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Mid-Portal Look at Roster

KillaCam said:
Your choices are on my potential targets list as well. In Danny we trust!
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Pop Isaacs has started at some major programs - he is not coming to backup Demary. Who we bring is for that role is likely someone we have no idea on. I haven't looked at mid major senior PG's, but I'd start there.
 
RuffRuff said:
Pop Isaacs has started at some major programs - he is not coming to backup Demary. Who we bring is for that role is likely someone we have no idea on. I haven't looked at mid major senior PG's, but I'd start there.
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And putting basketball aside, he's not exactly a culture fit here
 
Jaydumo20 said:
UConn is in a way better position than most, but the portal is not the supermarket.
Teams dont have real control over who transfers, and kids leave before teams have a chance to find a replacement.
Sometimes, you're just screwed and scrambling. Piecing together whatever you can grab.
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Was listening to a CBB podcast the other day and they were saying the vein that's gonna be mined much more imare foreign players because there's not enough domestic players available to match the needs of all the teams that need players. Therefore many will go overseas, and now that the NCAA is allowing foreign trips every year , they said you're gonna see some strategy with where teams go and who they play.
 
Kolumbo said:
I just want facts. I understand decisions take longer these days with the added NIL and revenue sharing deals. UConn Basketball needs something like this for official news

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You’d be surprised how fairly easy it is to create one of these. A good friend of mine is the president of our school hockey program and he asked that I help with the high school team’s Instagram account for announcements and other in-season stuff. I downloaded Canva and played around with it for a few hours (in between Boneyard posts) and got a lot of good feedback. Someone doing this full-time would have a field day.
 
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SeanElAmin said:
Was listening to a CBB podcast the other day and they were saying the vein that's gonna be mined much more imare foreign players because there's not enough domestic players available to match the needs of all the teams that need players. Therefore many will go overseas, and now that the NCAA is allowing foreign trips every year , they said you're gonna see some strategy with where teams go and who they play.
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I don't doubt it. It just feels like programs are all trying to stay afloat. Whats happening, at least for me, is less engagement. I used to read about each team over the summer and already have a good idea who their freshman recruits are and who their returning guys are. It made me more engaged and more excited to watch non-UConn OOC games. But since its impossible to keep up i don't do that anymore.
 
SeanElAmin said:
In short, it's auto correct. I'm a juvenile probation officer and I have a current kid on my caseload I text a lot for updates whose name is Brayden....so when I type Braylon, it changes it. I also always spell Silas' name wrong. That's my bad. Khamenia and Najai have nothing to correct to.
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Phone autocorrect is constantly butchering everything I type on this forum so understand.
 
bmayuc said:
With the Portal clarifying (a bit), lets look at the potential roster...
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by the numbers:

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KillaCam said:
If we follow Hurley’s hint at need more money or we lose “Bball Capital of World” status and where we are number wise with roster, money may be tight and that adds another dimension to finding the right pieces. Also, kids and their “camps” are not blind to the fact that 9-15 got pretty much zero playing time at UConn. In Hurley I trust, but do the potential pieces in board with their own careers with high zero minutes possibility?
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Almost no team goes deeper than 9. The backup center position gets decent minutes. That is an attractive spot for someone. If they are good could potentially be a split.
I think they will get someone to play backup PG, after that it will just be practice players or break glass in case of emergency type of player. Unless there is a miraculous Freeman signing I think to back up the 4 they will rely of Ross and Landrew.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Pop Isaacs has started at some major programs - he is not coming to backup Demary. Who we bring is for that role is likely someone we have no idea on. I haven't looked at mid major senior PG's, but I'd start there.
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That’s fair on Isaacs …what do you think about Freeman ( Creighton) and Felder ? I think they are lower priced guys that could play 5 and some 4 when bigger lineups needed
 
SeanElAmin said:
Was listening to a CBB podcast the other day and they were saying the vein that's gonna be mined much more imare foreign players because there's not enough domestic players available to match the needs of all the teams that need players. Therefore many will go overseas, and now that the NCAA is allowing foreign trips every year , they said you're gonna see some strategy with where teams go and who they play.
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It appears Slick Rick is following this model picking up Euro pro players
 
Bigbrad1029 said:
That’s fair on Isaacs …what do you think about Freeman ( Creighton) and Felder ? I think they are lower priced guys that could play 5 and some 4 when bigger lineups needed
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I'm leaving that one to the staff - I don't think anyone here will be able to guess where they're going. If anything, I'd check to see if there are any MM PG's from teams we played in the portal.

Bigbrad1029 said:
It appears Slick Rick is following this model picking up Euro pro players
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Rick will find any angle.
 
Scottobot said:
Almost no team goes deeper than 9. The backup center position gets decent minutes. That is an attractive spot for someone. If they are good could potentially be a split.
I think they will get someone to play backup PG, after that it will just be practice players or break glass in case of emergency type of player. Unless there is a miraculous Freeman signing I think to back up the 4 they will rely of Ross and Landrew.
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Go ahead and check ACTUAL games played and minutes per each team’s website. Maybe 9 players get significant minutes, but other players get some minutes. I will use Illinois example. Their least used player played in 9 games and averaged 3.5 minutes. UConn will struggle getting serviceable pieces when a few players did not or barely sniffed the floor.
 
