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otp85 said:
It's not so much washing my hands of him; just that if he doesn't want to be here then fine, bring in a guy who does.
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OK, but we're going off rumors still. People will change course quick if this all turns out to be nothing.
 
I think a good rule of thumb with recruiting is never to get attached to these guys before they make it to Storrs.

The last time I was at all emotional about recruiting was before the 2010-11 season, when UConn missed out on the supposed "big four" guards they were after. Obviously, things turned out just fine.
 
nomar said:
This, combined with the now-deleted thread about what Ricky Moore said, means to me we're past the rumor stage.

Curious about the prior injury to a Turtle people are discussing. First I've heard of it.
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What did Ricky say?
 
CTBasketball said:
Apparently "no longer bound to UConn" in Georgia means "verbally committed to UConn."

Silly how the education system changes when you go south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
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I really didn't follow this post. The article discussed how he did or was going to decommit.
 
Good, let him decommit and then give us Stone+Newman and Derrick Jones
 
Good, let him decommit and then give us Stone+Newman and Derrick Jones
 
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Robertelamin said:
What did Ricky say?
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It was hearsay. Which is why the thread got deleted. Doubt Ricky wanted it public. That said, it wasn't anything huge anyway. Just pay attention to the rumors on the web.
 
If Turtle de-commits and we strike it rich with Newman, Brunson, Briscoe, or someone in that echelon, fantastic.

If Turtle de-commits, we whiff on Plan A, B, and C, and end up with the 2015 equivalent of Jamaal Trice, not so good.

If Ollie's really as hot a commodity on the recruiting trail as we've been hearing (and as was evidenced by the Adams commitment), it's more likely to be the former (good) outcome.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
If Turtle de-commits and we strike it rich with Newman, Brunson, Briscoe, or someone in that echelon, fantastic.

If Turtle de-commits, we whiff on Plan A, B, and C, and end up with the 2015 equivalent of Jamaal Trice, not so good.

If Ollie's really as hot a commodity on the recruiting trail as we've been hearing (and as was evidenced by the Adams commitment), it's more likely to be the former (good) outcome.
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He already landed Jalen Adams. Given the way Jackson sank in the rankings due to his play recently, I'm not sure he was a better "plan" than kids we already have (Samuel, Cassell, Adams, Purvis)... No offense to Jackson, but maybe he felt UCONN was recruiting over him and he didn't like what he saw on the horizon...
 
good, should help us land another top 50 guard for 15 or 16 who is proven against elite competition.
 
Chief00 said:
Agree KO has a lot going for him and as you know I pushed for him from day 1. Just keep in mind recruiting has diverse outcomes; guys select a school for many different reasons. UConn has a great deal going for it but other schools also appeal to recruits for various reasons.
I have noticed that many new posters to this board point of reference is 2 National Championships in 4 years and understandably that's the prism you view the World through. I remember an informal scrimmage the spring before Calhoun's first season. They had so few players another guy and myself participated. Quite frankly, with a few notable exceptions the talent did not jump out at you - many of the guys you could defend pretty good.
I know it's popular now by some posters to belittle Calhoun's accomplishments and recruiting but quite frankly if more of you understood where he started from, you would appreciate him a little more. KO started with all the challenges that have been well chronicled but so much more was in place than when Calhoun started.
Having said that, KO has obviously done an A+ job and deserves every cent he has made. I expected a great deal from him and he exceeded that.
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I love this. You were Ollie's biggest supporter and people here belittle Coach Calhoun. What color is the sky in your world?
 
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Actually there was a media narrative how KO had to clean up JCs mess. In fact, there were things he did need to clean-up but unless you were there in 1986 you just wouldn't fully appreciate what JC did.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
If Turtle de-commits and we strike it rich with Newman, Brunson, Briscoe, or someone in that echelon, fantastic.

If Turtle de-commits, we whiff on Plan A, B, and C, and end up with the 2015 equivalent of Jamaal Trice, not so good.

If Ollie's really as hot a commodity on the recruiting trail as we've been hearing (and as was evidenced by the Adams commitment), it's more likely to be the former (good) outcome.
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By all accounts Adams has always wanted to play for Uconn, according to interviews I have read. While the coach still has to recruit and get the kid to believe in what he's selling, once Uconn came calling he knew where he wanted to be.
 
The only thing I am skeptical is not hearing from other sources about this decommit. Usually Kline or Zagoria are on top of this. But I am fine with Jackson leaving his ranking has plummeted as of late.
 
There's no such thing as a can't-miss player. Whether we're better off with Plan A or Plan C will really only be clear in retrospect. Unless you think, say, Neils Giffey was our Plan A.
 
It's NAUSEATING to hear posters denigrate our location as some sort of huge disadvantage for our coaches. We have heard this shit for years from Pitino and Bozohiem. It's like we never played BB before 1986. Remember what Al Davis said---- just win baby!!!! Diaco doesn't seem to think our location and academics are a disadvantage.:):):):):)
 
Husky1964 said:
It's NAUSEATING to hear posters denigrate our location as some sort of huge disadvantage for our coaches. We have heard this for years from Pitino and Bozohiem. It's like we never played BB before 1986. Remember what Al Davis said---- just win baby!!!! Diaco doesn't seem to think our location and academics are a disadvantage.:):):):):)
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We got Nadav in 1989 after he looked at St. John's first. He got to Storrs and said "now dees is what a college should look like" (source: Dare To Dream by Calhoun, Jim)

And that was when the buildings were falling down.
 
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Husky1964 said:
It's NAUSEATING to hear posters denigrate our location as some sort of huge disadvantage for our coaches. We have heard this for years from Pitino and Bozohiem. It's like we never played BB before 1986. Remember what Al Davis said---- just win baby!!!! Diaco doesn't seem to think our location and academics are a disadvantage.:):):):):)
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Our location is a HUGE advantage. It's an easy drive from two metropolises allowing players families to watch games in person. Just look at our great players from NY and Boston over the years. The CT landscape has been good for us. Many of our big city recruits have loved the CT countryside so much that they've made homes there, including one very important one, KO. Acting like Storrs is the middle of nowhere is ridiculous, it's 20 minutes from plenty of stuff, 1.25 hours from one of the greatest American cities and 2.5 hours from the center of the universe.
 
UConNick said:
I will definitely follow Turtle and I have no problem rooting for him. A couple years ago, ESPN called said he had the potential to be the most complete guard in 2015; he was a top 15 prospect, and called the best guard out of Georgia in a decade. Then that injury happened, and it seems to have robbed the world of what would have been an amazing basketball player with NBA star potential. I have deep sympathies for Turtle, and I do think that KO would have been able to refind that potential. I hope we can find out, but that looks very bleak right now.
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Too bad. So you're saying Turtle is only a shell of his former self?
 
uconNYC said:
Both Ali and Jackson committed before the NC. Just speculating here, but I think KO's recruiting strategy changed after the tournament thus all the recent commits/decommits. In the end it's going to work out for everyone.
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Calhoun first year the two best players he inherited from Perno were ineligible.
They returned the following year. One of those players played many years in the NBA. Also he inherited Tate George.,Jeff King,,Gary Besselink,Steve Pikell and spider Usery .these teams had some talent . If you add Cliff ,and Phil to those roll players Calhoun's first team would have won a lot more games. ESPN would have said "he winning with Perno's players."
 
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I'm all for whoever ends up at UCONN whether it is a package deal or a few players who want to be at UCONN and are not afraid of competition
 
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