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Inyatkin said:
The Big East is absolutely a stepping stone league. Who besides UConn is a destination job? Maybe Villanova. Georgetown I guess could be. Creighton lucked into a lifer. If any other coach in the league (75-year-old vampires aside) wins big they're on to bigger things elsewhere.
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How many destination jobs do you think other leagues have? And is it even possible for a league to have more than a couple of them before they start to take away from one another? Ask Villanova.

There are plenty of programs in all parts of the country that can build a powerhouse in the right circumstance with the right people and right resources in place. The Big East does not need Xavier, Marquette, Creighton, and Butler to be destination jobs in order to provide value. The league is designed for Villanova, UConn, St. John's, and Georgetown to win big. They may not all win big at once, but that's OK. N.C. State, UNC, Duke, and Wake don't all win big at once and neither do the Texas schools. It's not a coincidence that the most consistently successful programs of the last decade - Houston, Gonzaga, Kansas, Villanova, and then UConn - attained that success as the undisputed alphas of their leagues. Super leagues like the SEC, ACC, and Big 10, meanwhile, found that while they may get more teams to the tournament, only so many of them can be legitimately dominant (sorry Cuse, BC, Pitt).
 
BIIIG said:
Hearing rumors that Xavier has been reaching out to Mick Cronin as a replacement for Sean Miller. Rumblings of him missing the Cincinnati area and taking Xavier would allow him that and a way back into the Big East. Not sure he'd be willing to leave UCLA and all that comes with it, but definitely get why Xavier is doing their due dilligence on this one. Mick's brand never looked right in the blue and yellow
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As of next week, he'd owe the school $10 million if he left. It's not happening unless the school voluntarily waived it (which they'd only do if they knew they could upgrade over Mick).
 
auror said:
As of next week, he'd owe the school $10 million if he left. It's not happening unless the school voluntarily waived it (which they'd only do if they knew they could upgrade over Mick).
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nah
 
champs99and04 said:
How many destination jobs do you think other leagues have?
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Just off the top of my head, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and UCLA easily qualify. You need to be University of Something, typically, and our conference has mostly small private schools. It's an issue
 
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uconngb said:
Ignoring him is an ever better present. It’s like not having a dog crap on your doorstep every day.
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Lol - I am fascinated at to what this very odd human is, if he's even human at all. I'm picturing a highly advanced labradoodle on a keyboard.
 
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Haven't seen it yet, but I imagine Miller, who i believe signed an extension in the last year plus, had a buyout.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Haven't seen it yet, but I imagine Miller, who i believe signed an extension in the last year plus, had a buyout.
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I doubt Texas is worried about the cost of a buyout, they have more than that in the tray where they put their spare change.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I doubt Texas is worried about the cost of a buyout, they have more than that in the tray where they put their spare change.
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Not looking at it from that angle. Could give Xavier more money for NIL.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Not looking at it from that angle. Could give Xavier more money for NIL.
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Yeah now that the AD can spend money on players, buyouts are now pretty useful for schools that don't have the revenue to spend up to the 22 mil cap normally, specifically schools that also don't need to split that money with football.
 
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Inyatkin said:
The Big East is absolutely a stepping stone league. Who besides UConn is a destination job? Maybe Villanova. Georgetown I guess could be. Creighton lucked into a lifer. If any other coach in the league (75-year-old vampires aside) wins big they're on to bigger things elsewhere.
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Agree UConn, Georgetown, Villanova are the three destinations (varying degrees of destination for each), in the Big East. With more money, NIL, the P4 football conferences, regardless of basketball tradition at schools, will be the end goals for any coach in the Big East and below.
 
Marquette is top 20 nationally in annual basketball expenditures, dedicated fanbase, and good facilities. For certain coaches it would also qualify as a destination job. Not sure about their NIL, but I reckon it's reasonably competitive.
 
RuffRuff said:
Lol - I am fascinated at to what this very odd human is, if he's even human at all. I'm picturing a highly advanced labradoodle on a keyboard.
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It's as though pattern recognition doesn't even occur to you.

