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At times we made beating the press look easy other times it looked like our boys had mittens on.
 
7774 said:
Go calculate the standard deviation of points, rebounds, assists, etc. for Facey and Boatright. Facey is not more consistent. , Facey had one game where he scored 5X as many points as he scored in another game.

It's not that you're arguing your point poorly, it's that your point has no connection to reality whatsoever.
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By his logic, a guy who gets 0 points per game, every game, is the most consistent player on the team. There's no baseline.

And lets not get into sample size.
 
Pudge said:
I would say that Adams is our #1 guy when Boatright is gone down 195; but, we can go find the 100-200 level guy in rankings that will be perfect for what we need. Maybe, he develops into a top shooter gutsy guy (like Bazz) or has the jets/defense (like Boat). All good for us going forward.
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Oh, God no.

I realize that most people seem to enjoy whistling past the graveyard regarding our recruiting, but the last thing we need to is start stretching further with our recruiting.
 
Such silliness. Right now UConn is the Boat Show and the seven projects. Come March. Things will be different. Each project has has his moments but Boat is the clue here. Boat gets hurt and things will get ugly really fast. And next season Adams will have his work cut out for him.
 
August_West said:
That's what scares me most about next year. Jalen Adams and then what? One Ball handler UConn teams aren't traditionally the elite ones. Our main ballhander is going to be a Freshman? Extra scary. If Marcus Williams had AJ in 2006 there is no George Mason..... If El Amin had someone other than Freshmen Tony Robertson and Marcus Cox, in 2000 who both spit the bit in that Tennessee tournament game when El Amin was hurt. Taliek was such a whipping boy around here because he was asked to do too much too early in his career.

El Amin had Ricky
AJ had Kemba
Kemba had Bazz
Bazz had Boat

Jalen (a frosh) has who? Nobody on this current squad. I guess Samuel by default?
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I think you're jumping the gun. It's too early to start projecting too far forward this season, forget next year. Samuel, Cassell, Hamilton, and Purvis struggling for one game against a press does not mean they're going to be bad ball-handlers for the rest of their careers.
 
We looked pretty awful against the press last year too and March still ended up being a solid month.
 
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We were better against the press in the second half. Still had eight turnovers, but two were offensive fouls, one was Brimah kicking it out after an offensive board, and one was Boat grabbing a defensive board and losing it almost immediately. The worst moment was Purvis floating a cross court pass with a "Steal Me" sign stapled to it.

If you're looking for things to feel positive about - we've had first half issues/breakdowns (Dayton getting to the rim, press break) that we've more or less fixed. That shows both that KO and staff are good at fixing things and the team is showing they can execute the adjustments. Now we just have to get better at less breakdowns, so we just need a band aid or two at the half and not a tourniquet.
 
aceboon said:
2 juniors, 2 sophs who started every game last year, and a freshman. If you're going to go down the path of "UK isn't that experienced", I'm not really sure what you're point is. When you're roster is littered with top 20 players(and several top 5 players), you get less of a pass for your lack of experience. Its more ready made and instant impact talent.
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Maybe we should get some of that instant impact talent. Especially the kind that sticks around for 2 or 3 years. Escalator anyone?
 
PAHusky said:
Boatright has been our best player, Facey our most consistent.
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You can be consistently good and you can be consistently bad - it just means doing the same thing over and over, so by that measure our most consistent player is either Nolan or TSam.
 
intlzncster said:
I think you're underselling Boat. Boat appeared drained to me. Likely because he's running this team without any compliment himself. Bazz had Boat; Boat doesn't have that.

And Bazz wasn't very good against the press either last year.
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Boatright is very, very good. I am thrilled he is a Husky. He isn't in the category that Kemba was as a Junior or Bazz was last year, where they could just take over a game and be unstoppable. He's just not. If he tries to play as if he is, he'll end up hurting the team. As for complimentary players, this team has more weapons, and is deeper than last year. They all stunk against WVU, but Purvis was averaging 14 coming in, and Hamilton has shown great offensive ability. Brimah is better, Facey is better, Cassell needs to get a role he understands, but has ability.
 
