Mid-Portal Look at Roster

[bmayuc]

With the Portal clarifying (a bit), lets look at the potential roster... and could be a super dangerous team.

PG - Silas Demary
SG - Solo
G/F - Braylon
F - Jayden??
C - Hines

6th man - Khamenia???
Backup Big - TBD
PG2 - County
G/F - Colben Landrew
G/F - Jacob Ross

Notes: Let me know if I'm missing anyone here, but as that stands...

1. Im pretty concerned with rebounding & defending the post. We all like Hines, but he is a young guy and we'd REALLY be counting on him to be a 30 min guy and take a big step in production. Also, Solo/Braylon, Khamenia not sure there is a ton of rebounds to be found there, and if we have 3/5 of our roster below average rebounding, that will put a ton of pressure on us. In addition, the trend right now is that teams spend big $$ at oversized skill players at that 4 spot and physically dominate - see michigan, florida, zona. And as we saw, that mismatch really came back to bite us last year. I hope we have eyes on a rough/tough rebound and defense guy at that spot, at least off the bench if we need fouls/mismatch.
2. We also need a backup C
3. We are really counting on one/both of landrew/county to be able to handle/create offense as this roster has limited guys who can create on their own.

Are people seeing this shaping up the same way?

 

[Mets1432]

As currently set up this team will have a similar problem it has had since Tristen Newtown left, no one able to drop, drive, and finish.

This alone leads to the prolonged scoring droughts this team has had issues with when the 3 isn't going down. I am not sure if Wilkins fits the profile but I think he helps in this regard.

 

[FreeDogs]

The bigger problem is we only have 5 of those players confirmed...with two of them listed on your bench.

 

[bendm]

Ross is 6th man. NK is not transferring to come off the bench and is much better equipped to play PF than Ross, so are Landrew and stew who you didn’t list

 

[huskdogs]

Need need need a backup Center. I saw someone suggesting Ross getting minutes at the 5 next year. That simply cannot be a possibility

 

[bendm]

Need need need a backup Center. I saw someone suggesting Ross getting minutes at the 5 next year. That simply cannot be a possibility

It’s not a possibility lol

 

[husky429]

With the Portal clarifying (a bit), lets look at the potential roster... and could be a super dangerous team.

PG - Silas Demary
SG - Solo
G/F - Braylon
F - Jayden??
C - Hines

6th man - Khamenia???
Backup Big - TBD
PG2 - County
G/F - Colben Landrew
G/F - Jacob Ross

Notes: Let me know if I'm missing anyone here, but as that stands...

1. Im pretty concerned with rebounding & defending the post. We all like Hines, but he is a young guy and we'd REALLY be counting on him to be a 30 min guy and take a big step in production. Also, Solo/Braylon, Khamenia not sure there is a ton of rebounds to be found there, and if we have 3/5 of our roster below average rebounding, that will put a ton of pressure on us. In addition, the trend right now is that teams spend big $$ at oversized skill players at that 4 spot and physically dominate - see michigan, florida, zona. And as we saw, that mismatch really came back to bite us last year. I hope we have eyes on a rough/tough rebound and defense guy at that spot, at least off the bench if we need fouls/mismatch.
2. We also need a backup C
3. We are really counting on one/both of landrew/county to be able to handle/create offense as this roster has limited guys who can create on their own.

Are people seeing this shaping up the same way?

Khamenia will start if he commits here.

Ross is not a PF. He's more likely to back up the 2. If anyone is backing up the 4 it's Stewart. Stewart has 20lbs on Ross. If Stewart decides to leave for more PT we would need to recruit a backup 4.

We are still going to pursue a backup PG and a backup C.

Re #1: We are still recruiting a backup big. If we assume that guy has some talent we won't be relying on Hines to play 30mpg. The most we've had a big play ever under Hurley is Tarris last year and he was <30mpg.

Re #3: Not really. Mullins is coming back and we have Jayden Ross. Possibly Stewart. County and Landrew are going to compete with both those guys to earn their spot. I'm pretty high on both of them (particularly Landrew). Great senior seasons against top competition.

 

[RuffRuff]

Pointless in trying to figure this out until everything falls into place. Too many unknowns.

For one, we have no idea how Hurley is going to use Landrew. Right now, the best guess you can make is Silas, Solo, Mullins, Khamenia & Hines starting. Even so, no point in guessing until it's real.

All I know is that if we have everyone back, and get everyone we are targeting, it would seems the math doesn't add up at all. I'm 100% confident Khamena would never come here to backup.

Silas = 30 minutes
Solo = 30 minutes
Mullins = 30 minutes
Khamenia = 30 minutes
Hines (some portal backup) = 40 minutes

We are going to find enough minutes for Ross, County, Landrew and Stew across the remaining 40 minutes?

