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True, but I don't expect too much from them that game. It will be their first venture against a big time school and @Uconn to boot.

Well again, some people's "very good" and our "very good" are different. They were a decent team. S16 was as far as they got. I think they will improve this year, but they have a long way to go to be able to play with UCONN.
Agreed. As I mentioned, I'm all for being respectful of other teams and taking no one for granted. People can say "but they return everyone on their roster from last year and earned a 1 seed in the NCAA's". Sure, but they played almost no one last year leading up to the NCAA's and losing to UNC was not exactly a "good" loss.

I expect them to be in the top 10 all season. I think Staley is a good coach. I'm sure she will have her team prepared. But I'd like for someone who disagrees with us to explain how they have players who favorably match up with Stewie, Moriah and KML.

Is there a chance they could beat UCONN? Of course. That's why you play the game. They will probably be preseason 3 or 4 and should stay there most of the year unless they lose. It will likely be a top 5 matchup when they come to Storrs.
 
Absolutely love your words, Mr.T. Right on. But this former English teacher cannot resist grading the message, tongue firmly embedded in cheek, no offense PLEASE. :))

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Well, you appear to be taking a wee bit of a thumping on this, dear one through no fault of your own. Take heart my friend for we defend our fellow boneyarders regardless of fame or flaw, often with tongue in cheek and in teasing manner. Each poster has their unique manner and is appreciated as one of the ingredients that make up the stew that is the Boneyard.

Tampering with any of the ingredients is usually met in this way.

Now you find yourself as one of us and I hope that you will continue to post. You did after all give Tony a couple of A+s for his best attributes. And the rest....eh, we just move on to the next entry.
 
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TonyC don't need no steenkin syntax. Anyone who can coin a phrase like the never t0 be forgotten; (re PHS and the "sixpack") "If she starts them all, the others will all have to sit." gets a lifetime pass from such mundane details. Did e e cummings worry about syntax? Did Joyce worry about run-on sentences? Attention to such prescriptionistic fripperies would simply put rocks in the burbling stream of Tony's creativity.
I'd like it more than once if I could...
 
Absolutely love your words, Mr.T. Right on. But this former English teacher cannot resist grading the message, tongue firmly embedded in cheek, no offense PLEASE. :))

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If you're going to inhabit the Boneyard, you're just going to have to live with the constant muttering of the syntax, punctuation, and spelling police in your head. The targets of externalized comments are either too set in their ways, too uncaring and/or too petulant to respond in the way you hope ;^)
 
I hate not being able to edit. I dropped the negative in my haste typing and posting and only got back to the board now. Ugh! I meant to say,"You are not used to Tonyese..."
 
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I hate not being able to edit. I dropped the negative in my haste typing and posting and only got back to the board now. Ugh! I meant to say,"You are not used to Tonyese..."

I agree losing the ability to edit one's posts is a little frustrating since the window to do so is very small. however it's only limited to the general population, as it appears that mods can go in and fix their posts.
I can sort of see their point, because allowing the freedom of unlimited editing edit would mean that they would have to go back and read and monitor all posts all the time.

it doesn't make it any less frustrating when you realize that you've made a booboo that may change the meaning of what you originally intended or you see that you spelled something incorrectly ( or the talk to text function on your phone has a very different idea about what you said from what you actually said), and you want to fix it.
 
Have to say I totally disagree. SC is not close to UCONN in terms of talent. In Moriah, Stewie and KML, we have the 3 best players at their respective positions, and probably 3 of the top 10 players in the entire country. I'm not sure how you figure that SC has anything that comes close.

If you want to argue that Kia Stokes is untested as a player who can go 25-30 minutes per game, I won't disagree, but I'm of the opinion that she's one of the top 5, if not top 3, centers in WCBB this coming season.

UCONN's only question mark is at the 2G spot. I get that UCONN fans should be respectful of other teams, but the 2nd best team in the nation last year got obliterated by UCONN in the NC game by 20 points. I don't see SC as good as that ND team.
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I have to disagree with your assessment of the 2 spot being a question mark, there is no question; Saniya will make the leap just like MoJet did last year. She's a dynamic scorer, as well as a good(not great)shooter. She'll quiet a lot of critics this season and make it tough for Courtney and Gabby to see the floor as freshman.
 
True, but I don't expect too much from them that game. It will be their first venture against a big time school and @Uconn to boot.
Well again, some people's "very good" and our "very good" are different. They were a decent team. S16 was as far as they got. I think they will improve this year, but they have a long way to go to be able to play with UCONN.

But adding two top 10 players, one being the number 1 player, can make a big difference. I am not convinced that they are going to be a pushover for UCONN.
 
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Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.
 
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I have to disagree with your assessment of the 2 spot being a question mark, there is no question; Saniya will make the leap just like MoJet did last year. She's a dynamic scorer, as well as a good(not great)shooter. She'll quiet a lot of critics this season and make it tough for Courtney and Gabby to see the floor as freshman.

The starter at shooting guard is Saniya's job to lose. If she plays well enough, she keeps the job. A freshman would have to clearly (and early) outplay or outpractice her to start. It is also possible that Saniya may start but yield more minutes to an exceptional freshman.
 
