My comp for Castle

[BlueMAB]

I don't. AK wins championships.

I'm hoping I simply missed the sarcasm though.

 

[Kenny11]

I think he has real point guard skills. But at uconn he’s not ball dominant so we don’t really see it. Maybe he is a later blooming version of Cade on offense in the nba.

 

[aceboon]

are we assuming castle is growing 2 inches and gaining 20 lbs?

butler was a score-first SF/stretch 4. castle is going to be a defense-first SG his first couple years at least. i could see him playing a role like Jrue Holiday is on the celtics since he's no longer the primary ball handler.

Caron was basically 6'6"(he measured 6'5.25" w/o shoes pre-draft), he was as prototypical a wing as it gets, not a stretch 4.

 

[Mr. French]

Got the last name right. It’s Jimmy Butler.

That's been my comp for him too.

 

[bendm]

Caron was basically 6'6"(he measured 6'5.25" w/o shoes pre-draft), he was as prototypical a wing as it gets, not a stretch 4.

Then he grew cuz He was 6’7 230. He averaged 6+ rebs several seasons if he was playing today he’d be a 3/4 tweener. He was as big as guys like kawhi, Tobias Harris, Tatum, Kuzma, Kuminga, PJ Washington etc who are all starting PFs.

 

[Samoo]

Brandon Roy with better knees and defense. 6'6", 211 lbs. Game never seems fast or rushed, poised, always in control, strong, good handles, good passing. Roy's defense was fine for a guy with no knee cartilage but Castle's is going to be elite.

 

[OceanDoggie]

Brandon Roy with better knees and defense. 6'6", 211 lbs. Game never seems fast or rushed, poised, always in control, strong, good handles, good passing. Roy's defense was fine for a guy with no knee cartilage but Castle's is going to be elite.

Getting closer. Roy was also more explosive up the floor with the ball in his hands. Also more polished offensively, but he also played all 4 years.

 

[Shoulder god]

Tyrese Halliburton. Passed by a bunch of teams because he wasn't terribly athletic and had a funky shot.. Their are 11 teams who passed on him and kicking themselves in the butt. Castle a little bigger but athletically similar. Could have the same NBA arc.

 

[McLovin]

At Castle's age Caron was in hs though. Next season, I could easily see Castle having a similar season as Caron's freshman year if he stayed.

And let’s not forget that Castle missed nearly 2 months at the beginning of the season.

 

[HuskyHawk]

He really reminds me of that UConn great Stephon Castle. Fortunately, nobody like him before or after.

I hate these comps except maybe to skills. Hawkins curling off screens catching elevating reminds me of Rip. Castle looks a little like Caron when attacking the rim, but that's where that comp ends for me.

 

[HuskyBoi]

It's Jimmy Butler and nothing else.

 

[HuskyInfinity]

Been on the SGA train since before he got to uconn. Those highlights were all about his midrange game which I think will return as a huge part of his game in the pros.

That said, I see a lot of validity in the Brandon Roy comps too.

 

[Khal Drogo]

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Although Rick Majerus wasn't much of a fan.

Rick and. Dan Hurley have the same hair style

 

[bazz&boujee]

I don't. AK wins championships.

I'm hoping I simply missed the sarcasm though.

Switch Rudy with Alex on last years team. Do we even make the tournement?

 

[JohnFSilver]

I see Darius Garland, young Jrue Holiday.

Kid is going to be a very good pro. Seems like a future 20+ game lead guard in pros, eventually.

 

[navery12]

I see a combination of Fergie and Jesus

 

[bendm]

It's Jimmy Butler and nothing else.

butler was the heat's primary PF in the nba finals last year. castle is more likely to play PG than PF. but that's why i like the jrue holiday comp. i think of him as a mini butler. castle is somewhere in between. he should play as an off-ball guard capable of scoring around the rim. needs to work on his 3. will be an elite defender.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

butler was the heat's primary PF in the nba finals last year. castle is more likely to play PG than PF. but that's why i like the jrue holiday comp. i think of him as a mini butler. castle is somewhere in between.

That’s 12 years into the league Jimmy Butler. And he doesn’t play the 4 on offense regardless.

 

[aceboon]

I see Darius Garland, young Jrue Holiday.

Kid is going to be a very good pro. Seems like a future 20+ game lead guard in pros, eventually.

what??

