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Rumrunner said:
So because there may only be 15-18-20 recruits in the 2014 class, this impacts not having any recruits how? If Pasqualoni got a 4* kid to sign tomorrow, would you be saying, "darn, he's oversigning?" There are ZERO recruits. None, zip, on par again with the dregs of BCS, slightly behind nonBCS teams. Would you like me to list the kids that UConn offered that decided to sign with another team?
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I have to agree with Gioff, all of this matters none because its MAY and its all about Feb 1st of next year. But to the history and your points. UCONN has rarely seen any recruits commit this early in the past to them. Maybe a few ever. The fact that we have few spots available means we aren't offering those reaches that typically are the earliest commits. And to your point of 15-18-20.........18 and 20 are almost assuredly not happening and even 15 is pushing it. And of those 15 we may already have anywhere from 4-6 already committed from JUCO and Prep......As well 2 will most likely be Special team kickers. So if you wanna keep bitching about not having a Punter wrapped up and committed by mid-may then so be it. Check out the numbers if you want I ran them all in the thread "Lots of smoke no fire"........I'm sure you won't be the only one but check into the reality of this year and stop comparing us to other teams or our other years recruiting classes cause they aren't comparable...
 
Does anything think that P has expectations of actually coaching these recruits in a game? It would mean at least 3 more years as HC. Sell the school, not the coach.

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I am sure he is convinced he will, yes. But that's different than what a recruit should be thinking of - how many coaches across the country will be in their seats in 5-6 years, when these recruits/kids are seniors? Thery need to pick a place where they feel they will be comfortable and succesful - athletically and academically.
 
Rumrunner said:
So because there may only be 15-18-20 recruits in the 2014 class, this impacts not having any recruits how? If Pasqualoni got a 4* kid to sign tomorrow, would you be saying, "darn, he's oversigning?" There are ZERO recruits. None, zip, on par again with the dregs of BCS, slightly behind nonBCS teams. Would you like me to list the kids that UConn offered that decided to sign with another team?
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As much as I would love P gone, this is just not a relevant criticism. Worrying about # of recruits now is like worrying about who is winning a football game five minutes in. It just doesn't tell you much yet.

If you need to worry and criticize for early, partial results, at least wait until late July when you know who committed after the camps.
 
Rumrunner said:
Recruiting has only begun, but it has begun. It would be nice to get a running start. A lot of the camp kids get their first look at the staff and the facilities, and that seems to sway things. However, some juice in recruiting would be nice.
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It would be "nice" if Kerry Washington were paying you to satisfy her sexual needs. And yet, you are smart enough not to waste bandwidth bitching that she isn't.
 
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We've truly entered the bizarro world where recruiting is unimportant.

Of course, to keep me somewhat grounded, I'm reminded that for every UConn there is a Kentucky. Over there they seem to be awfully excited about a big turnaround in recruiting. Those Kentucky idiots think that excitement, energy, momentum, buzz, whatever you want to call it, matter. Instead, while kids get taken off the board day by day, the world is clueless to UConn's super secret plan, one which no top 50 football team employs. PP's approach is pure genius!
 
Rumrunner said:
We've truly entered the bizarro world where recruiting is unimportant.

Of course, to keep me somewhat grounded, I'm reminded that for every UConn there is a Kentucky. Over there they seem to be awfully excited about a big turnaround in recruiting. Those Kentucky idiots think that excitement, energy, momentum, buzz, whatever you want to call it, matter. Instead, while kids get taken off the board day by day, the world is clueless to UConn's super secret plan, one which no top 50 football team employs. PP's approach is pure genius!
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Nobody is saying recruiting is unimportant (nice strawman), the point some are trying to make is that your criticism of the 2014 recruiting class in May of 2013 is asinine, stupid, and moronic. When you subtract the players already committed to 2014 (Fuch's, the DB from PA, and maybe the JUCO kids) we have about 12 - 15 scholarships (max) in 2014.

And lets not forget that all commitments are meaningless until signing day in Feb, at this time last year people were criticizing P for not landing Boyle.
 
