OT: More gripes about WCBB referees

[Rowdy831]

It looked to me like the officials came out and got revenge for people complaining about them not calling anything the other night. In this game it wasn't only the number of calls but who they were on. Then to put a cherry on top they have the best player in the game a T for rolling the ball out of bounds.

The person who called that T should be banned from calling another FF game. This whole crew needs to learn that people didn't tune in to watch them and when they take the stars out of their games it hurts the game itself. LSU played a near flawless game but this game will be remembered for the way the officiating didn't let them play.

 

[Classof87]

The reffing in the women‘s game has never been great, but their performance in the NatChamp game was absolute proof that changes are needed. But… the NCAA will need to have their nose rubbed in it before they wake up to this fact.

 

[Rowdy831]

A hugely important showcase for woman's BB was completely ruined by the refs...

Geno alluded to this earlier...

Serious corrections required

They did the same thing to UCONN in the OSU game. OSU outplayed UCONN but the calls on AE really changed the complexion of that game and Iowa not having their two best players on the court did the same to them today.

 

[Pharos]

Lot to learn when you're that young. Pride goeth before a fall. Chastening will come. How anyone responds to that is the key to maturity.

 

[Derucky]

My enjoyment of the LSU/Iowa game absolutely diminished by the referees’ interference with the action.

I wonder what might be the impact on the quality of officiating if the referees were required to do post game pressers as are the coaches?

And wouldn’t it be nice if NCAA officials who pick the officiating crews were interviewed about the state of affairs?

I agree 100% - they would never do that because they know the refs would have no good answers and would lose even more credibility. But it's not like there would be a problem getting refs if they were forced to attend presses. People will always show up if there's money involved.

 

[Centerstream]

I didn't watch the game but looking at the box score, I have this question - has any NC Runner-up ever had 2 starters foul out and a 3rd player with 4?
I did see the video of Caitlin getting the T and was kinda shocked that #50 was not shocked by it. However, the video didn't show if the ball was in the direction of a ref or in an opposite direction.

 

[Rowdy831]

Iowa lost because they couldn't get a defensive stop if Lisa Bluder's life depended on it. That said, the game clearly was too big for that trio of officials. The game needs and deserves better.

If they are the best three then the game is in trouble. If they aren't the three best then shame on NCAAW for using something other than skill to determine who calls the FF games. This was the first year I can recall several games that were severely impacted by officiating and that is a shame.

 

[Derucky]

Tell me the refs are not afraid of Kim. I thought in that first quarter all the calls seemed to be against Iowa and when one went against LSU Kim was out of her mind about it.

No doubt - and afraid of her players - they called the stupid tech on Caitlin because that tiny show of frustration reminded the ref what a bad (and partial) job she was doing.

 

[bovwa10]

Why wasn’t Dee Kanter one of the refs? I thought she was usually the go-to for women’s games.

 

[Derucky]

They don't know what rampant means.

If these are the best refs they have, then complete and sweeping changes are needed IMMEDIATELY (if they want WCBB to succeed.)

 

[Pharos]

Institutions and our trust in them is what holds us together. To trust them they need to be trustworthy. I've posted my curiosity before. What institution governs the officiating of WCBB? Will there be a published review of the officials' performance? Where will it come from? Will the review criteria be transparently known? If not, why not?

An example of the kind of situation where officiating could be standardized is the high elbow contact as shooters or rebounders spin with the ball held high. a. Should it be allowed? b. if allowed with what conditions? Turning is ok, unless an elbow (or shoulder) connects with the face of an opponent. c. Conversely, body-to-body defending - should that be allowed? If you body up, and the opponent clocks you in the face with an elbow or shoulder 1) if the ballholders movement is entirely vertical, it's the defender's problem, but 2) if the ballholder pushes into the defender, it's an offensive foul.

Ok that's me in 10 seconds of thinking. Hasn't somebody done this and written it down clearly; so that everybody can know it? If it has been made clear and objective, it shouldn't look so random and subjective.

 

[fomalhaut]

I didn't watch the game but looking at the box score, I have this question - has any NC Runner-up ever had 2 starters foul out and a 3rd player with 4?
I did see the video of Caitlin getting the T and was kinda shocked that #50 was not shocked by it. However, the video didn't show if the ball was in the direction of a ref or in an opposite direction.

It's clearly a delay of game, but any competent ref would have given her a warning.

 

[Pharos]

This is how Reese to Clark. You judge this,

My kid or grandkid does that... what happens next would be a lifelong memory. I don't mean to sound like a harsh parent. But somethings need to be made very clear.

 

[Kaizen]

A close up look of Reese to Clark. Just speechless ...

 

[Matthew1589]

Actions like that of Angel Reese show her true character, and the officiating letting Kim be on the court, grabbing the ref (automatic T not called) probably hurt the game of WBB on the biggest stage. I watched a lot of WBB games this year not just my favorite team, but I don't see myself doing so after this.

 

[Gusaford]

A close up look of Reese to Clark. Just speechless ...

I don't know how to tell Reese, but her team played its best ball when she was on the bench in the second.

 

[Centerstream]

Why wasn’t Dee Kanter one of the refs? I thought she was usually the go-to for women’s games.

Personally I was glad that she missed this game...just my opinion.

 

[f1f1ferrari]

I totally agree that the officiating was terrible, but it was terrible against both teams. Iowa lost because they rely too much on Clark, the same as Uconn relied too much on Paige two years ago.

 

[Stinger92860]

Angel Reese's taunting of Caitlin Clark toward the end of the game, waving her ring finger in Caitlin's face, was really classless.

I’m not a fan of this behavior, but apparently Clark was not shy about talking a bit during the tournament. Can’t support either girl in this case. That said, I love the Larry Bird trashing talking stories.

Hated the refs and the complete lack of credible defense by Iowa.

 

[Centerstream]

A close up look of Reese to Clark. Just speechless ...

Did Reese win MOP? IMO Caitlin should have won even if Iowa lost.

 

[UConnCat]

Why wasn’t Dee Kanter one of the refs? I thought she was usually the go-to for women’s games.

She did Iowa/SC on Friday night. Officials don't do a semi-final game and the championship game.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Did Reese win MOP? IMO Caitlin should have won even if Iowa lost.

I would say Morris

 

[NoSpamHere]

37 fouls in 40 minutes in a championship game is absolutely insane.

 

[my2cents]

The T on Clark was a terrible call.
Reese is a classless individual.
The women's college game will never be taken seriously if this the type of officiating you get. They need to understand which player is causing the contact, stop the over the backs, the arm is not part of the ball and two players need to be holding the ball for a jump ball.

 

[Kaizen]

Did Reese win MOP? IMO Caitlin should have won even if Iowa lost.

I think she dose win the MOP but at a very low profile.

Angel Reese named Most Outstanding Player of 2023 NCAA Women’s Championship

The LSU Tigers thumped the Iowa Hawkeyes 102-85 in the 2023 national championship game, and Tigers forward Angel Reese was named the Most Outstanding

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