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My comp for Castle

Jimmy is not a tweener. He runs the offense when healthy and in the playoffs. He is a versatile defender who had the strength and speed to guard 1-4. Steph will likely be asked to do the same at some point.
yes he is. lebron is also a SF/PF that runs the offense ie a point forward. these skilled 6'7-6'8 guys are all playing stretch 4 these days but castle isnt as big and strong. i see castle as more of a big guard like cade cunningham or jrue holiday or derrick white. not butler or lebron or kawhi.
 
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yes he is. lebron is also a SF/PF that runs the offense ie a point forward. these skilled 6'7-6'8 guys are all playing stretch 4 these days but castle isnt as big and strong. i see castle as more of a big guard like cade cunningham or jrue holiday or derrick white. not butler or lebron or kawhi.
Jimmy became this “SF/PF” 12 years into his career. He was a SG/SF his whole career before this. Thats fine that YOU see him as closer to Holiday/White, that doesn’t make it an apt comparison. He’s a lot closer to young Jimmy than either of those guys, like down to body, movement, shooting and strength.
 
Jimmy became this “SF/PF” 12 years into his career. He was a SG/SF his whole career before this. Thats fine that YOU see him as closer to Holiday/White, that doesn’t make it an apt comparison. He’s a lot closer to young Jimmy than either of those guys, like down to body, movement, shooting and strength.
Young jimmy was also a PF at Marquette and in HS and castle has always been a CG. Butler is not apt just because YOU think it is.
 
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Young jimmy was also a PF at Marquette and in HS and castle has always been a CG. Butler is not apt just because YOU think it is.
Bringing high school into it shows how little legs your argument has, lol.

And no, Jimmy was not a PF in college. Do some research.
 
Jimmy is not a tweener. He runs the offense when healthy and in the playoffs. He is a versatile defender who had the strength and speed to guard 1-4. Steph will likely be asked to do the same at some point.

Jimmy was measure at 6’6 without shoes at the combine. I imagine Steph will be right around there as well. Steph apparently has a 6’9 wingspan while Jimmy measured at 6’7.5.

You nailed it. Jimmy is a wing. He can play small ball 4 but Castle probably could too if we wanted.
 
In @bendm defense, I think Castle has more PG skills than Jimmy naturally, so I get the idea. But his skill set and body and overall player profile tracks more Jimmy than SGA or others, my opinion.

Marcus Smart mixed with a more fluid and creator-based offensive game would be a heckuva NBA G too.
 
Modern NBA doesn't have positions on offense 1-4. Ballhandler, wing, big... but even that gets blurry depending on the team. Who you can defend is the only important position IMO.

He's a secondary ballhandler with lead potential. 1-4 defender. Thinking much past that probably isn't going to be very helpful.
 
Exactly, and he literally has for us.
But he can’t in the NBA. He can play ”small ball” SF in the NBA. He’s not like Butler. He’s a big point guard. By the way, Dan has correctly ended the Steph at 4 thing even in college. Stewart comes in now. Those were desperation lineups.

Do people get how everyone is like 2” taller at most positions in the NBA?. Jaylen Brown was mostly a SG until this season. NBA is all about maximizing height + skill.
 
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Modern NBA doesn't have positions on offense 1-4. Ballhandler, wing, big... but even that gets blurry depending on the team. Who you can defend is the only important position IMO.

He's a secondary ballhandler with lead potential. 1-4 defender. Thinking much past that probably isn't going to be very helpful.
Exactly. I’d use the word versatility. He’s super appealing because he can do most anything you ask. I don’t want him on a bunch of NBA 4s as he’d get destroyed. But he can disrupt them getting the ball or dribbling.

His comments about defense suggest that he’s starting to understand it. Use you size to dominate small guards, quickness to irritate big guys, strength to hold bully ball players.
 
But he can’t in the NBA. He can play ”small ball” SF in the NBA. He’s not like Butler. He’s a big point guard. By the way, Dan has correctly ended the Steph at 4 thing even in college. Stewart comes in now. Those were desperation lineups.

Do people get how everyone is like 2” taller at most positions in the NBA?. Jaylen Brown was mostly a SG until this season. NBA is all about maximizing height + skill.
He certainly could in the NBA if needed. I mean, Josh Hart has played the 4 for the Knicks and Steph has almost 3 inches on him. Again, the NBA is virtually positionless, at least the good teams are.

Stewie has stepped up defensively, that’s why Steph doesn’t have to play the 4 much on D anymore. But he absolutely could, and defended very well when he did.

There are really only a few 4’s in the league that I would say have a significant advantage over him when he would check them defensively.
 
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Modern NBA doesn't have positions on offense 1-4. Ballhandler, wing, big... but even that gets blurry depending on the team. Who you can defend is the only important position IMO.

He's a secondary ballhandler with lead potential. 1-4 defender. Thinking much past that probably isn't going to be very helpful.
This is nba now.

It really is positionless outside of the center.

Jayson Tatum is the 1-4 on the Celtics. He initiates a ton of offense while holiday and white are on the wing.

In the nba. You play who you can defend. For castle, definitely backcourt and wings.

