Memphis v. Ok State
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Marcus Smart is really good. Pastner is being badly out coached though. If you told me Memphis is a senior dominated guard team, I would have said no way.
There is a reason Memphis averaged 27 wins per season under Pastner, yet he has never beaten a top 25 team. They were never tested in CUSA. That will change in the AAC, but is Pastner up to the job?
There is a reason Memphis averaged 27 wins per season under Pastner, yet he has never beaten a top 25 team. They were never tested in CUSA. That will change in the AAC, but is Pastner up to the job?
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right now I don't have much to counter with...we do look REALLY bad.
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I agree CUSA was a lot of the problem...these guys were accustomed to playing nobodies...getting 30 wins...and making the tourney...I guess I expected growing pains.
Just wait until we lose a few conference games...our fans aren't used to it...we won't know what to do, lol
Just wait until we lose a few conference games...our fans aren't used to it...we won't know what to do, lol
Memphis does have some very good talent and maybe Pastner can pull it together. Talent alone should win will be difficult to beat say UL.
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Pastner's teams do play street ball. They must have turned the ball over on fastbreaks at least 5 times. Missed free throws, quick shots in the clock. What does Pastner do during practice? Scrimmage for 2 hours? Dunk contests?
I don't think people on this board are ready for what a massive drop in competition UConn is experiencing. UConn will need to win 23+ to even think about an at-large with this schedule.
Now how are we going to develop a bitter conference rivalry if you keep making good-natured posts like this! I'm sure you know the growing pains will help you in the long run. For some reason I've always liked Memphis. Probably because that '85 team was in my formative basketball years and you couldn't help liking a team with a guy named Baskerville Holmes.
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really eyeing him vs hanlan. If he's superb in the bc game, I believe we have the real deal on our hands folks.
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Smart has everyone going gaga and deservedly so, he's killing. Goodman, Fraschilla, Rothstein, Dauster are just a few of the people in the house for the 2k Classic, Bazz needs to ball out and make his statement now.
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There aren't many coaches who can make Gottfried look competent, but Pastner is on that short list.
Maybe, but the statement needs to be keeping on doing what he's been doing, not scoring 40 like Smart. As Breezy just posted, Bazz has a base with Bilas and that goes a long way. Best thing for him is to keep being Mr. Everything legit point guard and for the team to keep winning. He has enough love already to get where he wants to be by the end of the year if we keep winning and emerge as a major factor in the national scene. As Calhoun famously said, the team's success is what lets the individual players achieve their personal goals. Just win, baby.
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I really don't care who is "balling out" whether it's Deandre or Omar or Niels or Boatright or Shabazz. None of our players should feel the need to "ball out" to impress talking heads or make a statement. Shabazz has done a great job this year of controlling the game without forcing anything and I hope that most of all is what he does Thursday and Friday.
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I didn't say anything about scoring 40, just continue on his with overall excellence like he's been doing.
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You guys read way too much into stuff, good Lord, loosen up.
I hear you, not trying to criticize. Just saying the hype he needs is already in place so long as the team keeps winning.
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Oklahoma State looked really good. The four teams that played in the Champions Classic last Tuesday looked like the four best in the country to me, but Oklahoma State placed themselves in that discussion with their performance tonight IMO.
As for Memphis, yikes. Even in a humiliating loss, you can see the incredible athleticism on display, and if they ever get it together, they could be a top ten team. Pastner has a lot of work to do - tonight he looked overwhelmed on the sidelines.
As for Memphis, yikes. Even in a humiliating loss, you can see the incredible athleticism on display, and if they ever get it together, they could be a top ten team. Pastner has a lot of work to do - tonight he looked overwhelmed on the sidelines.
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OK St is a legit team. That being said, I still think we have the best guard in the Country. What Shabazz has been doing is spectacular. He is shooting at a high percentage and instead of showing how he can dominate lesser competition, he's showing how he makes his team better. Fills the holes by rebounding and distributing. He is showing himself to not just be a top point guard, but a leader. This team will follow him wherever he wants to take them. His play may even be better than Kemba's in '11. He's scoring intelligently and the rebounding, this team's biggest weakness, has been spectacular every game. I don't understand how a 6'1" guard can do what he's doing night in and night out.
When OK St gets to the Tourney, can they go the distance? Maybe, but I'd bet on a Shabazz led team over a Smart led team any day. Shabazz already has the ring and the know-how to cope with the hype. I think Kemba's Final Four run as a Freshman gave him the poise to lead his team to the promised land. The other teams will have to out-will Shabazz to win - not easy. JC could simply will his team to win and Shabazz has that same mental toughness, as did Kemba and KO.
I think we can take anybody with Shabazz healthy and I'd take his leadership over Smart's athleticism anyday.
When OK St gets to the Tourney, can they go the distance? Maybe, but I'd bet on a Shabazz led team over a Smart led team any day. Shabazz already has the ring and the know-how to cope with the hype. I think Kemba's Final Four run as a Freshman gave him the poise to lead his team to the promised land. The other teams will have to out-will Shabazz to win - not easy. JC could simply will his team to win and Shabazz has that same mental toughness, as did Kemba and KO.
I think we can take anybody with Shabazz healthy and I'd take his leadership over Smart's athleticism anyday.
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No need to justify Bazz. Bazz is not M-Smart and M-Smart is not Bazz. Right now Smart is one of the best point guards in the nation, proven against top Memphis guards. Bazz will get his chance as the season is still young.
By the way from what I saw Smart looks like Bazz/Boat combined.
By the way from what I saw Smart looks like Bazz/Boat combined.
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I was with one of my national account sales guys last year and he is a huge Memphis fan/grad.......there's a sense already that Pastner can recruit, can't coach a lick and may never win a big game while there. I know Smart is good but you have to be dumb to allow him to get 24 that quickly! And he recruits kids who love to pay street ball on offense and there is no chemistry it would seem. Definitely a talented crew who will be a handful on given nights so let's not sell the talent short, it's there.
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UConn needs to really upgrade its OOC schedule if Memphis is the best in-conference opponent we have. When there are only 3 credible conference opponents, and one of them has a down year like Temple is having, the SOS is going to be gruesome. Luckily we still have one more year of Louisville. South Florida will go from 3-15 in the OBE last year to probably around .500 in conference.
We are going to be sitting there on Selection Sundays in the future with a 26-5 record and hoping to avoid a 6 seed because UConn will only have 6 games against Top 50 opponents.
We are going to be sitting there on Selection Sundays in the future with a 26-5 record and hoping to avoid a 6 seed because UConn will only have 6 games against Top 50 opponents.
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While Pastner isn't great I think we need to temper our sudden thoughts of how bad Memphis will be. If you don't think our Huskies will throw a stinker like that somewhere this year I think we're all sadly mistaken.......it happens and let's see a little more of the Tigers. They are certainly a talented crew and I doubt we'll think of them as the eventual reason to upgrade our OOC schedule......Ok St/Home and they were pumped up - happens!
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