Uconn needs to step it up in football, having zero commits at this date may be ok, but it sure is not step it up "good".
 
rich1122 said:
We have 11 spots next year including Hypolite's spot. We are in a rush to take on recruits why?

Sort by year.

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/conn-m-footbl-mtt.html
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Not claiming to be a recruiting guru, but the best regional players are getting wrapped up by other teams. That seems to be a pretty good why.

If your class is small, shouldn't you want it to be particularly impactful? To that end, identifying and working your top choices hard and getting them to commit early should be a priority. Hell, the sales pitch is probably easier with a small class. Tell them they need to commit or you will gave that precious spot to someone else that understands how important it is.
 
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06029 said:
Not claiming to be a recruiting guru, but the best regional players are getting wrapped up by other teams. That seems to be a pretty good why.

If your class is small, shouldn't you want it to be particularly impactful? To that end, identifying and working your top choices hard and getting them to commit early should be a priority. Hell, the sales pitch is probably easier with a small class. Tell them they need to commit or you will gave that precious spot to someone else that understands how important it is.
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There are thousands of prospects......We need 11..........and 2 are Kick squad...........we will be fine if we pick up 9 guys in November............. enough years of keeping up with recruiting has taught me to take these early commits with cautious grain of salt anyways. Thought to ponder: what if we didn't have a scholarship open because we had accepted too many last year when Tim Boyle starting looking around? Everything will be plenty fine.

Small recruiting class usually don't help in recruiting as you can throw the early playing time card out the door seeing as you have a great amount of upperclassmen.
 
I will wager any amount of money with any poster interested......we will have more than 11 kids sign in Feb 2014.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I will wager any amount of money with any poster interested......we will have more than 11 kids sign in Feb 2014.
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wow you got some big balls....congrats your pockets must be soooo deep......

there will be no more than 15 max.....big deal if there is more than 11....point is its a very small class...
 
kcc1442 said:
wow you got some big balls....congrats your pockets must be soooo deep......

there will be no more than 15 max.....big deal if there is more than 11....point is its a very small class...
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Wanna bet it will be more than 15?
 
As much as I would love to entertain that....And if you were standing right next to me I'd take your money in a heartbeat .......However, my mind tells me an idiot makes wagers on random blogs with random people that I will probably never see the money from.......(not that I think you're that type of person) But I see a no win situation in this bet.......
 
Jason Sylva MLB now listed as a "soft verbal". By my count we now have three 2014 commits, Fuchs, Sylva and Jalan Branford and it's still only May. Not sure what Rennick Bryan's situation is at Dean but hopefully he is still on schedule to return to UCONN next year.
 
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At this time of year we usually have one, perhaps two, recruits. What until camp.
 
Camps are coming in a couple days. We have 15 slots to fill. We need a punter but we have BP and 2 w/o kickers so I think we can wait on a fg kicker now.

Sylvia, Bryan and Cunningham went Juno. Branford, Fuchs and possibly 3-5 more will be in prep school this fall instead of uconn or on campus buy gray shirts. We have to wait until we get a roster on the 24th I think it is. We could have as many as 8 commits in 2014 or as little as 2. We shall see in time.

My beef is we still need to fill 7+ slots so why not fill them!?!? The dazzler is running around New England doing circles on us. I get that we took our first 125 ships and handed them out to elite plYers but we haven't landed 1 of them. And of that I only feel in good shape with 2. Newsome is one. The other is a do from no who is at sj joes I think now. But I haven't seen news on him in a while.

There are other factors. Don brown went to bc and decided he was going to use our chart basically and plow roads. He didn't do that here because he knew he was never staying with p and gdl. He knew what was up before it was up and just used uconn to land on his feet quick when needed. Kids like yiadom and Cohen were our scoops for a couple years camp/recruiting wise and he cleaned house quick with them. P and gdl even worse just watched this past 6 months. What else at this point would you expect. That's why it's frustrating. I would have loved to land 5 New England kids already and then waited till the 24th and cap to see where we sit. But p and gdl didn't do that. They would rather play 90s recruiting games and kids and coaches see thru that.