Power players? Probably not.

On Celtics, everyone but Porzingis, Kornet and Hauser dribble the ball up the floor. Even Horford does from time to time.
 
He certainly could in the NBA if needed. I mean, Josh Hart has played the 4 for the Knicks and Steph has almost 3 inches on him. Again, the NBA is virtually positionless, at least the good teams are.

Stewie has stepped up defensively, that’s why Steph doesn’t have to play the 4 much on D anymore. But he absolutely could, and defended very well when he did.

There are really only a few 4’s in the league that I would say have a significant advantage over him when he would check them defensively.
Don’t really see him on Homgren or Wemby. Even Horford would destroy him. He wasn’t good guarding 4s. He was ok. The idea is it is just for a moment In a good defense.
 
Don’t really see him on Homgren or Wemby. Even Horford would destroy him. He wasn’t good guarding 4s. He was ok. The idea is it is just for a moment In a good defense.
Well Chet starts at the 5 so no issue there. He wouldn’t be guarding Wemby regardless and Horford rarely starts, and usually plays the 5 when he is on the court. So those are matchups you just really wouldn’t see.
 
Jimmy was not a PF in college. Do some research.
lol. jimmy started at CENTER for marquette as a sophmore and at POWER FORWARD as a junior

09-10: david cubillan / johnson odom / maurice aker / lazar hayward / JIMMY BUTLER
10-11: dwight buycks / johnson odom / jae crowder / JIMMY BUTLER / chris otule

i'm sure you'll try to come up with a way to explain this away too
 
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lol. jimmy started at CENTER for marquette as a sophmore and at POWER FORWARD as a junior

09-10: david cubillan / johnson odom / maurice aker / lazar hayward / JIMMY BUTLER
10-11: dwight buycks / johnson odom / jae crowder / JIMMY BUTLER / chris otule

i'm sure you'll try to come up with a way to explain this away too
Lazar Hayward played more down low than Jimmy did lol.

Crowder played PF. He is literally listed as a forward while Jimmy was listed as a guard. Again, look it up.

It’s really easy to go on Basketballreference and see the main positions players play.
 
Lazar Hayward played more down low than Jimmy did lol.

Crowder played PF. He is literally listed as a forward while Jimmy was listed as a guard. Again, look it up.

It’s really easy to go on Basketballreference and see the main positions players play.
so jimmy was still PF as a soph then... and if you looked it up youd know jae only started 17 games and vander blue started 12 who was another guard, meaning jimmy at least started those games at PF.
 
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so jimmy was still PF as a soph then... and if you looked it up youd know jae only started 17 games and vander blue started 12 who was another guard. meaning jimmy started at PF. i watched the games too bro.
Marquette was also incredibly perimeter oriented because they were always the smallest team on the court. Literally just look at Basketball Reference to see what position Jimmy ended up playing the first 10 years of his NBA career. It spells it out for you.
 
Marquette was also incredibly perimeter oriented because they were always the smallest team on the court. Literally just look at Basketball Reference to see what position Jimmy ended up playing the first 10 years of his NBA career. It spells it out for you.
i said modern day 3/4s all have guard skills. i never said butler could ONLY play stretch 4. everyone knows butler has started at SG/SF/PF and that is why he's not a good comp for castle. castle might never start a game at the 4 so there have to be better comps. if i ever see castle starting a game at PF in the nba even if it takes 12 years i'll give you a shoutout.
 
i never said butler could ONLY play stretch 4. i said modern day 3/4s all have guard skills. everyone knows butler has started at SG/SF/PF. but that is why he's not a good comp for castle because castle might never start a game at the 4. if i ever see castle starting a game at PF in the nba even if it takes 12 years i'll give you a shoutout.
And what i’m saying is why not? Again, Jimmy didn’t start playing some 4 WELL into his NBA career. It’s naive to project one way or another that way. But, Steph is pretty much the same size, equal athletically and projects to be a great defender in his own right. Just because Steph has more refined playmaking skills earlier in his career doesn’t mean he can’t play multiple roles.
 
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He’s new Age Ron Harper. Don’t realize how good he is oversized PG but not traditional. Very Similar to Harper in his rookie season.
 
Stewie reminds me of Caron.
Maybe slightly smaller Evan turner with better shooting mechanics for Steph?
Agree with Stewie displaying shades of Caron.

Jimmy Butler and Steph Castle have so many similarities, it’s an easy comp to see.

Been saying both of these since either player committed.

I also admittedly saw some Paul Pierce in Stewie’s game from his HS highlights and full game footage.
 
Caron Butler. 6-7, 220. Castle 6-6.5. Caron was older at UConn. And in two years (in the NBA) Castle could be a Butler clone. A monster driving to the basket, collecting fouls. Tough rebounder. All that's missing is the three point shot and you can hear it coming like a freight train.

I should have seen it sooner. In my defense I'm old.
He reminds me of DWade. Maybe not as explosive an athlete but his build, the way he drives but not as explosive an athlete. But again im terrible at comparisons. I once compared Daniels to Tracy McGrady. :/
 

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