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Scottobot said:
Almost no team goes deeper than 9. The backup center position gets decent minutes. That is an attractive spot for someone. If they are good could potentially be a split.
I think they will get someone to play backup PG, after that it will just be practice players or break glass in case of emergency type of player. Unless there is a miraculous Freeman signing I think to back up the 4 they will rely of Ross and Landrew.
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This is not only about 9 deep but about getting some minutes in some games. Try to recruit backups with minutes or opportunities given to our 10-15. Serviceable backups when someone gets hurt.
 
I find it very difficult to believe that there isn't someone out there capable of providing 16+ minutes and game at PG who wouldn't mind doing so coming off the bench for us.

For many players, even without having a featured role, being a legitimate part of a program at our level, with our capabilities has to have quite a bit of allure.
 
KillaCam said:
Go ahead and check ACTUAL games played and minutes per each team’s website. Maybe 9 players get significant minutes, but other players get some minutes. I will use Illinois example. Their least used player played in 9 games and averaged 3.5 minutes. UConn will struggle getting serviceable pieces when a few players did not or barely sniffed the floor.
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How is this different than UConn? You use the Illinois example but Koroma played 17 games at 5 minutes, Millender 18 games at 3.5 minutes. And that's the exact type we're looking at for end of bench pieces
 
navery12 said:
How is this different than UConn? You use the Illinois example but Koroma played 17 games at 5 minutes, Millender 18 games at 3.5 minutes. And that's the exact type we're looking at for end of bench pieces
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And how many of them could or were used when Silas had to hubble on half a leg or Reed needed a breather? The point is that unless you are happy with second places and maybe you are (argument of how many schools would trade places with us is not what got Hurley where this program is), you will not attract serviceable subs when key players are hurt if you do not give them minutes/experiences beyond exhibition games. What I stated is that the last bench player on Illinois bench played in 9 games and averaged 3.5 minutes. Can you provide stats for Jacob Ross or Elezaj or Paunovic? Those players and their agents talk, read and check statistics. While you may not need those guys or depend on them, they can be serviceable if incorporated early enough. In Danny we trust but it does not make it easy to recruit SERVICEABLE pieces 10-15 and if you have some injuries (as we had) and foul trouble games (as we had), you will limit your chances. And while you can and will win games, you are not going to beat Duke’s of this world with a miracle shot with 3rd of the second left.
 
KillaCam said:
And how many of them could or were used when Silas had to hubble on half a leg or Reed needed a breather? The point is that unless you are happy with second places and maybe you are (argument of how many schools would trade places with us is not what got Hurley where this program is), you will not attract serviceable subs when key players are hurt if you do not give them minutes/experiences beyond exhibition games. What I stated is that the last bench player on Illinois bench played in 9 games and averaged 3.5 minutes. Can you provide stats for Jacob Ross or Elezaj or Paunovic? Those players and their agents talk, read and check statistics. While you may not need those guys or depend on them, they can be serviceable if incorporated early enough. In Danny we trust but it does not make it easy to recruit SERVICEABLE pieces 10-15 and if you have some injuries (as we had) and foul trouble games (as we had), you will limit your chances. And while you can and will win games, you are not going to beat Duke’s of this world with a miracle shot with 3rd of the second left.
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about players we cared about not the end of the bench guys. I was not aware you were suggesting we have a 15 man rotation, which is absolutely asinine. We will never have any lack of ability to fill those spots, guys will always be willing to take the NIL deals and spend the year as a practice player at one of the best schools in the country.

I can't believe this is even a conversation. There is zero reason to play our best players less so we can get a serviceable 15th man on the roster. If the 15th man wants to get rotation minutes he should go back to high school rec basketball where all minutes are equal
 
I have a feeling that absent injury, foul trouble, off nights, there won't be much of a rotation.

Demery (30), (TBD or County) (10), (County or Ball) (spot) - Depending on the transfer, County can earn the backup spot.
Ball (30), Mullins (10), County (spot) - If Ball is pulling spot PG duty, County can steal a few more minutes as SG
Mullins (20), Landrew (15)/, Khamenia (5) - I'm forcing Landrew in this spot, Khamenia and Ross are likely to play 25 each
Ross (20)/Khamenia (20) - I don't see anyone else getting minutes here. Defense and rebounding will determine the split.
HInes (25), TBD (15) - This is the biggest hole, we need another stud here, whether an in-kind partner or a change of pace.

There are a lot of bodies in the Guard/Wing spot. I don't see any of the newcomers dislodging Demery, Ball, or Mullins. Each will play 25-30 minutes a game. I expect a Reed like awakening for Ball next season if he's in full health. Hurley is going to have to find a way to get him the ball more. We are going to need his dribble midrange game. I'm expecting his 3pt shooting to return to form. There is a huge logjam at the 3 spot, especially if you expect Mullins to play a bigger role now that he is no longer the 4th/5th option on offense.

It will be interesting how Hurley uses Ross and Khamenia. Ross was huge late in the season, his shots were falling and he was AJ Jackson like on the defensive end. Unless Khamenia is an instant star, I expect Hurley to start Ross, even if the minutes are split.

