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NBA Finals: OKC v Indiana

superjohn said:
Thunder are awful to watch, it's wild how the refs treat them. Dort and Caruso get away with constant clutching and grabbing while Gilgeous-Alexander constantly pushes off and foul baits.

I love the midrange game and love that it's being brought back by Gilgeous-Alexander but not like this. He isn't too athletic so he uses every trick in the book to create space and to foul bait. Shame on the refs/NBA for allowing it. Reminds me of how unwatchable Harden made things.
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Shai is athletic but he is normally facing 2 guys on him and they are being physical with him. He has to create all the offense as others don't do it as much on the team. Indiana is fouling him and other players all the time. Refs are calling it the same on both sides of the ball. I'm just glad to not see a 3 fest like when the Celtics won last year. That is boring and I'm a Celtics fan. I do like OKC and the way they play D it reminds me of some of Calhouns teams who played very physical snd created turnovers from it.
 
superjohn said:
Thunder are awful to watch, it's wild how the refs treat them. Dort and Caruso get away with constant clutching and grabbing while Gilgeous-Alexander constantly pushes off and foul baits.

I love the midrange game and love that it's being brought back by Gilgeous-Alexander but not like this. He isn't too athletic so he uses every trick in the book to create space and to foul bait. Shame on the refs/NBA for allowing it. Reminds me of how unwatchable Harden made things.
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What Caruso got away with, especially against Denver and Minnesota, was shocking. Against Indiana he’s still getting away with a lot.
 
Another example of how the NBA has dropped the ball with presentation, especially if you were a kid in the 90s witnessing those Bulls starting lineup intros

 
aceboon said:
Another example of how the NBA has dropped the ball with presentation, especially if you were a kid in the 90s witnessing those Bulls starting lineup intros

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The other day I looked up the finals ratings to see how bad they are this year. They're bad but they've basically been bad since Jordan retired from the Bulls. Those Warriors Cavs series had good numbers but nowhere near the #'s when Jordan played and the rest is just pretty bad.
 
Jalen Williams has a more complete game than SGA and he doesn’t have to push off to get his shot off.
 
Haliburton's a brilliant player, but playing hurt is a skill and he doesn't seem to have it. Seems like any sort of nic or bruise torpedoes the whole machine with him. And that's not based on this year or this series. He's had more "is he healthy?" performances than any star in the league.
 
Hali's calf is cooked, I can't see 2 days off doing much for recovery
 
TroyHall98 said:
Jalen Williams has a more complete game than SGA and he doesn’t have to push off to get his shot off.
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JDUB is going to be a very special player in a couple years. This is his stepping stone moment with 40 points in the NBA Finals.
 
OKC defensive gameplan was really strong last night. How many turnovers did the Pacers have because they drove to the hoop, there were 3 guys waiting, and then they panicked and lost the ball?

The Thunder have lost back to back games two times this season. Once back in November and once at the end of the season when they had the 1 seed secured already

With Haliburton playing hurt, this one is over!
 
There was no way the ratings were going to be good this year. I am certain there are many fans like me that really only watch when there team is still in the running.

With the two mega market teams from Indy and Oklahoma City how could this have possibly been a highly watched series. Then you have the refs clearly demonstrating a favorable whistle for OKC….SGA pushes off with his off arm on every drive to the hoop. It is basically his only way of getting enough space to get his shot off. Just amazing that he never gets called. If that was most any other player it happens a few times the defender hollywoods a bit on the contact and offensive foul is called more than 50% of the time. So the player has to stop doing it to stay in the game. It is kind of disgraceful.

The only interest I have is that I have hit at least one parlay of +500 in each game of the series. Tonight it was easy just put Haliburton on the under to start and pair it with some SGA, JDub and Siakam props and boom winner.

The NBA if anything is fairly predictable. On the road big game against a good physical defense that is allowed to play physical and nursing a calf injury and boom small body Haliburton is over. Have to be honest after that BS choke gesture (which BTW if throat slashing is banned the choke gesture has to be banned) he is going to be forever on my players I love to hate list.

If a fan says they like him as a player if he did that to your team after quite possibly hitting the luckiest shot in conference finals history I would not believe that fan. I only have one name for him but won’t post it as it certainly would be moded out. Wonder what the actual make percentage for balls that bounce higher than the shot clock after hitting the rim is. Cannot be more than 10% no way.

Yes I am an un-apologetic Knicks fan and don’t see my position changing no matter how far we get from that game one loss.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
There was no way the ratings were going to be good this year. I am certain there are many fans like me that really only watch when there team is still in the running.

