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Excalibur said:
It's not even legal here, because the back foot drags after the last step. You can lift it, but dragging it is a travel.
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Dragging doesn’t matter here, no pivot foot established. If dragging mattered in motion Steph’s decel would be illegal and many euro’s would be as well.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Dragging doesn’t matter here, no pivot foot established. If dragging mattered in motion Steph’s decel would be illegal and many euro’s would be as well.
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A pivot foot is always established when you don’t land on both feet together. He takes a gather, +2 steps. The end of the second step establishes the pivot foot, and the back foot drags after that. Travel.
 
Excalibur said:
A pivot foot is always established when you don’t land on both feet together. He takes a gather, +2 steps. The end of the second step establishes the pivot foot, and the back foot drags after that. Travel.
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Didn’t know that. From the rules I guess it is. But I don’t think it is ever called. I have more issue with the gather nonsense anyways.
 
Excalibur said:
It's not even legal here, because the back foot drags after the last step. You can lift it, but dragging it is a travel.
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You shouldn't be allowed to take 5 steps, you shouldn't be allowed to foul bait to the levels we're seeing but the league wants teams to score nearly 120 ppg.
 
If Giannis took all the time he put into perfecting this try-hard rule exploitation and put it into shooting the basketball, he'd be a better shooter than Steph Curry by now.
 
Why evaluating skill sets across eras requires context, guys can train operating under a completely different rule set

 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I mean technically it is legal, the whole gather rule is a weird one. Not saying I agree with it and it is very odd/illegal looking, thems just the rules.
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I don't actually think it's technically legal. He "gathers" with his right hand on/under the ball in full control, then stutters and takes the two additional long steps. It's five if you start from when he stops dribbling, four from controlling the ball with the right hand fully. So is it textbook legal if you start counting when his left hand joins the right on the ball? Maybe. But then he took 3 steps before gathering, shouldn't that be a travel?

Either way, it points out the silliness of the "gather" rule if this monstrosity is considered legal. Someone in one of the X threads that posted this showed a Julius Erving dunk from way out by the left sideline, with only the two large steps and an explosion to the rim, the standard approach only. Players could cover a lot of distance in the past without taking 5 steps.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
I don't actually think it's technically legal. He "gathers" with his right hand on/under the ball in full control, then stutters and takes the two additional long steps. It's five if you start from when he stops dribbling, four from controlling the ball with the right hand fully. So is it textbook legal if you start counting when his left hand joins the right on the ball? Maybe. But then he took 3 steps before gathering, shouldn't that be a travel?

Either way, it points out the silliness of the "gather" rule if this monstrosity is considered legal. Someone in one of the X threads that posted this showed a Julius Erving dunk from way out by the left sideline, with only the two large steps and an explosion to the rim, the standard approach only. Players could cover a lot of distance in the past without taking 5 steps.
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This is where people will cite "floating" the ball. Technically it's legal so long as the ball is spinning in his hand and no part of his hand is below the ball. They always miss that part of his hand is under the ball for most of the move.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
I don't actually think it's technically legal. He "gathers" with his right hand on/under the ball in full control, then stutters and takes the two additional long steps. It's five if you start from when he stops dribbling, four from controlling the ball with the right hand fully. So is it textbook legal if you start counting when his left hand joins the right on the ball? Maybe. But then he took 3 steps before gathering, shouldn't that be a travel?

Either way, it points out the silliness of the "gather" rule if this monstrosity is considered legal. Someone in one of the X threads that posted this showed a Julius Erving dunk from way out by the left sideline, with only the two large steps and an explosion to the rim, the standard approach only. Players could cover a lot of distance in the past without taking 5 steps.
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Some of these guys want the players to be allowed to go full court without dribbling as long as the ball is spinning in the palm of their hand.
 
DRBackup said:
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NBA are refs a lot better than Big East refs. and you can challenge and reverse BS foul or missed foul calls in NBA which is a huge improvement. Superstars have always been given extra steps and leeway on travel calls in NBA. I would take a NBA officiating crew over whatever crew is officiating UConn’s game every time. That video is definitely a travel on though. Commentators explanation is ridiculous
 
Kalkbrenner is 7-7 from the floor tonight and 26-28 so far in is nba career.

Not sure that’s sustainable. But we’ll see.
 
Gurleyman said:
Kalkbrenner is 7-7 from the floor tonight and 26-28 so far in is nba career.

Not sure that’s sustainable. But we’ll see.
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The team stinks but he's been great for them. At the very least he's going to be a good backup center in the league.
 

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