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Materials submitted to Big12 released by Uconn

Posted this in key tweets put should put it here too. This was in one of the PDFs posted. Food for thought.

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whaler11 said:
The NHL had revenues of 2.9 BILLION dollars last year.

Not bad if no one cares.
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Scarcasm, but the truth of the matter is, hockey is beginning to die.
 
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History Geek said:
I am convinced that if we were located in the Midwest we'd be in. Location was the reason we could not get 8 votes in the end. Others could not get 8 votes for other reasons.
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If UConn was located in Fairfield County, UConn would be in the ACC or B1G now. All well, can't change the past.
 
millertime7774 said:
Right there in black and white on Page 19...

iii. Willingness to consider a football-only membership and competitive plans for other sports programs in that scenario.

UConn would accept football-only membership, and subsequently would pursue membership in the Big East Conference for other sponsored sports currently competing in the American Athletic Conference (AAC).
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They wouldn't have made this statement unless the Big East actually agreed to us returning in all sports but football. That statement surprised me .
I figured men's soccer was a given but BB ,wow!
This and the increases in subsidy budgeted were the most astounding revelation.
Great presentation
 
jibsey said:
An impressive package no doubt and we had basketball accomplishments that the others couldn't show. With all of this the rumor I read was we were middle of the pack among the teams considered. First is that likely true and second if so is the reason strictly football?
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From my conversation with Benedict it became clear it was location that really hurt us. But read between the lines here. They chose NO ONE. They were enticed to do so by ESPN. If they had decided to expand, no one can say who they would have taken.
 
jibsey said:
An impressive package no doubt and we had basketball accomplishments that the others couldn't show. With all of this the rumor I read was we were middle of the pack among the teams considered. First is that likely true and second if so is the reason strictly football?
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There was no pack.

UConn's issue with the Big 12 would have been geography (culture).

There are places less similar to Connecticut than Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas but not many.
 
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jibsey said:
With all of this the rumor I read was we were middle of the pack among the teams considered.
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Link?

I do a bunch of reading and didn't see any legitimate source w/ rankings post announcement. Curious now because all the noise/general consensus ahead of today was top 3-4.

The Company line was there was no discussion of candidates or voting on candidates.
 
shizzle787 said:
NFL is directly related to Kaepernick thing. Ages 15-24 the viewership is down, but that doesn't correlate to a 14% decrease; that would belong to Kaepernick for the most part.
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This is literally the dumbest take I've ever read.

Do you have like a dart board with bad takes where you create terrible takes by throwing darts and combining the takes where they land.

Throw one: NFL Ratings Decline

Throw two: Millenials

Throw three: Kaepernick.

Ohhhh this is gonna be a good one!
 
NYUConn said:
This is literally the dumbest take I've ever read.

Do you have like a dart board with bad takes where you create terrible takes by throwing darts and combining the takes where they land.

Throw one: NFL Ratings Decline

Throw two: Millenials

Throw three: Kaepernick.

Ohhhh this is gonna be a good one!
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Wait til you read his cesspool garbage!
 
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jibsey said:
An impressive package no doubt and we had basketball accomplishments that the others couldn't show. With all of this the rumor I read was we were middle of the pack among the teams considered. First is that likely true and second if so is the reason strictly football?
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Well, in that case, no wonder FOX and ESPN through a fit. The clowns south of dixie could not pick the winner of a one horse race, and there is no way the media companies where gonna pay more for a diluted product headlined by fCan Houstan.
 
shizzle787 said:
Scarcasm, but the truth of the matter is, hockey is beginning to die.
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This is provably false by numerous metrics, not the least of which are attendance numbers across the sport, which partially includes UConn's Hockey East attendance numbers.

Har har to anyone who has followed my UConn hockey attendance posts in the hockey forum.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
This is provably false by numerous metrics, not the least of which are attendance numbers across the sport, which partially includes UConn's Hockey East attendance numbers.

Har har to anyone who has followed my UConn hockey attendance posts in the hockey forum.
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In the debate over hockey's death.. it seems like 3 billion dollars in NHL revenue is more important than UConn's attendance... ;)
 
CTMike said:
Hey @Dooley I don't know if you had an affect or not but there sure was a lot of Dooley in those presentations. Good on ya.
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LOL - rest assured that I had absolutely zero input on any of these presentations...and that's a good thing. My graphic design skills are not even beginner level.
 
First and foremost, that all looks really good and does a great job of illustrating what we offer. Couple of points.

1) In one of the letters discussing acceptance to the Big East it goes on to say we then accomplished winning 3 National Titles in basketball as a member of that league, but there was no "and then as a member of the American we won another". It was covered in the graphics just thought it was strange to undersell ourselves. Obviously most local sports fans know we're in the American, but you'd be shocked at fans of the bigger leagues simply have paid no mind to this nonesense.

2) I would have highlighted the impressive victories we've had over the years citing specific teams, but they did cover that with the P5 'wins'.

3) I would have emphasized as @upstater mentioned our impact on the SNY carriage in CT.