County is not going to see much time unless he shows up and plays lights out. Same for Landrew, but he may see time as SF depending how often Ross and Khamenia are on the floor together. If Ross plays 25-30 at PF, that means Khamenia is playing 10-15 at the SF, which leaves next to nothing after he and Mullins.
 
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SubbaBub said:
I have a feeling that absent injury, foul trouble, off nights, there won't be much of a rotation.

Demery (30), (TBD or County) (10), (County or Ball) (spot) - Depending on the transfer, County can earn the backup spot.
Ball (30), Mullins (10), County (spot) - If Ball is pulling spot PG duty, County can steal a few more minutes as SG
Mullins (20), Landrew (15)/, Khamenia (5) - I'm forcing Landrew in this spot, Khamenia and Ross are likely to play 25 each
Ross (20)/Khamenia (20) - I don't see anyone else getting minutes here. Defense and rebounding will determine the split.
HInes (25), TBD (15) - This is the biggest hole, we need another stud here, whether an in-kind partner or a change of pace.

There are a lot of bodies in the Guard/Wing spot. I don't see any of the newcomers dislodging Demery, Ball, or Mullins. Each will play 25-30 minutes a game. I expect a Reed like awakening for Ball next season if he's in full health. Hurley is going to have to find a way to get him the ball more. We are going to need his dribble midrange game. I'm expecting his 3pt shooting to return to form. There is a huge logjam at the 3 spot, especially if you expect Mullins to play a bigger role now that he is no longer the 4th/5th option on offense.

It will be interesting how Hurley uses Ross and Khamenia. Ross was huge late in the season, his shots were falling and he was AJ Jackson like on the defensive end. Unless Khamenia is an instant star, I expect Hurley to start Ross, even if the minutes are split.

County is not going to see much time unless he shows up and plays lights out. Same for Landrew, but he may see time as SF depending how often Ross and Khamenia are on the floor together. If Ross plays 25-30 at PF, that means Khamenia is playing 10-15 at the SF, which leaves next to nothing after he and Mullins.
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Landrew is the 15th ranked frosh this year and with a ready to go body.
navery12 said:
Sorry, I thought you were talking about players we cared about not the end of the bench guys. I was not aware you were suggesting we have a 15 man rotation, which is absolutely asinine. We will never have any lack of ability to fill those spots, guys will always be willing to take the NIL deals and spend the year as a practice player at one of the best schools in the country.

I can't believe this is even a conversation. There is zero reason to play our best players less so we can get a serviceable 15th man on the roster. If the 15th man wants to get rotation minutes he should go back to high school rec basketball where all minutes are equal
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Serviceable players at 10-15 are for practice purposes. If they're seeing the floor, there is an issue. Last year 10-15 was a bunch of international types along for the ride and to experience UConn culture. All we need there.
 
navery12 said:
Sorry, I thought you were talking about players we cared about not the end of the bench guys. I was not aware you were suggesting we have a 15 man rotation, which is absolutely asinine. We will never have any lack of ability to fill those spots, guys will always be willing to take the NIL deals and spend the year as a practice player at one of the best schools in the country.

I can't believe this is even a conversation. There is zero reason to play our best players less so we can get a serviceable 15th man on the roster. If the 15th man wants to get rotation minutes he should go back to high school rec basketball where all minutes are equal
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Is this how you teach your kids to have a conversation? I thought I am talking with civilized person and not disrespectful one.
 
KillaCam said:
Is this how you teach your kids to have a conversation? I thought I am talking with civilized person and not disrespectful one.
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Guess you thought wrong then. The idea of recruiting 15 players to get minutes is not one that is worth entertaining
 
RuffRuff said:
Landrew is the 15th ranked frosh this year and with a ready to go body.

Serviceable players at 10-15 are for practice purposes. If they're seeing the floor, there is an issue. Last year 10-15 was a bunch of international types along for the ride and to experience UConn culture. All we need there.
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The math is the math. At best he, Ross, Mullins, and Khamenia average 20 minutes each at the 3/4, and Mullins spells Ball at the 2 for 10 minutes a game. Anymore and either Ross or Khamenia is sitting. I don't think either is here to sit behind a freshman.
 
SubbaBub said:
The math is the math. At best he, Ross, Mullins, and Khamenia average 20 minutes each at the 3/4, and Mullins spells Ball at the 2 for 10 minutes a game. Anymore and either Ross or Khamenia is sitting. I don't think either is here to sit behind a freshman.
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No doubt, there is a logjam at the 2-3, why I thought it was a longshot Stew was sticking. It could be part of what is creating the issue with Ball. I'm sure they are hammering out the details to finalize, but at the same time, not sure it makes us a worse team by moving Mullins to the two and being a bigger and better defensive team with Landrew/Ross at the 3. Especially now that we have a "shooter" at the 4. This would be firmly moving to more of the 23 roster and Ross hopefully making another leap into the Ajx type role. Khamenia and Mullins do the AK/Hawkins.

Moving Ball to the bench to play the Calcaterra role would be entirely possible.
 
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