Miller to Texas

[RuffRuff]

These days, I do thin

There's honestly only a few jobs in the entire country that aren't "stepping stones"...it all depends on what the coach is looking for. I don't think you need to go much farther than looking at Buzz Williams's career as evidence of how fluid the coaching carousel is, even in the power conferences.

Or you can follow Rick Pitino's career and realize no job is a final destination.

Having visited Austin this last Uconn road game, I would put the Texas job up there. Between living in Austin, the Mooney Center/facilities, NIL and being able to live in a great town, it's up there. A lot of sour grapes around Miller leaving Xavier for the second time, but if you were lucky enough to be offered the UT job, you'd take it too.

 

[FearThePups]

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My comment was one of incredulity hearing that Sean Miller was leaving Xavier before he had left the arena. I understand fans criticize players for this type of behavior, but the optics are horrible when a coach does.

 

[FearThePups]

These days, I do thin

Or you can follow Rick Pitino's career and realize no job is a final destination.

Having visited Austin this last Uconn road game, I would put the Texas job up there. Between living in Austin, the Mooney Center/facilities, NIL and being able to live in a great town, it's up there. A lot of sour grapes around Miller leaving Xavier for the second time, but if you were lucky enough to be offered the UT job, you'd take it too.

My issue with Miller is not that he left Xavier but his timing as to the announcement.

 

[auror]

There's honestly only a few jobs in the entire country that aren't "stepping stones"...it all depends on what the coach is looking for. I don't think you need to go much farther than looking at Buzz Williams's career as evidence of how fluid the coaching carousel is, even in the power conferences.

Yeah, each coach has their own individual "destination" job list. There's a few blue bloods on most lists, but then for example Georgetown was a destination for Ed Cooley because of his connection with Big Pat and what that program represents to black coaches. I'm not sure Ben McCollum would see the job the same way, but he does highly value Iowa.

Even Kansas was a stepping stone for Roy Williams.

 

[superjohn]

Yeah, each coach has their own individual "destination" job list. There's a few blue bloods on most lists, but then for example Georgetown was a destination for Ed Cooley because of his connection with Big Pat and what that program represents to black coaches. I'm not sure Ben McCollum would see the job the same way, but he does highly value Iowa.

Even Kansas was a stepping stone for Roy Williams.

His connection with Big John.

 

[Inyatkin]

Personal preferences are one thing. Roy Williams wanted North Carolina, but that doesn't mean Kansas isn't a job you could stay at forever.

The definition of destination job is one that will give you the resources you need to stay competitive. That's typically going to be a state school, which in our conference means UConn only.

That doesn't mean we're doomed, and as others have said, some variation of "things are changing fast!" has been spoken around here for decades at this point.

I do worry about where we fit in the college sports landscape. But we've figured it out to this point, and I think we will find a path forward.

 

[champs99and04]

Certainly if Mick Cronin leaves UCLA for Villanova or Xavier it blows a hole in my theory.

I do think Duke is one of one, and shouldn't be used to compare to other schools

Duke is certainly one of one in the sense that it's capitalized on its differences in a way that no one else has. And you're right that a lot of those things probably aren't replicable for other schools.

But St. John's and Georgetown were at one time among the biggest brands in college basketball, and I do still think there's a path for them to return to that. What I will grant you is that, in terms of depth of brand power, the drop-off is much greater in the Big East than it is in the Big 10 or SEC. Pick pretty much any random school in those leagues and I think they'd draw big ratings in a championship game simply from being public state schools. Xavier, Creighton, Butler, even Villanova don't draw in the same way, I don't think.

 

[dennismenace]

Paying the players tons of money somehow makes up for not getting to play "Big Man on Campus." Strange.

Better than that. Now they are also Big Bucks Man on Campus.

 

[auror]

His connection with Big John.

I'm losing it. My brain combined Big John and Patrick Ewing into one person for a minute there.

