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Reports are that the M's are eating up to half of Cano's remaining contract.Without knowing how much Cano money the M's are eating,
Reports are that the M's are eating up to half of Cano's remaining contract.
I agree. I don’t love the deal. Hard to know with prospects because we haven’t seen them play, but, being a Mets fan, I have a gut feeling that we’ll be watching Kelenic and Dunn tear up MLB for years to come on other teams, while Cano is in decline and Diaz morphs into Benitez.I guess that's a start. Still a head scratcher why they'd give up 2 of their top prospects for a closer when there are so many quality relievers on the free agent market. If they're going to deal prospects, use them to address a weakness that can't be filled via free agency.
But the deal appears to be "on hold" now. Hopefully the Mets are coming to their senses and telling the M's to go punt that Cano contract.
I guess that's a start. Still a head scratcher why they'd give up 2 of their top prospects for a closer when there are so many quality relievers on the free agent market. If they're going to deal prospects, use them to address a weakness that can't be filled via free agency.
But the deal appears to be "on hold" now. Hopefully the Mets are coming to their senses and telling the M's to go punt that Cano contract.
I agree. I don’t love the deal. Hard to know with prospects because we haven’t seen them play, but, being a Mets fan, I have a gut feeling that we’ll be watching Kelenic and Dunn tear up MLB for years to come on other teams, while Cano is in decline and Diaz morphs into Benitez.
I also can’t believe we are re-signing D’Arnaud and letting Wilmer walk. D’Arnoud has been injured for five seasons in a row, while Flores has done everything asked of him.
I agree. “Tear up MLB” was probably too strong for Dunn, but still a first-rounder who by all accounts remains solid.Eh. Kelenic could be a star, so that one hurts, but Dunn is probably a mid-rotation starter at best.
I agree. I don’t love the deal. Hard to know with prospects because we haven’t seen them play, but, being a Mets fan, I have a gut feeling that we’ll be watching Kelenic and Dunn tear up MLB for years to come on other teams, while Cano is in decline and Diaz morphs into Benitez.
I also can’t believe we are re-signing D’Arnaud and letting Wilmer walk. D’Arnoud has been injured for five seasons in a row, while Flores has done everything asked of him.
Agree with all of this. Although you and I both know that if we bring Murph back we’ll be cursing him booting grounders in no time flat.I can see the logic trading Dunn. Coming off surgery and the org has plenty of elite pitching. But I don't know if I'd rush to trade Kelenic unless they land a legit superstar. That's always the rub with prospects though, I suppose. He's yet to even play A-ball but the hit profile was elite entering the draft. All he needs is ABs to establish himself - his prospect and trade stock. If the Mets wanted to trade him, which I think is a mistake, they should at least wait until the trade deadline and let his 2019 ABs establish a higher draft stock. I would wager everything I own that Kelenic will be a top 25 prospect entering the 2020 season and, if the Mets still wanted to trade him, he alone might be enough to fetch a legit superstar.
Let the M's eat that Cano contract. They made that bed, let them lay in it. Go sign Andrew Miller or Craig Kimbrel or Adam Ottavino or David Robertson and they'll give you comp stats to Diaz...who will likely regress in 2019. Bring Daniel Murphy back on a team friendly 2 or 3 year deal and wait for Alonso, Gimenez, and Kelenic to get a full 2019's worth of MiLB ABs. Maybe Alonso will be ready for a wildcard push.
Diaz is better than any reliever on the open market outside of Kimbrel, who is 28 and wants a 6 year deal at huge money. Diaz is making the league minimum next year, then arbitration the next 3.
Cano at $12 million per year for 5 years is much easier to swallow than $24 million per. He played at an all-star level last year, and while there'll most likely be a few years of weak production at the end of the deal it should hopefully be cancelled out by great production these first two years; in fact, if Cano matches what he did in 2018 next season, $12 million is a bargain.
I'm not in love with the deal, but to say they got fleeced is completely unfair.
Agree with all of this. Although you and I both know that if we bring Murph back we’ll be cursing him booting grounders in no time flat.
Disagree. You don't have to sign Kimbrel. How's about Robertson? Miller? Ottavino? All elite RPs. 3-4 yr deals to any of those 3.
Diaz had a great year in 2018. No doubt about that. But CP stats are completely driven by opportunity. M's played soooooo many 1-run games last year. Those insane 2018 stats will not be duplicated in Seattle or New York or anywhere else. He's a great reliever but you can protect your top prospects by signing a free agent instead.
Cano is 36 and post PED. Steady decline years coming. If you want an old 2B, sign Daniel Murphy or Ben Zobrist or Jed Lowrie. At least you're out of the contract in 2 or 3 years and have a spot for Gimenez in 2020/2021 when he's ready for promotion.
I can see trading Dunn. But cashing in Kelenic for a closer and a washed up 2B (and FIVE!!! years) would be a huge mistake.
Whelp, they did it. And M’s are reportedly only paying $20 million, which means we are on the hook for $100 million over five years to Cano, or $20 million a year.
Yep, I’d say the Mets got taken. And instantly the problem I have is that Cano’s former agent who sold the bill of goods to the M’s in the first place is the guy who bought it back.
Yes Diaz is great. But he’s a luxury we don’t need when we’re not going to sniff the post season unless the Mets are going to shell out a lot more money (unlikely) to fill a lot more holes.
Whelp, they did it. And M’s are reportedly only paying $20 million, which means we are on the hook for $100 million over five years to Cano, or $20 million a year.
Yep, I’d say the Mets got taken. And instantly the problem I have is that Cano’s former agent who sold the bill of goods to the M’s in the first place is the guy who bought it back.
Yes Diaz is great. But he’s a luxury we don’t need when we’re not going to sniff the post season unless the Mets are going to shell out a lot more money (unlikely) to fill a lot more holes.