4) Separately how can you let Trangheses send the email out with an error as glaring as the West Virginia "road" victory. It was as others mentioned, a home win vs WV earlier and then a road win at USF.

5) Wonder if they had further information regarding $ impact of our travel compared to say a Cincinnati or whoever.

Again, kind of nitpicking, but they did a nice job.
 
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junglehusky said:
I think there's only one group of schools that walked away from the revenue of high level college athletics willingly. That was the Ivy League, whose graduates run the Supreme Court, the Federal Reserve, the White House, and can raise more alumni donations in a lazy afternoon than most schools can raise in a year.
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Perhaps. But others like Rice and Tulane once played with the big boys. I do think there is a bubble, and these dollars won't be available for long. When it comes crashing down, I wouldn't be shocked to see like minded institutions coming together and forming new leagues.

We all talk about the money, but it's not much money. UConn's 70+M a year in revenue would make it a "small business". It's more at UT and Ohio State, but still under $200M I believe. Not really big numbers. The costs of operating these departments exceed the revenue at all but a handful of schools. There are maybe 10-15 that are revenue positive, even in this environment (maybe more soon with the B1G deal). It can't last forever.

If a group of near Ivy schools were to break off and form a league, I wouldn't be disappointed if UConn joined it. Unfortunately, it wouldn't likely be a regional league for us. The best candidates are Duke, Wake, Vandy, Rice, Tulane, Georgia Tech, Northwestern, BC...not sure who else. That would be prestigious company. It's why I'll never complain about being in a league with Tulane. It's the best school in the league.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Perhaps. But others like Rice and Tulane once played with the big boys. I do think there is a bubble, and these dollars won't be available for long. When it comes crashing down, I wouldn't be shocked to see like minded institutions coming together and forming new leagues.

We all talk about the money, but it's not much money. UConn's 70+M a year in revenue would make it a "small business". It's more at UT and Ohio State, but still under $200M I believe. Not really big numbers. The costs of operating these departments exceed the revenue at all but a handful of schools. There are maybe 10-15 that are revenue positive, even in this environment (maybe more soon with the B1G deal). It can't last forever.

If a group of near Ivy schools were to break off and form a league, I wouldn't be disappointed if UConn joined it. Unfortunately, it wouldn't likely be a regional league for us. The best candidates are Duke, Wake, Vandy, Rice, Tulane, Georgia Tech, Northwestern, BC...not sure who else. That would be prestigious company. It's why I'll never complain about being in a league with Tulane. It's the best school in the league.
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Georgia Tech also left the SEC over a pseudo academic issue back in the 60s, basically the school only let them have half as many scholarships as the rest of their conference mates had.

Unfortunately, I don't ever see an issue like that happening again.

Aside from the fact that athletics are a point of pride for a university regardless of academic standing, the massive TV deals that the BC's, Northwestern's and Wake's have are a major benefit for those schools as it's less resources they need to direct towards athletics, freeing up endowment and other donor money to continue investing in research, facilities and faculty - which in turn allows them to continue to be the best.

Those who are in our going to stay in unless forcibly removed (which is next to impossible).
 
NYUConn said:
Georgia Tech also left the SEC over a pseudo academic issue back in the 60s, basically the school only let them have half as many scholarships as the rest of their conference mates had.

Unfortunately, I don't ever see an issue like that happening again.

Aside from the fact that athletics are a point of pride for a university regardless of academic standing, the massive TV deals that the BC's, Northwestern's and Wake's have are a major benefit for those schools as it's less resources they need to direct towards athletics, freeing up endowment and other donor money to continue investing in research, facilities and faculty - which in turn allows them to continue to be the best.

Those who are in our going to stay in unless forcibly removed (which is next to impossible).
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20 years from now the money will be gone. Maybe sooner than that. The networks won't keep paying, and so these marriages of monetary convenience will fall apart.
 
whaler11 said:
In the debate over hockey's death.. it seems like 3 billion dollars in NHL revenue is more important than UConn's attendance... ;)
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Of course it is, as are a host of other things. I was just trying to veer the conversation at least a bit back towards things relevant to UConn.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The best candidates are Duke, Wake, Vandy, Rice, Tulane, Georgia Tech, Northwestern, BC..
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Of the schools you named, only Georgia Tech is a public. Our peers are Georgia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Maryland, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, Penn St, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio St, and Wisconsin. As long as we are coming up with hypothetical conferences, that's the one I'd like to join.

We can let Notre Dame join the conference you proposed. Those are their peers.
 
MattMang23 said:
Of the schools you named, only Georgia Tech is a public. Our peers are Georgia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Maryland, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, Penn St, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio St, and Wisconsin. As long as we are coming up with hypothetical conferences, that's the one I'd like to join.

We can let Notre Dame join the conference you proposed. Those are their peers.
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Understood, except Illinois and Wisconsin would be better replaced with Pitt and maybe Purdue geographically (or Syracuse and BC if you aren't eliminating all private schools). I was simply proposing that those high end FBS football playing privates could walk away at some point and form a league that would rival the Ivy league.
 
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