With the two mega market teams from Indy and Oklahoma City how could this have possibly been a highly watched series. Then you have the refs clearly demonstrating a favorable whistle for OKC….SGA pushes off with his off arm on every drive to the hoop. It is basically his only way of getting enough space to get his shot off. Just amazing that he never gets called. If that was most any other player it happens a few times the defender hollywoods a bit on the contact and offensive foul is called more than 50% of the time. So the player has to stop doing it to stay in the game. It is kind of disgraceful.

The only interest I have is that I have hit at least one parlay of +500 in each game of the series. Tonight it was easy just put Haliburton on the under to start and pair it with some SGA, JDub and Siakam props and boom winner.

The NBA if anything is fairly predictable. On the road big game against a good physical defense that is allowed to play physical and nursing a calf injury and boom small body Haliburton is over. Have to be honest after that BS choke gesture (which BTW if throat slashing is banned the choke gesture has to be banned) he is going to be forever on my players I love to hate list.

If a fan says they like him as a player if he did that to your team after quite possibly hitting the luckiest shot in conference finals history I would not believe that fan. I only have one name for him but won’t post it as it certainly would be moded out. Wonder what the actual make percentage for balls that bounce higher than the shot clock after hitting the rim is. Cannot be more than 10% no way.

Yes I am an un-apologetic Knicks fan and don’t see my position changing no matter how far we get from that game one loss.
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The 4-seeded Pacers had a 2-1 series lead in the finals after knocking out a 60-win Cavs win earlier in the playoffs.

I’m not sure this is the year to be beating the “NBA is predictable” drum.
 
superjohn said:
The other day I looked up the finals ratings to see how bad they are this year. They're bad but they've basically been bad since Jordan retired from the Bulls. Those Warriors Cavs series had good numbers but nowhere near the #'s when Jordan played and the rest is just pretty bad.
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Are the ratings bad?

Nba is winning the week ratings wise, to take Adam Silver’s side. Outside of nfl, no mature property has maintained tv ratings.

They are down 20% year over year. Explanation is simple, Boston and Dallas are huge markets. Okc and Indiana are middling.

The nba is more like baseball in that it is a regional business these days, not national.

For all the bad the nba ratings since Jordan, Celtics were sold in 2004 for $360m to Wyc Grousebeck.

In 2025 sold for $6.1 billion.

How bad are the tv ratings. They sold their tv rights for 11 years and $76 billion until 2036.

Lastly, espn’s production value, storytelling, and general narrative sucks. They need an entirely new nba editorial staff on the tv side and need to do more news, analysis, features and not hot takes.
 
UConn990411 said:
The 4-seeded Pacers had a 2-1 series lead in the finals after knocking out a 60-win Cavs win earlier in the playoffs.

I’m not sure this is the year to be beating the “NBA is predictable” drum.
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Players not outcome of games. I never put game winner and loser in a parlay. I just know my results this post season have been successful using that strategy.

I was under points and over assists in all of parlays that contained SGA last night. Siakam was an easy over on points since if Hali was pretty much guaranteed not to score Siakam had to increase his usage. Had JDub over points for the last two games and the Haliburton pick was a gimme as far as I was concerned.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Are the ratings bad?

Nba is winning the week ratings wise, to take Adam Silver’s side. Outside of nfl, no mature property has maintained tv ratings.

They are down 20% year over year. Explanation is simple, Boston and Dallas are huge markets. Okc and Indiana are middling.

The nba is more like baseball in that it is a regional business these days, not national.

For all the bad the nba ratings since Jordan, Celtics were sold in 2004 for $360m to Wyc Grousebeck.

In 2025 sold for $6.1 billion.

How bad are the tv ratings. They sold their tv rights for 11 years and $76 billion until 2036.

Lastly, espn’s production value, storytelling, and general narrative sucks. They need an entirely new nba editorial staff on the tv side and need to do more news, analysis, features and not hot takes.
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Yes, the ratings are bad. The NBA finals ratings have stunk the last 6 finals. The NFL just had their highest ratings season in the past 9 years.

NBA Finals television ratings - Wikipedia

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JohnFSilver said:
That’s great. NFL is the only sport that does this. The nba is awash in money.
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I didn't say anything about the NBA's money.

You asked if the ratings are bad? I told you they're bad and they've stunk for the past 6 finals.
 
The fact that the Pacers are gonna go into luxury tax for Myles Turner is crazy. He’s been the same exact player for 10 years. So overrated, soft, and plays on stilts. Huge reason this series is where it’s at, the 5 spot is a glaring weakness for them and they should sign/draft guys who can defend and rebound at that spot
 
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