If we get both Ross and Stew back for that, they need to be given honorary lifetime Husky awards in the portal era.

 

[3rdbass]

This is a pointless exercise at this time.

 

[bendm]

With the amount of cash we must be dropping to bring back our guys and add Hines and hopefully NK, I don’t see how we could still be in the market for a backup PF when we still need backups at PG and C. I think it’s either Stew or Landrew.

 

[Tenspro2002]

If we keep Ball, Mullins, and Stewart, and if Khamenia comes in, we could be looking at:

PG: Demary (30), portal backup (10)
SG: Ball (25), Mullins (10), Landrew (5)
SF: Mullins (20), Ross (20)
PF: Khamenia (25), Stewart (15)
C: Hines (30), portal backup (10)

We'd be fairly interchangeable at the 2-4, with Ball, Mullins, Khamenia getting 2/3 of the minutes, and Ross, Stewart, and Landrew (in that order) the remaining minutes.

We'd still need a backup PG and a backup C, and perhaps the latter could play alongside Hines -- if they have the appropriate skillset -- in a rare big lineup.

This would be 9-10 deep and would shorten, and also means we could accommodate losing one of those pieces at the 2-4 and still have adequate depth.

 

[RuffRuff]

If we keep Ball, Mullins, and Stewart, and if Khamenia comes in, we could be looking at:

PG: Demary (30), portal backup (10)
SG: Ball (25), Mullins (10), Landrew (5)
SF: Mullins (20), Ross (20)
PF: Khamenia (25), Stewart (15)
C: Hines (30), portal backup (10)

We'd be fairly interchangeable at the 2-4, with Ball, Mullins, Khamenia getting 2/3 of the minutes, and Ross, Stewart, and Landrew (in that order) the remaining minutes.

We'd still need a backup PG and a backup C, and perhaps the latter could play alongside Hines -- if they have the appropriate skillset -- in a rare big lineup.

This would be 9-10 deep and would shorten, and also means we could accommodate losing one of those pieces at the 2-4 and still have adequate depth.

Landrew is getting 5 minutes? This doesn't feel like the right blend.

We do this every year, expect a 100 man rotation.

 

[Lafayette]

Too many rumors like Stew to portal and Nik coming here to really focus on lineup.

Just getting a confirmed BrayStay would help.

 

[bendm]

PG: Demary 30 / transfer PG 10
SG: Ball 25 / Mullins 15
W: Mullins 10 / Ross 20 / Landrew 10
F: Khamenia 25 / Stewart 15
C: Hines 30 / transfer C 10

30: Silas / Hines
25: Ball / Mullins / NK
20: Ross
15: Stew
10: transfer PG / Landrew / transfer C

Still a 10 man rotation with a couple guys that prob wouldn’t be happy with their PT

 

[EC1978]

Pointless in trying to figure this out until everything falls into place. Too many unknowns.

For one, we have no idea how Hurley is going to use Landrew. Right now, the best guess you can make is Silas, Solo, Mullins, Khamenia & Hines starting. Even so, no point in guessing until it's real.

All I know is that if we have everyone back, and get everyone we are targeting, it would seems the math doesn't add up at all. I'm 100% confident Khamena would never come here to backup.

Silas = 30 minutes
Solo = 30 minutes
Mullins = 30 minutes
Khamenia = 30 minutes
Hines (some portal backup) = 40 minutes

We are going to find enough minutes for Ross, County, Landrew and Stew across the remaining 40 minutes?

If we get both Ross and Stew back for that, they need to be given honorary lifetime Husky awards in the portal era.

Minutes are broken down by a starting point of 200 total game minutes, then divide, starting 5 get 30 each that leaves the subs with 50 total or 4 guys getting the 50 remaining or each getting 12.5 a game, but that’s just a general breakdown of minutes, 4 starters get 35 minutes you got the bench getting 60 total minutes

 

[RuffRuff]

Minutes are broken down by a starting point of 200 total game minutes, then divide, starting 5 get 30 each that leaves the subs with 50 total or 4 guys getting the 50 remaining or each getting 12.5 a game, but that’s just a general breakdown of minutes, 4 starters get 35 minutes you got the bench getting 60 total minutes

It's not even that complicated.

We have two specialist positions in PG & C. Then we have 3 more flexible positions and are looking to jam 6 guys in there across 120 minutes, when it's fairly certain the starters will conservatively get 30/each. That leaves 2 guys with 15 minutes each, conservatively. One a 4 year senior.

