OT: Mets DFA Matt Harvey.

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Harvey refused re-assignment to Vegas AAA to work on things. Between injuries and attitude he is one of the bigger flame outs in recent baseball history. Has become a real doosh. Mets likely to get nothing for him because I think he will clear waivers.
 

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Guy is a loose cannon. Injuries wrecked his arm, blowing that lead in the 9th inning of Game 5 of the 2015 World Series wrecked his head.
 
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Injuries are one thing, but his attitude alone has cost him millions. For someone who seemed so normal 5 years ago, he became a mental disaster.
 

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Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Addition by subtraction. Wish we had traded him years ago when we could have gotten something for him. The combination of his ego and Scott Boras being his agent doomed him from the start.

Props to Calloway for doing what needed to be done and not letting him put the stink on team. I guarantee he was not liked in that clubhouse.
 
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He was a hero in New York when he first came up. But has now seen himself become the villain. Ironic.

With the bad joke out of the way, I think the TOS really knocked the luster off of Harvey (I'm sure there are medical professionals here who could explain the specifics better than I, so I won't try). He hasn't been the same since. It's super unfortunate considering he'd already beat Tommy John. Independent of the injury, I will definitely agree with those disparaging his attitude. Certainly didn't do himself any favors.
 

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I agree with the comments here, but if old George Steinbrenner where around, he’d be a Yankee in seven days when he is fully released. And then he’d build himself back this summer and make a splashy return this fall.

All that said, he’s never going to turn the corner here. I think he’s been wanting this release.
 
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Callaway didn’t put up with a second of his diva routine this year. He must clearly feel this was addition by subtraction in that clubhouse. And with him and Dave Eliand diagnosing his mechanics, I am sure they didn’t see promise around the corner.
 
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Harvey refused re-assignment to Vegas AAA to work on things. Between injuries and attitude he is one of the bigger flame outs in recent baseball history. Has become a real doosh. Mets likely to get nothing for him because I think he will clear waivers.
Unfortunately I think he's always been a real doosh. I rooted for him because he's a Connecticut guy but he's always been really arrogant and handled everything about as poorly as possible.
 
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I loved this guy. He gave his all coming off Tommy John surgery and went way over his innings limit that year trying to win the world series. That may have ruined him as after that it was the Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. At this point though, it may be best for all for a change of scenery. I think he will rise once again. He still throws hard.
 
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Unfortunately I think he's always been a real doosh. I rooted for him because he's a Connecticut guy but he's always been really arrogant and handled everything about as poorly as possible.
This... It's easy to look the other way when a guy performs, but he's always been a .
 
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This... It's easy to look the other way when a guy performs, but he's always been a .
Exactly, teams will put up with a doosh when he throws 98 but at 93 with a 7.00 ERA the dooshiness gets old quickly. What a shame this story is though. I saw Harvey pitch a Spring Training game in 2015, he was one of the best three pitchers I’ve ever seen live, along with Pedro and Clemens.
 

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Mets made a very reasoned offer to go to the minors and work out the problems. Harvey said no. Mets say good bye. As it should be.

Not sure if I was a GM I would even give Harvey a look. Especially with his attitude.
 

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Mets made a very reasoned offer to go to the minors and work out the problems. Harvey said no. Mets say good bye. As it should be.

Not sure if I was a GM I would even give Harvey a look. Especially with his attitude.
Although I’ve never been a fan of his attitude, he might be worth a chance for another team, especially so cheap. He needed to be humbled and that wasn’t going to happen while he was still a Met because he simply never changed his attitude. Perhaps now he will have a new perspective to put that chip on his shoulder to good use.

Would be a good story, and the Mets have an unfortunate history of having players who leave come back to bite them in the ass, so I wouldn’t be shocked if it happens.

The only thing I knew for sure was that he was never going to last with the Mets through free agency.
 
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I can’t think of many pitchers who recovered to play well after TOS surgery. Josh Beckett, Chris Carpenter, Jaime Garcia and Chris Young were never the same after it. Tyson Ross is the only one who’s pitched at approximately the same level of performance as prior to the surgery.
 

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I can’t think of many pitchers who recovered to play well after TOS surgery. Josh Beckett, Chris Carpenter, Jaime Garcia and Chris Young were never the same after it. Tyson Ross is the only one who’s pitched at approximately the same level of performance as prior to the surgery.
Ehhh I don't have the stats but it's like half the pitchers have it now and their ligaments are stronger than ever before.
 
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Ehhh I don't have the stats but it's like half the pitchers have it now and their ligaments are stronger than ever before.
Are you sure you’re not thinking of Tommy John Surgery (TJS), which is a reconstruction of the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) and is pretty common with pitchers in the MLB? It’s when all those pitchers kept getting elbow problems or forearm strains.

TOS is thoracic outlet syndrome and it’s primarily an issue with compression of nerves and blood vessels, which is why one of the symptoms to look out for is tingling of the fingers and a weak arm. It has nothing to do with ligaments.
 

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Are you sure you’re not thinking of Tommy John Surgery (TJS), which is a reconstruction of the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) and is pretty common with pitchers in the MLB? It’s when all those pitchers kept getting elbow problems or forearm strains.

TOS is thoracic outlet syndrome and it’s primarily an issue with compression of nerves and blood vessels, which is why one of the symptoms to look out for is tingling of the fingers and a weak arm. It has nothing to do with ligaments.
Yes. I was. Oops.
 
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