There's usually a drop down from the 14-seed to the 15-seed. Honestly, though, if you're a 2 or 3 seed it shouldn't matter. But still, here are Palm's projected 14 and 15 seeds followed by their KenPom. Furman vs. Asheville is the difference between St. John's and DePaul.
Colgate is rated low, but they can make some noise.
I think after last night we are right on edge of 3 line or strongest 4. We beat providence we are a 3. We beat Marquette, you gotta figure we become strongest 3. We win big east we are definitely a 2 seed. I mean , we were a projected 4 seed last Monday and rolled 2 more teams this week. We win Thursday we still stay a 4? No way.
I’d be content with a 3 seed, which I think is fair. jumping a team like Tennessee which is struggling and has injuries is something the commitee hopefully does. If they just used sos and sor there would be no point in having a committee and they could just use the computers to decide the field.
If we beat Marquette that should clearly erase any doubt about our seed. I really think getting to that 3 line is huge!
For those wondering, here is the bracket: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Right? Those games looked a lot better when we scheduled them and when we played them then they do when the committee gets to looking at them.
The Big XII was incredible in the OOC, which means that when they beat each other up in conference it "launders" everyone's resume and they end up with 4-5 teams on the top 3 seed lines. Whether they deserve it remains to be seen.
Our KPI is 18 our SOR is 12. Average is 15.
If Marquette ends up as the 2 seed in East Region then I agree with Palm that UConn won't get placed as the 3 seed in the East with them, UConn will need to be a 3 seed in another region.
Wow, would never thought of Providence being on the bubble, but with those numbers you are right.
What website did you pull this screenshot from? Would love to see a bunch of metrics in one place
Use this
The AdjD didn't go up that much, but it was a cluster of teams in a similar value, so we went up a bunch of ranks.
Ah I see. Yeah I didn’t do much research as to how it did that and the teams ranked similarly, that increase in rank just caught my eye. 10th ranked offense and 12th ranked defense, pretty cool!
Wait, for the committee the conference tournament is a non-factor? Or a non-factor in these metrics?
Yep 2 important things here:
heatcheckcbb.com
Marquette game could be more important because they are also in the 3 line mix. If we beat them, especially if the margin is significant, not only are we adding a Q1A win, but also potentially jumping them (won 2/3 against them). Basically, I think we beat them we get a 3 seed, if we lose to Providence or them, I think we get a 4. I'm still team "probably can't get a 2 without a lot of help."
Never said the base it solely off that. I said last year every team was within 1 seed line of the average of KPI and SOR (which is a fact). This isn’t even an argument? I read it on twitter and was passing it along. You’re arguing with yourself.You made the statement that the committee bases the seeds by an average of kpi and SOR.
I said that isn't true, it is an average of that average ( called resume) and metrics. That's why on the team sheet, it lists the resume average and the metric average side by side.
You keep showing screenshots cutting off the metric average, I guess to bolster your argument you want to make. As if we can't see the team sheet ourselves.
Read this and get back to me.
Bracketology: Analyzing impact of metrics in NCAA Tournament selection, seeding — Heat Check CBB
Bracketology season is on the horizon. Which metrics warrant major attention and how does the committee evaluate the different types?