 

[FlexOnEm]

My best take:

PG: Demary 28 / Transfer PG 12
SG: Ball 25 / Mullins 15
SF: Mullins 11 / Ross 25 / Landrew 4
PF: Khamenia 25 / Landrew 15
C: Hines 25 / Transfer C 15

There needs to be minutes in there for County, too. I'm just not sure where. If he's buried on the bench you can all but guarantee a trip to the portal next year.

 

[Donyell 360]

G/F - Jacob Ross

Is this a hybrid of Jacob Furphy and Jayden Ross? I'd rather just have Jayden.

 

[bendm]

Is this a hybrid of Jacob Furphy and Jayden Ross? I'd rather just have Jayden.

It’s his brother

 

[CTBasketball]

Stewart would start over Khamenia from Day 1.

 

[businesslawyer]

Pointless in trying to figure this out until everything falls into place. Too many unknowns.

For one, we have no idea how Hurley is going to use Landrew. Right now, the best guess you can make is Silas, Solo, Mullins, Khamenia & Hines starting. Even so, no point in guessing until it's real.

All I know is that if we have everyone back, and get everyone we are targeting, it would seems the math doesn't add up at all. I'm 100% confident Khamena would never come here to backup.

Silas = 30 minutes
Solo = 30 minutes
Mullins = 30 minutes
Khamenia = 30 minutes
Hines (some portal backup) = 40 minutes

We are going to find enough minutes for Ross, County, Landrew and Stew across the remaining 40 minutes?

If we get both Ross and Stew back for that, they need to be given honorary lifetime Husky awards in the portal era.

So you declare it pointless to try to figure it out, and then five additional paragraphs figuring it out? Did you ever hear the phrase “stop when you are ahead?”

 

[FlexOnEm]

Stewart would start over Khamenia from Day 1.

That's a flaming hot take. If he earns that, our rotation is going to be lethal top to bottom.

 

[Donyell 360]

It’s his brother

I forgot his brother was on the team. I saw "Jayden??" at power forward and assumed he misspelled Jaylin because otherwise Stewart didn't even make the list. Is Stewart in the portal? I agree with others Ross is not a power forward.

 

[JungleLobo]

As currently set up this team will have a similar problem it has had since Tristen Newtown left, no one able to drop, drive, and finish.

This alone leads to the prolonged scoring droughts this team has had issues with when the 3 isn't going down. I am not sure if Wilkins fits the profile but I think he helps in this regard.

That type of player is not attracted to this option type offense nor having to run stairs to the extent you need to for this program.

 

[RuffRuff]

So you declare it pointless to try to figure it out, and then five additional paragraphs figuring it out? Did you ever hear the phrase “stop when you are ahead?”

Explaining why it's pointless - no one has any idea what the plan/outcome is 2-4 until things land. It's a schmrogasborg.

 

[RuffRuff]

I forgot his brother was on the team. I saw "Jayden??" at power forward and assumed he misspelled Jaylin because otherwise Stewart didn't even make the list. Is Stewart in the portal? I agree with others Ross is not a power forward.

Jacob is still with, no?

 

[Donyell 360]

Jacob is still with, no?

I have not heard otherwise on Jacob Ross. Just forgot about him entirely. My fault. But still not clear why the OP didn't mention Stewart. Did I miss an announcement?

 

[bendm]

My best take:

PG: Demary 28 / Transfer PG 12
SG: Ball 25 / Mullins 15
SF: Mullins 11 / Ross 25 / Landrew 4
PF: Khamenia 25 / Landrew 15
C: Hines 25 / Transfer C 15

There needs to be minutes in there for County, too. I'm just not sure where. If he's buried on the bench you can all but guarantee a trip to the portal next year.

Agreed it’ll prob end up a 9 man rotation with county 10th man. At least he’d start in 5v5 scrimmages.

 

[3rdbass]

With the amount of cash we must be dropping to bring back our guys and add Hines and hopefully NK, I don’t see how we could still be in the market for a backup PF when we still need backups at PG and C. I think it’s either Stew or Landrew.

I'm still not sold we are bringing in a backup PG for a lot of money with County on board. I know he is a combo guard but why not see what he can do as he seems to have decent ball handling skills and we already have a good PG. I can see bringing a 3rd PG from a lower level school to help in case of injury or if County doesn't work out there. It has been pretty quiet on the PG front for us.

 

[bendm]

I'm still not sold we are bringing in a backup PG for a lot of money with County on board. I know he is a combo guard but why not see what he can do as he seems to have decent ball handling skills and we already have a good PG. I can see bringing a 3rd PG from a lower level school to help in case of injury or if County doesn't work out there. It has been pretty quiet on the PG front for us.

Maybe but if Silas misses time, like he could have with that ankle, like Reed did with his ankle, do we want to rely on county to come in and run the team. Smith and Reibe were big for us this year as backups.