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Mr. Conehead said:
As the Charlotte thread went-off the rails a bit, posting this hear. The owner of the Panthers - Tepper, the Mayor of Charlotte and MLS's Garber had a press conference scheduled for this Tuesday, the 18th, for a major announcement.


I actually like Charlotte and think its turning into a great city; but, I don't like how Tepper is basically buying and MLS franchise instead of earning it. In addition, his interet in MLS is at least driven by a 'need' (he's worth $2.3 Billion) to get more publci money to renovate his NFL football stadium, which seemd to have worked as Charlotte has offered $100 Million. The Charlotte metro area does not have the legacy, grassroots support of soccer like Raleigh/Durham, which is had a professional soccer team (NC Railhawks/North Carolina FC) since 2006 and averages 4,500 fans per game. Charlotte added a USL team in 2014 (Charlotte Independence) and averages 1,600 per game. In addition, its crazy to think that this new franchise over the long-term will be able to validate playing in a NFL design stadium of 75K in terms of ticket sales AND environment within in a soccer culture that is in its infancy in a metro area that is 2/3 and less than 1/2smaller than the two 2 franchises that Tepper keep comparing to in Seattle and Atlanta (Charlotte #23 in the US with 2.569 Million, Seattle #15 with 3.939 Million and Atlanta (#9 with 5.950 Million).

As I have said before, if these jealous owners (Tepper sees Blank at Atlanta as his rival), make them earn it. Move to a European model where a new owner has to buy a lower tier team (USL) and invest in the team's players and facilities to earn their way-up to the big league via promotion. It also forces existing owners to continue to invest in their MLS team unless that want to be relegated down. That competition results in better teams, a better players, and a better experience for fans.
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I am sort of glad NC Fc is getting . They shouldn‘t have sold out to the USL and MLS. Same goes for Ottawa which was another USL team that shuttered probably forever this winter.
 
ZooCougar said:
I think it’s funny that only 3-4 teams are turning a profit.

the study also recommended they shut down academies.
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I know this can be too political a statement for this board, but I find the professional consulting class so underwhelming in terms of quality, that it doesn't surprise me their advice is "tell 'em it's great," since they wouldn't know excellence or quality themselves. Every org, forprofit or nonprofit, seems to be infiltrated by these know-nothings and their advice. A nation of finks and fakes.
 
Imagine selling US and Canadian media, Madison Avenue, etc on relegation of teams in/near the City, Chicago, LA, Houston, Bay Area, etc to low populated, backwater cities, and slow or negative growth locations. Sorrycuse, Sioux City, Saskatoon ... suhhhhh-weeeeet!
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Imagine selling US and Canadian media, Madison Avenue, etc on relegation of teams in/near the City, Chicago, LA, Houston, Bay Area, etc to low populated, backwater cities, and slow or negative growth locations. Sorrycuse, Sioux City, Saskatoon ... suhhhhh-weeeeet!
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That's what will happen after the massive implosion. Soccer will become a local sport!
 
Waquoit said:
That's what will happen after the massive implosion. Soccer will become a local sport!
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Dont see professional soccer in the US transitioning to a local nor even an entirely regional sport, but can envision a reconstituted, downsized, or newly organized top division of sorts with fewer franchises. Time will tell
 
Well, it's official. Now, Charlotte just needs to put a logo, kit, and team together while modifying Bank of America stadium to host soccer events. I hope for Charlotte's sake, it works out.

www.espn.com

Charlotte gets MLS' 30th franchise for record $325 million

Major League Soccer on Tuesday made it official that Charlotte will be the home of the league's 30th and likely last franchise.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Raleigh's MLS hopes also end with this move, so I wonder what they will do with their proposed downtown soccer stadium?

abc11.com

$1.9B investment could bring soccer stadium, hotels, shopping to downtown Raleigh

It's called "Downtown South," an entertainment district on 55 acres at downtown Raleigh's southern edge and is expected to host men's and women's pro soccer as well as concerts and other events.
abc11.com abc11.com

The only real shock was Garber saying "This is likely the last expansion team in Major League Soccer." As I don't believe it for a minute, especially with additional potnetial billionaire owners waiting in the wings in Phoenix and Las Vegas, especially. Maybe MLS will take a pause and fix some key internal issues, such as the MLS pay-scale, stadium issues in Boston, etc.
 
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ZooCougar said:
How does this team still exist?
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How fitting for the franchise who drafted the biggest jerk to ever wear aUConn soccer uniform - Ryan Cordeiro
 
kibblesnbits said:
Other than the fact that it has poor access, little parking and is surrounded by brownfields that make the Colt Park area seem gentrified by comparison, Red Bull Arena is great. I don't know if they still do because the Red Bulls don't have too many capacity crowds, but when it first opened I saw a sign in a Newark parking garage that said it was a Red Bulls lot and where to wait for the shuttle. Who wants to take a shuttle from Newark to go to a match?

That should give you an idea of the problem NYFC and the Revs face. The Red Bulls looked for years and a Harrison, NJ brownfield was the best location they could find. You can expect to see Gillette and Yankee stadiums on the MLS schedule for the foreseeable future.

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The fan base for NYFC and the Red Bulls are like night and day. The Red Bull organization has regressed
Kraft aside, the Revs have had a good deal of success
While I detest the crap hole city, Philly has a great side, a gvery good coach in Curtin and one heck of a development system
 
gtcam said:
The fan base for NYFC and the Red Bulls are like night and day. The Red Bull organization has regressed
Kraft aside, the Revs have had a good deal of success
While I detest the crap hole city, Philly has a great side, a gvery good coach in Curtin and one heck of a development system
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NYCFC was dying until they caught lightning in a bottle and won the championship last year. From the telecasts it appears that this year they have drawn signficantly better. I went to a game in late July or early August of 2021 where they beat Orlando before a crowd that couldn't have been more than 5,000. We were sitting about 10 rows up between midfield and the top of the box and there couldn't have been more than a few dozen in our section. It was pathetic.
 
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kibblesnbits said:
NYCFC was dying until they caught lightning in a bottle and won the championship last year. From the telecasts it appears that this year they have drawn signficantly better. I went to a game in late July or early August of 2021 where they beat Orlando before a crowd that couldn't have been more than 5,000. We were sitting about 10 rows up between midfield and the top of the box and there couldn't have been more than a few dozen in our section. It was pathetic.
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NYFC vs Orlando in 2021 - I would expect that size crowd - at least you had premier seating
But as I said, presently, NYFC vs RedBulls is day vs night
 
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