-0 season.
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Don't think u have to worry about SMU winning it all. They wouldn't be in my top 40 of who has an actual chance.
 
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