Is there a ol in Florida that's better tan John baker? Sure. But who should u focus on? What dazzler has proved is that if you put a average to above average recruiter n New England you can get kids to bite and bite quick now take that and add a top practice facility and a fan base that gives a *. See where I'm going?

I feel good about dintino and a ct qb also fwiw. But who knows, dazzler could offer both 2moro and land them as far as what I have seen this past 6 months. If you think warde is going to make the right hire in December I have news for u. Just look at puck. He made a quality hire but not the splash. Same story continues. When your a big boy you can be quality. When your a rising star you need splash.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
Camps are coming in a couple days. We have 15 slots to fill. We need a punter but we have BP and 2 w/o kickers so I think we can wait on a fg kicker now.

Sylvia, Bryan and Cunningham went Juno. Branford, Fuchs and possibly 3-5 more will be in prep school this fall instead of uconn or on campus buy gray shirts. We have to wait until we get a roster on the 24th I think it is. We could have as many as 8 commits in 2014 or as little as 2. We shall see in time.

My beef is we still need to fill 7+ slots so why not fill them!?!? The dazzler is running around New England doing circles on us. I get that we took our first 125 ships and handed them out to elite plYers but we haven't landed 1 of them. And of that I only feel in good shape with 2. Newsome is one. The other is a do from no who is at sj joes I think now. But I haven't seen news on him in a while.

There are other factors. Don brown went to bc and decided he was going to use our chart basically and plow roads. He didn't do that here because he knew he was never staying with p and gdl. He knew what was up before it was up and just used uconn to land on his feet quick when needed. Kids like yiadom and Cohen were our scoops for a couple years camp/recruiting wise and he cleaned house quick with them. P and gdl even worse just watched this past 6 months. What else at this point would you expect. That's why it's frustrating. I would have loved to land 5 New England kids already and then waited till the 24th and cap to see where we sit. But p and gdl didn't do that. They would rather play 90s recruiting games and kids and coaches see thru that.

Is there a ol in Florida that's better tan John baker? Sure. But who should u focus on? What dazzler has proved is that if you put a average to above average recruiter n New England you can get kids to bite and bite quick now take that and add a top practice facility and a fan base that gives a . See where I'm going?

I feel good about dintino and a ct qb also fwiw. But who knows, dazzler could offer both 2moro and land them as far as what I have seen this past 6 months. If you think warde is going to make the right hire in December I have news for u. Just look at puck. He made a quality hire but not the splash. Same story continues. When your a big boy you can be quality. When your a rising star you need splash.
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First, it's good to have you back. Add that to the list of things I thought I'd never say.

Second, is it even possible to make a "big splash hire" in the world of college hockey? Short of resurrecting Herb Brooks, who would be considered a big splash hire?
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
First, it's good to have you back. Add that to the list of things I thought I'd never say.

Second, is it even possible to make a "big splash hire" in the world of college hockey? Short of resurrecting Herb Brooks, who would be considered a big splash hire?
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I didn't think a splash hire was possible in puck either. But when the Denver coach shows up u have to lock him up. That's a rare splash. The hire we made was a good quality one. No rip. but a splash makes a splash and right now in the CR world a splash of any size is worth more than no splash. We're going to HE with solid potential. I would have liked to walk in with solid potential and a splash.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Second, is it even possible to make a "big splash hire" in the world of college hockey? Short of resurrecting Herb Brooks, who would be considered a big splash hire?
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Fired DU Coach George Gwozdecky would have ben considered a "splash". He ran a very successful program and won two NC there in 2004/2005 there and DU has been a consistent Frozen Four participant. Problem was that by most all accounts - he wouldn't commit to a longer term (> 3 years) deal. Which means you'd be changing coaches after your second year in HE. Hockey coaches don't turn over like BB/FB.
 
huskymedic said:
Fired DU Coach George Gwozdecky would have ben considered a "splash". He ran a very successful program and won two NC there in 2004/2005 there and DU has been a consistent Frozen Four participant. Problem was that by most all accounts - he wouldn't commit to a longer term (> 3 years) deal. Which means you'd be changing coaches after your second year in HE. Hockey coaches don't turn over like BB/FB.
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I'll take your word for it. I never heard of the guy. Which almost proves my point.
 
