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Memphis Postgame Thread

OK, I agree with all posters, re: half court offense.
But there's one more point....
I've refused to dump/blame one player especially Kyla, who tries so hard
and knows the schemes.

But this team cannot be first-class with Kyla Irwin starting.
She just isn't athletic enough...
Better to work Audrey in and take your lumps with her frosh mistakes.
Or start Anna with Audrey first in...Kyla could return to a more extended version of her previous role.

Lots of teams now have quick, athletic types; we're a bit limited in this regard.
Now you want to see a team, really struggling in that Dept., it's ND

I though we did a reasonable impersonation of them last evening.
 
I sit on my couch and in my mind I think "this" is the game where everything is going to fall into place. We are going to go up early, play great defense, make layups, have the bench players score ( I'd settle for taking shots) to make a difference. Instead, the game is exactly the same.........standing around, hesitation, turnovers, etc. It's like Ground Hog Day over and over again. Sorry, I love our team. Just had to vent. I will be attending the UCF game and cheering them on. Go Huskies!
 
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Holy Canolis, the fact that some are blaming players like Kyla et al for what they are viewing blows my mind. What you should be asking if you think so highly of other players, is why they cannot get on the court, remember play time is earned. Geno playing who he is should also not be an excuse for other starters not doing what they are supposed to do. Each is responsible for their own effort for starters.
 
DefenseBB said:
Well this Memphis team had a #156 Massey rating and a so-so schedule at #139 coming into this game, so yes, based on how our offense usually clicks we could rightly match our domination like over Houston who happened to beat Memphis by 10 a week and half ago.
That said, Memphis played arguably their best game of the year and their best game ever against us. So despite an 0-4 record, Memphis has now played 4 of the top 6 teams in our conference this far so the record was a tad underrated.
Why is it other teams are allowed to struggle against familiar foes and win but it we do, the world is crashing in on the program? It’s one game, on the road over a long break without classes and regular structure. Thankfully classes start again next week and hopefully the board is less worried.
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Just goes to show how good these computer based rating systems are and how many people defend them. I guess because sometimes they work but let's always remember, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
 
FanHam said:
Olivia should watch tapes of Kara Wolters. Kara knew how important it is for a tall player to KEEP THE BALL UP HIGH so defenders, however short, cannot reach in for it.

I don't care how strong she gets over the summer or over the next two years, if she keeps lowering the ball to her waist every time she begins a move, opposing players will always be able to tie her up or knock the ball loose.
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I’ve made the same point numerous times, but I think the mods get justifiably exercised if one harps on the same point repeatedly. Olivia has never learned, and maybe has never been taught, to use her size effectively when shooting. She never carries the ball to the rim above head level, and therefore is considerably less of a threat than she could otherwise be, and either gets tied up or commits turnovers as a result. This mystifies me...isn’t CD in control of post play?
 
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Were they talking about Crystal (runt?)

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Bigpetunia said:
I’ve made the same point numerous times, but I think the mods get justifiably exercised if one harps on the same point repeatedly. Olivia has never learned, and maybe has never been taught, to use her size effectively when shooting. She never carries the ball to the rim above head level, and therefore is considerably less of a threat than she could otherwise be, and either gets tied up or commits turnovers as a result. This mystifies me...isn’t CD in control of post play?
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It takes time to break bad habits. Flash back to Nat. After a redshirt year, during her first year of eligibility, it would drive me crazy when 6’5” Natalie Butler would get a rebound and bring it down to her waist, where smaller defenders would either strip the ball or tie her up. And unlike Liv, Nat was one of the stronger players on the team.

CD worked with her and by her 2nd year of eligibility she never brought the ball down and was far more effective. It just takes time.
 
The only analogy I can think of is when you are taking a long, long car ride. At first you are excited, pointing out everything new, looking forward to a new place to stop or eat. About midway through the trip everything looks the same, your temperament is starting to wane and all you can thing of is "OMIGOD, another three hundred miles. Then, as you can see the journeys end you feel a burden lifting and can even smile and start laughing again. And we, my friends, are in the middle of the ride.
 
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Plebe said:
I feel like this game was a magnification of the problems seen in the underwhelming early-season wins against teams like Cal and Vanderbilt. Just a complete lack of movement and continuity on offense. The progress made since then seemed to completely vanish in tonight's game. Baffling, as you say
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Totally agree. It is as if they step into a vat of some substance that slows them to a crawl. They move slowly, if at all, and the other team simply outplays them at every turn.
But make no mistake. This is a not-bad-at-all Memphis team. If that big center with the impossible name gets better and one of their shooters gets consistent, they will be really fun to watch.
 
Look for ONO to have a wonderful game against UCF in the next one, because UCF has a couple of 6'3" players, neither of whom should cause major problems. She'll do well, blocking shots like a banshee, dropping that jump shot in, doing all those wonderful things, and there will be people who proclaim her cured. I wish that were the case.She needs bulk, strength and taking to hear a couple of lessons in fundamentals. I really like what she's done so far, but she is not ready to mix it up with big bigs like Lauren Cox. I sure hope that'll come by next year.
 
tomcat said:
Look for ONO to have a wonderful game against UCF in the next one, because UCF has a couple of 6'3" players, neither of whom should cause major problems. She'll do well, blocking shots like a banshee, dropping that jump shot in, doing all those wonderful things, and there will be people who proclaim her cured. I wish that were the case.She needs bulk, strength and taking to hear a couple of lessons in fundamentals. I really like what she's done so far, but she is not ready to mix it up with big bigs like Lauren Cox. I sure hope that'll come by next year.
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Doubt ONO will ever gain bulk but totally agree that she will continue to need more coaching on fundamentals. My personal desire is for her to maximize her current skills - blocking shots (without slapping at ball), rebounding (getting position and keeping it), and making shots around the basket (keeping the ball high on layups). If she does these things, we have a potential All American.
 
Everything is relative. I guarantee you that on most other teams there is not a deep division in talent between the starters and the reserves so it makes it easier for a coach to utilize the younger players. That is not usually the case at Uconn and this year it becomes more problematic.
 
tomcat said:
Look for ONO to have a wonderful game against UCF in the next one, because UCF has a couple of 6'3" players, neither of whom should cause major problems. She'll do well, blocking shots like a banshee, dropping that jump shot in, doing all those wonderful things, and there will be people who proclaim her cured. I wish that were the case.She needs bulk, strength and taking to hear a couple of lessons in fundamentals. I really like what she's done so far, but she is not ready to mix it up with big bigs like Lauren Cox. I sure hope that'll come by next year.
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I seem to remember UCF’s bigs as actually big and tough. I HOPE ONO has a good game.
 
My most recent concern is that the offensive stategy seems to be heavily tilted to getting liv going in the low block very early in the game so the offense slows down waiting to deliver a pass into the post which was not set up well by movement, crossers around the box etc. And then often a rushed contested move. Was she discouraged in going for her fadeaway jumper which I think is a beautiful shot and one she has alot of confidence in. :confused:

And then the next option often seems to be a long long range 3 from crystal.


Hoping for more movement and more creative ways to get liv involved
 
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