Fishy said:
9) Kentan Facey. Four games in....25.0 minutes per game, .500 FG%, six points, seven rebounds. Whatever we thought we might get out of Nolan and Lubin, we're getting it from Facey. He's becoming a very interesting player.
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Absolutely out of character for a young UConn big. Actuall athletic and smooth around the basket. Looks under control and capable. Like he won't miss layups, throw up airballs, chip the paint on the rim or crack the backboard with some wild-ass shot.

And very quick off the floor for rebounds. Really good stuff
 
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Well, here's one good thought... As badly as UConn played - and let's be honest, they stunk - WVU made a lot of shots. And I don't mean layups and open threes, I mean contested jumpers. In a lot of cases, UConn played solid defense and WVU still scored. When the announcers were talking about that "elbow jumper" being open all game, I was like "wow, great for WVU. The moving, pull up 17' jump shot from the elbow could be the worst shot in all of basketball. Take all of them you like". And they did. And made them. And Dan Hamilton had 8 turnovers. Enough to account for the margin of victory single handedly.
They'll be fine
 
I think about 6 of Hamilton's turnovers were the result of his nasty habit of leaving his feet to pass as soon as he picks up his dribble - often before he even knows who he's going to pass to.

Seems like something that should be an easy fix. And it's the only part of his game that reminds you that he's a freshman. His ball handling, midrange game, and rebounding are even better than I imagined and despite Jeff Goodman's analysis of his AAU days, he hardly ever takes a bad shot.
 
Somebody improving their shot has to be proven to me; doesn't happen much in a significant fashion.
 
Chief00 said:
Somebody improving their shot has to be proven to me; doesn't happen much in a significant fashion.
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It won't happen within a season, but certainly can happen over a career. See Giffey, Neils (33.7% over first 3 years, 48% senior season) and Daniels, DeAndre (28% to 41%). Even Shabazz went from 32 to 35 to 39 to 40% over four years.
 
Excalibur said:
It won't happen within a season, but certainly can happen over a career. See Giffey, Neils (33.7% over first 3 years, 48% senior season) and Daniels, DeAndre (28% to 41%). Even Shabazz went from 32 to 35 to 39 to 40% over four years.
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Agree it can be demonstrated if a guy is really committed to practice by himself in the gym. Ben Gordan did it; another UConn guard did not do that prep.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Boatright is very, very good. I am thrilled he is a Husky. He isn't in the category that Kemba was as a Junior or Bazz was last year, where they could just take over a game and be unstoppable. He's just not. If he tries to play as if he is, he'll end up hurting the team. As for complimentary players, this team has more weapons, and is deeper than last year. They all stunk against WVU, but Purvis was averaging 14 coming in, and Hamilton has shown great offensive ability. Brimah is better, Facey is better, Cassell needs to get a role he understands, but has ability.
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I wasn't saying he was Kemba or Bazz, simply that he doesn't haven't a stud PG playing along side him. UCONN has only 1 real PG. That's significant pressure on Boat. Imagine if Kemba didn't have Bazz? That puts a lot more pressure on the player (has to do more, can't play off ball, etc).
 
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Chief00 said:
Agree it can be demonstrated if a guy is really committed to practice by himself in the gym. Ben Gordan did it; another UConn guard did not do that prep.
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And some people just don't improve. Shaq shot a bazillion free throws during his time, and still couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. It's different for everyone.
 
Excalibur said:
It won't happen within a season, but certainly can happen over a career. See Giffey, Neils (33.7% over first 3 years, 48% senior season) and Daniels, DeAndre (28% to 41%). Even Shabazz went from 32 to 35 to 39 to 40% over four years.
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It can sometimes happen within a season once confidence is gained - particularly with freshmen when the game slows down a little for them and they get used to the big crowds and big arenas. Lamb is a good example. Mediocre shooter early on, but light's out at the end.