Fwiw, gb suffers from a similar blindness that makes him a quintessentially reliable poster. I have never followed curiosity about a 'missing' post and been 'disappointed' by what he's written. It's so consistently sour and/or dumb. I'm glad he's not part of my mix.

I loved last week when he wondered why there was no thread on a significant subject and somebody pointed out that the thread must have been started by somebody who ignores him.

By contrast, you're quite capable of adding value, but don't have the benefit of a good editor or enough flair to be be Substack-worthy.

Toward you, I aim to be helpful. You know that a labradoodle wouldn't poop in your path, but with glasses lowered on his nose, he might insistently nudge you into the present and stress the value of encouraging the best for UConn without feeling so strong a need to cover your ass by qualifying your enthisiasms with knowing insights about gaps & deficits, as though they aren't equally apparent to many who don't feel quite so strong a need to emphasize them.
 
Inyatkin said:
Just off the top of my head, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and UCLA easily qualify. You need to be University of Something, typically, and our conference has mostly small private schools. It's an issue
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That's the thing though. UCLA was a destination job in the PAC-12. I don't think it is anymore. I don't even think UCLA thinks it is anymore.

As for the others, Indiana I'll give you. The other three are big brands with a lot of resources, but I'm not sure they're necessarily better jobs. Ed Cooley (reportedly) turned down Michigan. He didn't turn down Georgetown. Jay Wright turned down plenty of offers over the course of 20+ years at Villanova.

I think the jury remains out on whether the small private school thing is an issue. It doesn't seem to be for Duke.
 
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JungleLobo said:
Tough to win at that football school, unless KD is coming back to finish his degree
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After what Bama has done, I don't think there's any such thing as a footbal school; just a sports school. Sports have seasons, when one is over we move on to the next.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
It's as though pattern recognition doesn't even occur to you.

Fwiw, gb suffers from a similar blindness that makes him a quintessentially reliable poster. I have never followed curiosity about a 'missing' post and been 'disappointed' by what he's written. It's so consistently sour and/or dumb. I'm glad he's not part of my mix.

I loved last week when he wondered why there was no thread on a significant subject and somebody pointed out that the thread must have been started by somebody who ignores him.

By contrast, you're quite capable of adding value, but don't have the benefit of a good editor or enough flair to be be Substack-worthy.

Toward you, I aim to be helpful. You know that a labradoodle wouldn't poop in your path, but with glasses lowered on his nose, he might insistently nudge you into the present and stress the value of encouraging the best for UConn without feeling so strong a need to cover your ass by qualifying your enthisiasms with knowing insights about gaps & deficits, as though they aren't equally apparent to many who don't feel quite so strong a need to emphasize them.
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Poetry in motion
 
champs99and04 said:
That's the thing though. UCLA was a destination job in the PAC-12. I don't think it is anymore. I don't even think UCLA thinks it is anymore.

As for the others, Indiana I'll give you. The other three are big brands with a lot of resources, but I'm not sure they're necessarily better jobs. Ed Cooley (reportedly) turned down Michigan. He didn't turn down Georgetown. Jay Wright turned down plenty of offers over the course of 20+ years at Villanova.

I think the jury remains out on whether the small private school thing is an issue. It doesn't seem to be for Duke.
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Certainly if Mick Cronin leaves UCLA for Villanova or Xavier it blows a hole in my theory.

I do think Duke is one of one, and shouldn't be used to compare to other schools
 
I love how Cincy hasn't done squat since they ran Mick out of town. Mick was the problem, they said. Meanwhile, Mick has his Final Four and Cincy has squadoosh.
 
Inyatkin said:
The Big East is absolutely a stepping stone league. Who besides UConn is a destination job? Maybe Villanova. Georgetown I guess could be. Creighton lucked into a lifer. If any other coach in the league (75-year-old vampires aside) wins big they're on to bigger things elsewhere.
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There's honestly only a few jobs in the entire country that aren't "stepping stones"...it all depends on what the coach is looking for. I don't think you need to go much farther than looking at Buzz Williams's career as evidence of how fluid the coaching carousel is, even in the power conferences.
 
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