 

[bendm]

That’s 12 years into the league Jimmy Butler. And he doesn’t play the 4 on offense regardless.

so what, giannis mobley, and maybe towns are the only starting PFs that do play the 4 on offense. otherwise it's 1 in 5 out. Tatum, Randle, Kawhi, Harris, Butler, Durant, etc are all stretch 4s

 

[aceboon]

butler was the heat's primary PF in the nba finals last year. castle is more likely to play PG than PF. but that's why i like the jrue holiday comp. i think of him as a mini butler. castle is somewhere in between. he should play as an off-ball guard capable of scoring around the rim. needs to work on his 3. will be an elite defender.

Butler and Caleb Martin were pretty interchagable at the forward spots in the playoffs and then the Heat also went to Kevin Love for minutes in the Finals as well. We're comparing playstyle and physical builds, Butler is not a traditional PF when playing in a position less system.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

so what, giannis mobley, and maybe towns are the only starting PFs that do play the 4 on offense. otherwise it's 1 in 5 out. Tatum, Randle, Kawhi, Harris, Butler, Durant, etc are all stretch 4s

So, I don’t understand your point then?

 

[aceboon]

Then he grew cuz He was 6’7 230. He averaged 6+ rebs several seasons if he was playing today he’d be a 3/4 tweener. He was as big as guys like kawhi, Tobias Harris, Tatum, Kuzma, Kuminga, PJ Washington etc who are all starting PFs.

Listed NBA measurements always boosted guys an inch back then, I doubt after 22 Caron grew more height wise compared to his draft measurements. Either way you're comparing Caron to guys now, back then in Caron's era he was not playing a stretch 4 position in the NBA.

 

[superjohn]

what??

Castle is most like Mark Price.

 

[Palatine]

I get the Jimmy comps, but yeah if he’s going to be a PG at the next level it should be SGA.

His mid range bag has a long way to go though before getting there. But they can play to their strengths offensively in a very similar way.

Think SGA might be up there for leading the league in steals too.

Good point. Castle can certainly handle the ball, as could Caron. But I think the Castle will be very valuable off the ball. And there area ton of more talented point guards in the NBA.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Good point. Castle can certainly handle the ball, as could Caron. But I think the Castle will be very valuable off the ball. And there area ton of more talented point guards in the NBA.

Not sure about that. He's a gifted passer. There is a real benefit to having an oversized PG that can switch and guard bigger guys. Is he PG like Iverson or John Stockton? No, but that role is mostly gone now. He's like Derek White in a lot of ways, with worse shooting at this point, but probably better scoring inside. Probably a better passer.

 

[bendm]

So, I don’t understand your point then?

that jimmy is a modern day tweener F and Castle is not/will not be. it goes without saying these modern day Fs all have guard skills but castle still doesnt have the size unless he grows another inch or two and adds 20 lbs and i dont think that's likely.

 

[bendm]

Listed NBA measurements always boosted guys an inch back then, I doubt after 22 Caron grew more height wise compared to his draft measurements. Either way you're comparing Caron to guys now, back then in Caron's era he was not playing a stretch 4 position in the NBA.

so we can compare castle to guys back then but we cant compare guys back then to guys now? i didnt make the caron comp in the first place

 

[CardiacAndre7]

that jimmy is a modern day tweener F and Castle is not/will not be. it goes without saying these modern day Fs all have guard skills but castle still doesnt have the size unless he grows another inch or two and adds 20 lbs and i dont think that's likely.

Jimmy is not a tweener. He runs the offense when healthy and in the playoffs. He is a versatile defender who had the strength and speed to guard 1-4. Steph will likely be asked to do the same at some point.

Jimmy was measure at 6’6 without shoes at the combine. I imagine Steph will be right around there as well. Steph apparently has a 6’9 wingspan while Jimmy measured at 6’7.5.

 

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Not sure about that. He's a gifted passer. There is a real benefit to having an oversized PG that can switch and guard bigger guys. Is he PG like Iverson or John Stockton? No, but that role is mostly gone now. He's like Derek White in a lot of ways, with worse shooting at this point, but probably better scoring inside. Probably a better passer.

Yeah I saw the Jrue Holiday comp in this thread and that’s so realistic to what Castle can be. Who is pretty much the same player as Derek White anyways.