Purvis and Cassell aren't freshmen, but both are in an adjustment phase, so we can hold out some hope they'll be a little better in March than they are now. They won't transform into Ray Allen, but they could be guys who could make you pay more consistently if you leave them open.
 
Very interesting thoughts by a lot of posters. Too many to respond to. Also, a ton to take away from that game, so all I'll say is this: It's a learning experience game. This team doesn't have the set roles this early in the season that some of our better teams had. Just remember that. EVERY guy is in some way a new role. It takes time for teams to understand individual roles, rotations, who can do what, when certain guys should do more or do less, etc. Essentially a long-winded way of saying they are early on and finding their roles and responsibilities and contributions. Leaders like Bazz and Kemba and other guys knowing and filling their roles properly I not an every year thing, sometimes it takes time to figure that out.
 
Boatright is a very good and talented basketball player. Although, I think Boatright needs to work on his body language if he expects to be a leader of this team. I understand this was a frustrating and physical game, but his body language isn't going to help his team. He did have some supportive body language by clapping after big plays, but flailing his arms and shrugging his shoulders after missing free throws is going to bring the energy down. He's definitely an emotional player that fuels the fire on the court, but some players may not benefit from it. He needs to learn how to control his emotions in a way that could help him, but not affect his teammates.
 
HungryHuskies said:
Boatright is a very good and talented basketball player. Although, I think Boatright needs to work on his body language if he expects to be a leader of this team. I understand this was a frustrating and physical game, but his body language isn't going to help his team. He did have some supportive body language by clapping after big plays, but flailing his arms and shrugging his shoulders after missing free throws is going to bring the energy down. He's definitely an emotional player that fuels the fire on the court, but some players may not benefit from it. He needs to learn how to control his emotions in a way that could help him, but not affect his teammates.
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Ugh.
 
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Fishy said:
Oh, God no.

I realize that most people seem to enjoy whistling past the graveyard regarding our recruiting, but the last thing we need to is start stretching further with our recruiting.
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On that earlier note ...can someone run a regression analysis & standard deviation on people hitting Like on different posters.
 
I think that there may be mojo somewhere associated with the number 4, not sure though yet
 
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PAHusky said:
Facey has been our most consistent player all year. No one was talking about him this summer, but he's been everything we could ask for and more at the 4. Chap saying Lubin would have made any sort of difference is laughable; Lubin looks like he could be a good contributor down the line but CofC and Dayton rattled him, he would have been a mess last night. To me, the most dissappointing players so far are TSam and, to a lesser extent, Brimah. To me, TSam really hasn't brought much to the table beyond what he did last year, and he's been really error prone. His defenders know that he can't shoot - I don't think he's made a three and he badly bricked a few jumpers yesterday - and when he gets in the lane he seems indecisive compared to last season. His defense has been solid, but for a pg who can't shoot he doesn't seem to be super comfortable running the offense when Boat gets a blow, which is worrying. I'm sure he'll figure it out, but here's hoping that happens sooner rather than later. As far as Brimah, he's a complete beast on the defensive end and even cut back on the fouls last night, but his rebounding for a guy that size is borderline atrocious. I think our full offensive potential depends a lot on us running, and when our guards and wings are forced to do the rebounding we start the break infinitely slower.
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Quite frankly, I did mention Facey throughout the summer months because I was getting such good reports on how hard he was working along with TSam and Brimah.
 
Boat is a very good player who can lead this team far, but he needs a someone to step up like he did last year. I am not sure who that will be, but without that UCONN is a 20-25 team at best.
 
The press didn't kill us against WVU, outside shooting did. 19 TO's is not terrible against a good pressing team, and about 7 of those TO's were not from the press but from out of control drives to the rim. If defenses can pack it in against us, it will be hard to beat good teams.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The press didn't kill us against WVU, outside shooting did. 19 TO's is not terrible against a good pressing team, and about 7 of those TO's were not from the press but from out of control drives to the rim. If defenses can pack it in against us, it will be hard to beat good teams.
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their press created a large number of TO's, which led to a lot of easy baskets for WVU.
 
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