 

[kobe]

Good luck against Depaul in the CBC!

thank you. blessed to say my coach will be coaching a postseason game in april, will mr. danny hurley be doing the same?

 

[Scrutineer]

You're like 8th fiddle at Texas as the men's basketball coach. While you're gonna get support it's not the type of support you need to build a championship program.

Disagree. He had good teams at Arizona when he had to cheat to get the money to buy players. Texas will have all the money he needs.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

thank you. blessed to say my coach will be coaching a postseason game in april, will mr. danny hurley be doing the same?

I doubt Dan Hurley will feel "blessed to say [kobe's] coach will be coaching in a postseason game in April."

Whatever would lead you to consider that possibility and bring it to this forum?

 

[Scrutineer]

I know what you mean, but Shaka has been to a Final Four.

In his second tournament with another coach's players.

Since then he's made one Sweet Sixteen, three rounds of 32 and seven one and dones, including 2023 when he was Coach of the Year.

 

[BFieldHusky]

I doubt Dan Hurley will feel "blessed to say [kobe's] coach will be coaching in a postseason game in April."

Whatever would lead you to consider that possibility and bring it to this forum?

It's all he has...

 

[Scrutineer]

The guy has been a huge post season disappointment. Makes Rick Barnes look like a perennial winner

But, but, but, Rick has been a genius for at least two years now.........didn't he kill it at Texas? Not.

 

[Scrutineer]

Big East has arguably the best collection of coaches and Putin isn't one of them.

He might have meant Volodomyr............

 

[BGesus4]

thank you. blessed to say my coach will be coaching a postseason game in april, will mr. danny hurley be doing the same?

6 rings baldy

 

[Scrutineer]

Miller really wanted to stay at X but his list of improvements for the program was unattainable, Texas of course could meet that. X is ahead of most P5 team spending, but still not upper echelon. Better job than WVU and Iowa however in terms of spending and focus on hoops.

Similar situation to what Willard is doing at Maryland. More NIL, more basketball spending & focus, etc. and then I will resign. Both guys are running out of time to be in a good position to win a championship.

Willard gets his contract at Maryland signed this morning, will open the door for Richard Pitino to grab Villanova (the best job available by far).

X will not hire Luke Murray this isn’t a 1st year HC job - Trilly regurgitates a lot of BS it’s not all true. Chris Mack, high performing mid major coach is the focus here. Cronin will not take X. Should know more today thru Fri.

There's a big difference between the HC and an assistant and the assistants may think they have all the answers but they're not the ones running the program. X's and O's don't equal all the personnel decisions and other issues a head coach has to navigate to be successful.
Luke needs to go to a place like Charleston and learn how to run a program.

 

[Scrutineer]

These days, I do thin

Or you can follow Rick Pitino's career and realize no job is a final destination.

Having visited Austin this last Uconn road game, I would put the Texas job up there. Between living in Austin, the Mooney Center/facilities, NIL and being able to live in a great town, it's up there. A lot of sour grapes around Miller leaving Xavier for the second time, but if you were lucky enough to be offered the UT job, you'd take it too.

Plus you get to play in the Moody Center......

 

[FfldCntyFan]

thank you. blessed to say my coach will be coaching a postseason game in april, will mr. danny hurley be doing the same?

He'll be getting his rings polished. Then he'll start working on getting more rings.

 

[ucp990411]

As of next week, he'd owe the school $10 million if he left. It's not happening unless the school voluntarily waived it (which they'd only do if they knew they could upgrade over Mick).

Wouldn’t be tough to do

 

[auror]

Wouldn’t be tough to do

I don't think they're getting many stud coaches to voluntarily take on that travel schedule. It's a competitive disadvantage.

 

[CL82]

I'm not sure Georgetown is really a destination job.

It was for Cooley, because no one's ever going to pay him that much again.

 

[CL82]

thank you. blessed to say my coach will be coaching a postseason game in april, will mr. danny hurley be doing the same?

Haha does it really count if it's only a rec league game?