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You can scratch Cunningham off anyones list, apparently he isn't receiving interest from any school according to TOS

Also, this is the first recruiting year where we have the conference realignment really hanging over our heads. Before the Big East had a bad reputation, but at least there was some hope that we might get picked up into a better conference and the coaches most likely fed the kids that. Now we are in the AAC for the forseeable future and that is not desirable for most recruits by any means. Every article I have read on potential commits a quote about UConns conference has come up.

It's going to be an uphill battle, frankly I would have truly impressed if PP and staff could have landed any recruits considering the horrendous offseason. Now the only thing we can rely on is SOS and winning....if get off to a good start to the season, kids will start to look our way....until then it goes back to the old saying, "patience is a virtue"
 
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uconnflyer88 said:
You can scratch Cunningham off anyones list, apparently he isn't receiving interest from any school according to TOS

Also, this is the first recruiting year where we have the conference realignment really hanging over our heads. Before the Big East had a bad reputation, but at least there was some hope that we might get picked up into a better conference and the coaches most likely fed the kids that. Now we are in the AAC for the forseeable future and that is not desirable for most recruits by any means. Every article I have read on potential commits a quote about UConns conference has come up.

It's going to be an uphill battle, frankly I would have truly impressed if PP and staff could have landed any recruits considering the horrendous offseason. Now the only thing we can rely on is SOS and winning....if get off to a good start to the season, kids will start to look our way....until then it goes back to the old saying, "patience is a virtue"
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Interesting. So a reach we made back then who then had to go juco isn't panning out. Bummer but that's a open slot and another reason why we should have landed kids to date.

More importantly look at other school in the aac. Especially temple and the commits they have quality wise. Now tell me why we have nothing and they have quality.
 
Fair point about Temple.

I think it could be any number of reasons.

PP has been in the HC gig for a couple years now and hasn't produced results where Temple has just had a coaching change and that always causes excitement around the program.

I think UConn and Temple are in different situations when it comes to the AAC. The AAC is probably the best Temple is going to do for a long time, it is a step up to where they were two or three years ago. The AAC is a step down for UConn especially considering the success in other sports and most people believe that they should have been picked for the ACC instead of Louisville. Like it or not, auras like that can effect peoples view of your university.

Also, the 4 star that Temple has as well as the higher three star are from Philly and well thats where Temple is. And that 4 star OL just received offers from Mich St, Wisconsin and GT with Florida and Stanford showing interest only recently.....yeah he ain't staying committed to Temple much longer.

All in all I think PP now producing winning seasons has hurt us just as much, but kids are willing to overlook that if the school plays a hard schedule in a good conference. Temple has the edge just because of the excitement of the coaching change. If Addazio was still there, no way they have those commits right now.
 
What's the point about complaining about no commits in may 9 months before signing day. News flash, the roster is overloaded with underclassmen, and there are 20 plus recruits coming in a few weeks. This board just loves to complain about any and everything with or without cause.

There is no cause for concern. As it stands right now, the roster needs to be trimmed down just for the recruits that are coming next month. There is always a manufactured crisis with the posters on the boneyard.
 
huskynation said:
What's the point about complaining about no commits in may 9 months before signing day. News flash, the roster is overloaded with underclassmen, and there are 20 plus recruits coming in a few weeks. This board just loves to complain about any and everything with or without cause.

There is no cause for concern. As it stands right now, the roster needs to be trimmed down just for the recruits that are coming next month. There is always a manufactured crisis with the posters on the boneyard.
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We are getting beat for guys locally and not offering kids who are getting offers. Why does Phillips have a Cuse offer? Why did we miss the boat on outlow? And so on. It's how things are going down. If you don't care until signing day then don't read until then. We're getting bent up on the trail. Of all ppl here u think I want to say that? I breath trail and that was what I grasped with p and gdl. It's going south. You let me know when u think its a good idea for us to be offering top kids in Alabama instead of focusing on winnable northeast kids. That's what p is doing right now.
 
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