I agree losing the ability to edit one's posts is a little frustrating since the window to do so is very small. however it's only limited to the general population, as it appears that mods can go in and fix their posts.
I can sort of see their point, because allowing the freedom of unlimited editing edit would mean that they would have to go back and read and monitor all posts all the time.

it doesn't make it any less frustrating when you realize that you've made a booboo that may change the meaning of what you originally intended or you see that you spelled something incorrectly ( or the talk to text function on your phone has a very different idea about what you said from what you actually said), and you want to fix it.

Nothing to it. Watch how easy it is for public figures to either claim (usually feigning outrage) that their remarks were "taken out of context" or call a press conference to "clarify [their] remarks.
 
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I have to disagree with your assessment of the 2 spot being a question mark, there is no question; Saniya will make the leap just like MoJet did last year. She's a dynamic scorer, as well as a good(not great)shooter. She'll quiet a lot of critics this season and make it tough for Courtney and Gabby to see the floor as freshman.
Based on the way Saniya finished the year, no way did she put a hammer down on earning the spot. I don't disagree she has an advantage, but I disagree that Saniya is the starting 2G set in stone as of right now. And I'd bet a ton of money that Geno would say the same thing.
 
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South Carolina has talent that compares favorably to UConn. South Carolina will be a tough match up and who knows who will win those games. One or two of the freshmen will have to step up. Although I do believe UConn will, there is no guarantee.
Really??????????? South Carolina has very talented ladies but comparing favorably. We have the player of the year, the potential number one pick in next years WNBA draft, probably the best point guard in the country and somehow South Carolina has more talent???
 
Based on the way Saniya finished the year, no way did she put a hammer down on earning the spot. I don't disagree she has an advantage, but I disagree that Saniya is the starting 2G set in stone as of right now. And I'd bet a ton of money that Geno would say the same thing.
I agree. Where did she prove herself to be a dynamic scorer. Well, if he was referring to high school, there has been a ton of high school players who have been dynamic scorers but playing against appreciably more athletic and talented players in college with size and quickness often has altered them to no more than mediocre. I'm hoping Saniya will be one of the exceptions but nothing she did last year really convinced me that she is. I'm hopeful that with confidence and improved strength she will emerge but only time will tell.
 
Won't they be able to show if they can play with UCONN when they travel to UCONN this season to play the Huskies?

Staley is a darn good coach or Geno would not have had her on the National Team staff. And she is getting a couple of top 10 players to add to a team that was very good last year. I wouldn't discount their chances at this point.
Didn't I hear about a key loss through injury that's affected South Carolina just recently? Staley is a darn good coach but isn't Geno the best in the game? South Carolina has a very talented team but doesn't UConn have three preseason All-American players on their roster along with more depth than they've had in years along with a couple of top ten freshmen coming in? Wasn't South Carolina out in the round of 16 this year while UConn went undefeated and beat everyone they played by a minimum of 10 points? Didn't they play more top 20 teams than did South Carolina, who had only one big signature win, Kentucky? The same Kentucky team that UConn wiped out? If I went and bought a Powerball ticket, isn't that a CHANCE I'd win tens of millions of dollars????? Never say never but come on. What is out there to suggest they would have any luck against this Huskie team, particularly at home?
 
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.
Wasn't UConn's recruiting class in the Top 3, maybe even number one last year? How could you dismiss their incoming class and pump up South Carolina's? South Carolina got a big bump because they had the number one kid in A'ja Wilson that surely beefed up their class standing but UConn had 3 girls that were in the top 12, at least through most of last year. From the way you're building them up, they should have easily been a final four team and yet, guess what, they weren't!!! They obviously have some flaws, be it defense or team chemistry or something else if they are that dominant inside and have an All-American two guard and yet never made it past the sweet sixteen, right?????
 
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.
Wasn't UConn's recruiting class in the Top 3, maybe even number one last year? How could you dismiss their incoming class and yet pump up South Carolina's? South Carolina's classs got a big bump because they had the number one kid in A'ja Wilson that surely beefed up their class standing but UConn had 3 girls that were in the top 12, at least through most of last year though I don't know where they're rated now since most recruiting sites continued to update. From the way you're building up the players from last years squad, they should have easily been a final four team and yet, guess what, they weren't!!! Last year there was UConn and Notre Dame and then everyone else. Even then, UConn showed their dominance in the National Championship game when they throttled Notre Dame. South Carolna obviously had some flaws, be it defense or team chemistry or something else if they were that dominant inside and had an All-American two guard and yet couldn't make it past the sweet sixteen, right?????
 
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I have never said South Carolina will beat UConn or that they are better then UConn. All I've said is that the talent level difference is not that much different and South Carolina could give UConn a great game. I have said UConn should beat South Carolina, unless UConn has poor shooting game. I have respect for Dawn and her South Carolina Gamecocks and believe they learned a lot last year, especially their loss in the Sweet 16.
 
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Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.
It would surprise me to no end if SC "dominated" the boards. They "might" win the battle by a small margin, but UCONN has lost the board numbers before and won easily. Not a big deal. AND, Stokes is a better rebounder than Dolson was (although Dolson was very good, especially her Jr/Sr years) and with Tuck getting more playing time (fingers crossed), our rebounding could well be better this year than last, when we had no problems.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416
And UCONN brings in the #4 class, not a huge difference there. AND you have to remember UCONN's recruits were probably rated a little lower than they should have been. Ekmark didn't play her SR year. Nurse wasn't rated by all services. Williams was hurt most of the year. It's possible they could be much better than their ratings would indicate. And with that they were still all ranked overall within the top 16. Wilson and White were ranked in the top 10, but Cuevas (#32) and Duckett (#57) and Cliney (>100) were not near that. AND, it's usually harder for Freshmen Posts to make an impact than it is for Freshmen guards/wings. I don't expect Wilson and White to have a "big" impact. You usually don't see the posts really making big impacts until Jr/Sr years, sometimes Soph years.

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.
I do think they will be better than last year. I expect them to on par with TN, Louisville, UNC level, quite possible a FF team. But that does not put them on the UCONN, ND level.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length.
Seriously? The UCONN Triumvirate is going to be enough to overcome everybody. Most likely talking 2 first team AA's and the Lieberman Award winner. KML and Stewart are going to be running 1/2 for NPOY honors.

Ye of so little faith.
 
Based on the way Saniya finished the year, no way did she put a hammer down on earning the spot. I don't disagree she has an advantage, but I disagree that Saniya is the starting 2G set in stone as of right now. And I'd bet a ton of money that Geno would say the same thing.
MoJet hadn't put the hammer down on the starting PG spot at this time a season ago and we all know how that turned out. A college players biggest improvement generally comes between the freshman and sophomore seasons. If not Saniya then whom?
 
It would surprise me to no end if SC "dominated" the boards. They "might" win the battle by a small margin, but UCONN has lost the board numbers before and won easily. Not a big deal. AND, Stokes is a better rebounder than Dolson was (although Dolson was very good, especially her Jr/Sr years) and with Tuck getting more playing time (fingers crossed), our rebounding could well be better this year than last, when we had no problems.


And UCONN brings in the #4 class, not a huge difference there. AND you have to remember UCONN's recruits were probably rated a little lower than they should have been. Ekmark didn't play her SR year. Nurse wasn't rated by all services. Williams was hurt most of the year. It's possible they could be much better than their ratings would indicate. And with that they were still all ranked overall within the top 16. Wilson and White were ranked in the top 10, but Cuevas (#32) and Duckett (#57) and Cliney (>100) were not near that. AND, it's usually harder for Freshmen Posts to make an impact than it is for Freshmen guards/wings. I don't expect Wilson and White to have a "big" impact. You usually don't see the posts really making big impacts until Jr/Sr years, sometimes Soph years.


I do think they will be better than last year. I expect them to on par with TN, Louisville, UNC level, quite possible a FF team. But that does not put them on the UCONN, ND level.


Seriously? The UCONN Triumvirate is going to be enough to overcome everybody. Most likely talking 2 first team AA's and the Lieberman Award winner. KML and Stewart are going to be running 1/2 for NPOY honors.

Ye of so little faith.
Won't this entire debate be settled on the court, where it should be, on Feb. 9th?
 
Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html
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Kiah had more blocks and way more boards despite playing fewer minutes. Kiah had a vastly better a/to ratio and much better fg and ft%. Yes ibiam scored 148 more points but took 123 more shots, which for a post isn't especially efficient. statistically Kiah is clearly superior.
 
Well, you appear to be taking a wee bit of a thumping on this, dear one through no fault of your own. Take heart my friend for we defend our fellow boneyarders regardless of fame or flaw, often with tongue in cheek and in teasing manner. Each poster has their unique manner and is appreciated as one of the ingredients that make up the stew that is the Boneyard.

Tampering with any of the ingredients is usually met in this way.

Now you find yourself as one of us and I hope that you will continue to post. You did after all give Tony a couple of A+s for his best attributes. And the rest....eh, we just move on to the next entry.

Thank you, My Lady. I meant no disrespect. As long ago advised when teaching youngsters, always avoid sarcasm. It's misunderstood and poorly appreciated. I Forgot my lesson.
Farewell cruel world.
 
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I have to disagree with your assessment of the 2 spot being a question mark, there is no question; Saniya will make the leap just like MoJet did last year. She's a dynamic scorer, as well as a good(not great)shooter. She'll quiet a lot of critics this season and make it tough for Courtney and Gabby to see the floor as freshman.

Chong showed nothing down the stretch last year that would lead one to believe that she is ready and poised for a drastic change in her game. Just because she is now a sophomore doesn't mean that her game is going to change all of a sudden. Jefferson showed signs throughout the 2nd half of her freshman and especially down the stretch that showed that she was starting to come into her own. I have seen none of that from Chong yet. I am willing to bet that by the end of the year that both Williams(if healthy) and Ekmark will both see more playing time than Chong.
 
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